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:::If you're really that upset over an incident from ''months'' ago that didn't even involve you, then here goes: I'm sorry that I said something that, in the moment, was taken as far more extreme than it was intended. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again (after all, edit summaries can't be withdrawn after one rethinks), but as I'm sure you can see if you go to my user contributions, two incidents several months apart, out of hundreds of edits, does not an ongoing problem make. (Or do you have a problem with anything else I've said? If so, speak up. I'm glad to hear it.)
:::If you're really that upset over an incident from ''months'' ago that didn't even involve you, then here goes: I'm sorry that I said something that, in the moment, was taken as far more extreme than it was intended. I can't guarantee that it won't happen again (after all, edit summaries can't be withdrawn after one rethinks), but as I'm sure you can see if you go to my user contributions, two incidents several months apart, out of hundreds of edits, does not an ongoing problem make. (Or do you have a problem with anything else I've said? If so, speak up. I'm glad to hear it.)
:::I'm really trying my best to be civil and listen to what you have to say, but ''your'' tone is making it kind of hard (which is a bit ironic, as you're complaining about ''my'' tone.) If you're a Bulbapedia staff member, I retract everything I'm about to say and am gladly corrected, but since your profile gives no indication of that, I don't see why you think it's your place to (1) bring up an incident from several months ago that an admin has already reprimanded me for, (2) decide that your judgment of that incident's severity is more important than that admin's judgment, and (3) decide that you have the authority to (3a) demand regret, (3b) determine whether something is "an ongoing problem", especially when nobody has commented on it since the initial incident ''months'' ago, (3c) judge what kind of behavior is "unacceptable", (3d) speak on behalf of Bulbapedia as a whole, and (3e) tell someone not to say something because ''you'' think it's "superfluous". I don't know Bulbapedia's talk page policies very well, but on most forums, we call that mini-modding, and it's sternly disapproved of. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm really trying my best to be civil and listen to what you have to say, but ''your'' tone is making it kind of hard (which is a bit ironic, as you're complaining about ''my'' tone.) If you're a Bulbapedia staff member, I retract everything I'm about to say and am gladly corrected, but since your profile gives no indication of that, I don't see why you think it's your place to (1) bring up an incident from several months ago that an admin has already reprimanded me for, (2) decide that your judgment of that incident's severity is more important than that admin's judgment, and (3) decide that you have the authority to (3a) demand regret, (3b) determine whether something is "an ongoing problem", especially when nobody has commented on it since the initial incident ''months'' ago, (3c) judge what kind of behavior is "unacceptable", (3d) speak on behalf of Bulbapedia as a whole, and (3e) tell someone not to say something because ''you'' think it's "superfluous". I don't know Bulbapedia's talk page policies very well, but on most forums, we call that mini-modding, and it's sternly disapproved of. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::::It "was taken as" far more extreme? You really aren't listening. Surely your forum experience should tell you that hoping someone gnaws off their own foot and chokes on it isn't exactly polite discourse. It was taken much more lightly than it should have been, contrary to your opinion. It's been dealt with, however, and I have no business in it other than to remind you again that you cannot speak that way to anyone for any reason, even terrible grammar.
::::I have no tone; I'm trying to get it in your head how to behave around here. If you don't care at all what anyone other than an admin has to say, fine; it'll save me a lot of time while you keep on your course. My judgment of the incident is my entitled opinion and exists because it relates to a current incident: the tone of your summary. Here I am trying to help you not seem like a unpleasant person, and you say I'm directing the whole wiki. A wiki formed by fans of mostly equal status trying to create a comprehensive and formal database of the Pokémon franchise. I'm making suggestions to you for the greater good. That's all. I've repeated myself plenty—this is my last message, regardless of whether you've taken my advice or not. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] ([[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|talk]]) 23:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)