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Assuming that the CoroCoro scans are real, this could be moved from this page because of the in-game reverse world. '''RUCARIO''' http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/be/448MS.png 00:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Assuming that the CoroCoro scans are real, this could be moved from this page because of the in-game reverse world. '''RUCARIO''' 00:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


ILLEGAL SIG! ILLEGAL SIG!!!--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 01:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, Torn World and reverse world could be totally different--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 02:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
You're right, but isn't the Torn world supposed to be a reference to the reverse world?? {{U|Rucario64}} 14:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
That, my aura friend, is possibly probable--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 14:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 
The more I think about maybe it would it be possible for Dialga to travel to the Torn world also like in the movie. Probably not but it might happen I think. Then the Protaganast would have to go in the Torn world to capture it. That is what I think will happen. What is your oppinion? {{U|Rucario64}} 01:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I dunno now that I think of it more I doubt that will happen but who knows these days. [[User:Rucario64|&#91;&#91;User:Rucario64&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#120A8F;&quot;&gt;Rucario64&lt;/span&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;]] 02:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 
According to the movie summary at Serebii.net, the world was called the Torn World in the movie.  However, since that summary was a rough, quick job, and had a plethora of errors (switching between English and Japanese names on a whim, as well), to trust that it got it right would be a bit of a dubious move.  If anyone has a confirmation that the movie ACTUALLY says Reverse or Torn in the film (and I'm sure the translation of the words are not the same), then that would give evidence to move this article to join with the Torn World article.  However, we're probably not going to get any lasting proof of that until December, when the DVD comes out in Japan; and I seriously question whether Nintendo of America and PUSA will actually translate these places as Reverse World and Torn World when the movie hits the States and when Platinum comes out.  So for now, separate articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 13:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Merrick lies! As always! In the movie, the world is named {{tt|反転世界|はんてんせかい}} ''{{tt|Hanten Sekai|Inversed World}}'', while the in-game world is named {{tt|敗れた世界|やぶれたせかい}} ''Yabureta Sekai'', which also translated as "Reversed World". "Torn World" is not the best translation, made mainly to distinguish the two things. As the two names mean practically the same thing, they are still different words and diffrent names, which means that those two worlds are in fact two different things. Because different name = different thing, if they were going to feature the same world from games, they would also use the same name, wouldn't they? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Likely, but not always true...<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Pokemaniac102</span>]]</span> 14:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 
 
They're both the parallel dimension where Giratina resides with surreal architecture, I'm fairly sure it's safe to say that they're the same darn thing. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 04:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 
:Nope.  The official English name for the Torn World is now the [[Ruined World]].  The Reverse World (or Inversed World, as Maxim states), is quite different from the Torn World.  However, should the dub translate the Reverse World as the Ruined World, then that might be means to combine the articles.  However, the Ruined World is more like a warp in dimensions, while the Reverse World is like a complete alternate dimension.  I doubt now that they are the same place.  [[Gracidea (Sinnoh)|Glacidea]] is more similar to the [[Flower Paradise]] than the Reverse World to the Ruined World, and Glacidea can't be the Flower Paradise, because it's near [[Mt. Coronet]], rather than far north of the [[Pokémon League (Sinnoh)|Pokémon League]]. Separate articles.    [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 
::but they have to be the anime equivelent for them cus I doubt there going to make Torn World in the anime----------[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, if they are both named the Ruined World, then there probably will be two separate articles: "Ruined World (games)" and "Ruined World (anime)" [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])</sup> 17:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::According to [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]] (00:23:16), [[Mugen]] said that Reverse World is a Torn World(Japanese subbed やぶれた世界) where rules are broken. In Diamond and Pearl Pokédex, Giratina is said to be a Pokémon that live in a world on the reverse side of ours. --[[User:Swampert|Swampert]] 10:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Newton's Third Law of Motion ==
 
So, how is this correct?
"The connection also has a sensitivity that behaves accordingly to Newton's third law, the law of reciprocal actions: to every action there is always an opposite and equal reaction. Therefore, any actions that occur in the Pokémon world will also take effect in the Reverse World and vice versa."
 
Newton's third law of motion is indeed the law of reciprocal actions, but it applies only to forces in motion. Thus applying it to different worlds would not make sense. If A hits B with a force of 80N, B would exert a force of -80N on A, but something that happens in one world and the same thing happening in another is completely different. [[User:Ultradude2k|Ultradude2k]] 07:49, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== Redirected from Dream World ==
 
Seeing as the Dream World is going to be a part of Gen V games, would it not make sense to have a page for it and Dream World to not redirect to this page? [[User:Dawnshadow|Dawnshadow]] 14:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:I completely agree. The Dream World is going to be a part of Gen. V, and as such there should not be a redirectory to Reverse World for it... Who considered "Dream World" a legit search of Reverse World in the first place? {{u|Frushil!}} 21:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::The redirect was created in 2008. You guys are right though, this name should be reserved for the Gen V games. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 21:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::The site's name is [[Pokémon Dream World]], so we'd redirect it there instead. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:53, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== USUM ==
 
