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:We could just call it <tt>Base stats (species)</tt>, and have a {{template|samename}} on {{EV|the other base stats}}.,[[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]])</small> 02:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC) | :We could just call it <tt>Base stats (species)</tt>, and have a {{template|samename}} on {{EV|the other base stats}}.,[[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]])</small> 02:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
::I simply do not see it to be feasible to call two different things base stats concurrently. Yes, when purely considering the best names for the pages without the others, "base stats" definitely must be used for the thing previously known as EVs, and "base stats" would be the best name for the thing unofficially known as "base stats". However, it is not practical to refer to both as base stats concurrently, since within articles we will need to use both in the same sentence; for example, "A Pokémon's stats depend on its base stats, IVs, base stats (fan term), and Nature" is simply going to confuse readers. It is clear that the guidebooks do not have a definite term for the subject of this article, instead just trying to talk about it in terms of "growth rates" without giving it a specific name. The EVs page does need to be renamed, and as such, this page also needs to be renamed; the problem is that we don't have a definite title. Since ultimately we are going to have to coin a term (as much as we should avoid doing that whenever possible), I suggest we do a community poll to determine what we will call this stat element (at least until we get an official name). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:50, 4 April 2014 (UTC) | ::I simply do not see it to be feasible to call two different things base stats concurrently. Yes, when purely considering the best names for the pages without the others, "base stats" definitely must be used for the thing previously known as EVs, and "base stats" would be the best name for the thing unofficially known as "base stats". However, it is not practical to refer to both as base stats concurrently, since within articles we will need to use both in the same sentence; for example, "A Pokémon's stats depend on its base stats, IVs, base stats (fan term), and Nature" is simply going to confuse readers. It is clear that the guidebooks do not have a definite term for the subject of this article, instead just trying to talk about it in terms of "growth rates" without giving it a specific name. The EVs page does need to be renamed, and as such, this page also needs to be renamed; the problem is that we don't have a definite title. Since ultimately we are going to have to coin a term (as much as we should avoid doing that whenever possible), I suggest we do a community poll to determine what we will call this stat element (at least until we get an official name). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:50, 4 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::I see what you mean with the practical concerns; "Base Stats (fan term)" is even more clunky when used outside of a title. If we can get a consensus on what term to use, I suppose that would justify using a new name. I think that a disambiguation template, as Pikachu Bros. suggested, would be necessary on the new "Base stats" page if we do coin a term, as most searches for "base stats" will be for this page, not for EVs. [[User:Ninjask|Ninjask]] ([[User talk:Ninjask|talk]]) 15:41, 6 April 2014 (UTC) | |||