User talk:Force Fire/Archive 7: Difference between revisions

(By now you should know that Bulbapedia's policy is NO ASSUMPTIONS of ANY kind. It's neither professional nor accurate.)
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::Finally, don't take my repeated use of the word "''assume''" as basis for a counter argument, as I'll reiterate that assumptions about moves have been made more than they actually have been confirmed. If you're sticking to the argument where unconfirmed moves should be left undocumented, you have a lot of editing to do because these are only the latest in thousands of instances of a move that has not been named. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
::Finally, don't take my repeated use of the word "''assume''" as basis for a counter argument, as I'll reiterate that assumptions about moves have been made more than they actually have been confirmed. If you're sticking to the argument where unconfirmed moves should be left undocumented, you have a lot of editing to do because these are only the latest in thousands of instances of a move that has not been named. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
:::No assumptions. That's the Bulbapedia rule with ANY content. This is an Ash's Charizard gender debate all over again. We require CONCRETE, undeniable proof of anything around here. Otherwise we're not being professional and accurate. And FYI, Force Fire said on the Forums that he does not watch the anime as actively. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 16:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
:::No assumptions. That's the Bulbapedia rule with ANY content. This is an Ash's Charizard gender debate all over again. We require CONCRETE, undeniable proof of anything around here. Otherwise we're not being professional and accurate. And FYI, Force Fire said on the Forums that he does not watch the anime as actively. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 16:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
{{indent}}Yes, I do watch the anime, at least the important episodes (captures, gym battles, evolutions). We can only use precedence if the move in questions has a unique animation (like {{m|Vine Whip}} or {{m|Double Team}}, since they have unique animations). Slash shares its animation with other "claw" moves like {{m|Fury Swipes}} or {{m|Cut}}. Leaf Storm and Razor Wind didn't get documented because they could've been {{m|Razor Leaf}} or {{m|Air Cutter}}.
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Kenji-girl/Archive_21#Flamethrower_or_Overheat This was the only conversation about Reshiram's] move that I could find, and she didn't even give an answer. Yet, you added it in anyway, so I believe that you ''think'' she gave an answer, but she didn't. As for Power Whip, both Poison Jab and Power Whip have a unique animation in the anime (at least, so far) so that was correct.
Back to the topic, just because we haven't seen a Pokémon use False Swipe doesn't mean that the animators won't make a Pokémon use False Swipe. They can do whatever they want, thus we won't know and we won't assume we know. As for the Eeveelutions, they were fantasized as being used on a Showcase, so it could've been stylized versions of Flamethrower (Flareon), Thunderbolt (Jolteon), Random Water move that isn't really clear on what it was (Vaporeon) and Icicle Spear (Glaceon), may seem like a stretch, but still... showcase fantasy.
As for the other assumed moves, those were from a time before we had the "don't assume" rule. Whether we'll go through them, I don't know. May's Venusaur had to evolve because it's known that she had a Bulbasaur. It's not like Paul's Weavile where we don't know if he caught it as a Sneasel. You Pikachu example doesn't hold water as it's always been called Thunderbolt in both the Japanese and the English dub. Thunder having a "louder" sound doesn't amount to anything.
Again the assumed move of the past were from before we had the "don't assume" rule. And whether we'll go through them is up in the air.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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