Not sure how to handle it... but USUM refers to the +/-12 hour world as "reverse world". probably worth a note. is there an article to link to? [[User:Jmvb|JMVB - literally it doesn&#39;t stand for anything]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 15:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:16, 13 January 2018

Assuming that the CoroCoro scans are real, this could be moved from this page because of the in-game reverse world. RUCARIO 00:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, Torn World and reverse world could be totally different--KukiTalk 02:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

You're right, but isn't the Torn world supposed to be a reference to the reverse world?? Rucario64 14:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

That, my aura friend, is possibly probable--KukiTalk 14:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The more I think about maybe it would it be possible for Dialga to travel to the Torn world also like in the movie. Probably not but it might happen I think. Then the Protaganast would have to go in the Torn world to capture it. That is what I think will happen. What is your oppinion? Rucario64 01:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I dunno now that I think of it more I doubt that will happen but who knows these days. [[User:Rucario64|<span style="color:#120A8F;">Rucario64</span>-</span>]] 02:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

According to the movie summary at Serebii.net, the world was called the Torn World in the movie. However, since that summary was a rough, quick job, and had a plethora of errors (switching between English and Japanese names on a whim, as well), to trust that it got it right would be a bit of a dubious move. If anyone has a confirmation that the movie ACTUALLY says Reverse or Torn in the film (and I'm sure the translation of the words are not the same), then that would give evidence to move this article to join with the Torn World article. However, we're probably not going to get any lasting proof of that until December, when the DVD comes out in Japan; and I seriously question whether Nintendo of America and PUSA will actually translate these places as Reverse World and Torn World when the movie hits the States and when Platinum comes out. So for now, separate articles. Satosuke 13:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Merrick lies! As always! In the movie, the world is named 反転世界 Hanten Sekai, while the in-game world is named 敗れた世界 Yabureta Sekai, which also translated as "Reversed World". "Torn World" is not the best translation, made mainly to distinguish the two things. As the two names mean practically the same thing, they are still different words and diffrent names, which means that those two worlds are in fact two different things. Because different name = different thing, if they were going to feature the same world from games, they would also use the same name, wouldn't they? --Maxim 14:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Likely, but not always true...~Pokemaniac102 14:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


They're both the parallel dimension where Giratina resides with surreal architecture, I'm fairly sure it's safe to say that they're the same darn thing. --Zeta 04:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope. The official English name for the Torn World is now the Ruined World. The Reverse World (or Inversed World, as Maxim states), is quite different from the Torn World. However, should the dub translate the Reverse World as the Ruined World, then that might be means to combine the articles. However, the Ruined World is more like a warp in dimensions, while the Reverse World is like a complete alternate dimension. I doubt now that they are the same place. Glacidea is more similar to the Flower Paradise than the Reverse World to the Ruined World, and Glacidea can't be the Flower Paradise, because it's near Mt. Coronet, rather than far north of the Pokémon League. Separate articles. Satosuke 14:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
but they have to be the anime equivelent for them cus I doubt there going to make Torn World in the anime----------Ultamatecharizard 16:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually, if they are both named the Ruined World, then there probably will be two separate articles: "Ruined World (games)" and "Ruined World (anime)" TorchicBlaziken (talk) 17:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
According to Giratina and the Sky Warrior (00:23:16), Mugen said that Reverse World is a Torn World(Japanese subbed やぶれた世界) where rules are broken. In Diamond and Pearl Pokédex, Giratina is said to be a Pokémon that live in a world on the reverse side of ours. --Swampert 10:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Newton's Third Law of Motion

So, how is this correct? "The connection also has a sensitivity that behaves accordingly to Newton's third law, the law of reciprocal actions: to every action there is always an opposite and equal reaction. Therefore, any actions that occur in the Pokémon world will also take effect in the Reverse World and vice versa."

Newton's third law of motion is indeed the law of reciprocal actions, but it applies only to forces in motion. Thus applying it to different worlds would not make sense. If A hits B with a force of 80N, B would exert a force of -80N on A, but something that happens in one world and the same thing happening in another is completely different. Ultradude2k 07:49, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Redirected from Dream World

Seeing as the Dream World is going to be a part of Gen V games, would it not make sense to have a page for it and Dream World to not redirect to this page? Dawnshadow 14:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree. The Dream World is going to be a part of Gen. V, and as such there should not be a redirectory to Reverse World for it... Who considered "Dream World" a legit search of Reverse World in the first place? Frushil! 21:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
The redirect was created in 2008. You guys are right though, this name should be reserved for the Gen V games. Jellotalk 21:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
The site's name is Pokémon Dream World, so we'd redirect it there instead. TTEchidna 01:53, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

USUM

Not sure how to handle it... but USUM refers to the +/-12 hour world as "reverse world". probably worth a note. is there an article to link to? JMVB - literally it doesn't stand for anything (talk) 15:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Return to "Reverse World" page.