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:::Oh, I know the Pikablu thing was acknowledged by Nintendo, I have some Pikachu's Vacation cards that call it "Pikablu". I just think it's "stupid" because I personally believe they tried to make Marill the "next" Pikachu and that's why they planted the Pikablu thing. :P (and when that didn't work, they invented Pichu. That's just my theory though ^^)
:::Oh, I know the Pikablu thing was acknowledged by Nintendo, I have some Pikachu's Vacation cards that call it "Pikablu". I just think it's "stupid" because I personally believe they tried to make Marill the "next" Pikachu and that's why they planted the Pikablu thing. :P (and when that didn't work, they invented Pichu. That's just my theory though ^^)
:::Oh, and I agree with moving the Nidogod(dess) stuff et al to the PokéGods page. This article should be about hoaxes and widespread rumours, not fanon. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, and I agree with moving the Nidogod(dess) stuff et al to the PokéGods page. This article should be about hoaxes and widespread rumours, not fanon. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 00:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I can't say one way or the other, but it does seem likely that Nintendo intended to market Marill as the "next" Pikachu. Funny how nothing beat the original, huh? They haven't even tried again, except maybe with Lucario.
::::You can move Nidogod(dess) yourself, or discuss it, but I'm no longer allowed to touch the PokéGods article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:23, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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0: Someone should add a bit on here about the fake Shaymin Sky Form, that counts as a fake Pokémon Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 23:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

That Shaymin Sky Form fooled everybody. PK's too good of an artist. BlueJirachi 16:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed |: I wish i could draw like that! Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 16:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not that hard. The only thing that stops me from doing that is the color. To tell the truth, I'm a good drawer but a horrible colorer.Taviource 16:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh! and I don't like tricking people like that...Shaymin Sky.png...Shaymin says ROAR!!!--Taviource 16:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I suck at drawing, but i'm a good colored 0: We're like opposites! Takoto タコト| サソデイ = 愛 16:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I actually looked up "Enpandought" and the only page I got was this page (Bulbapedia's Fake Pokémon) where did y'all get that Pokémon? User:Psuamkpukrian 10:00, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Same thing happened here. Being an expert on fake Pokémon and the Pokégods, can't say that I've ever seen this "Enpandought" mentioned at any time at any place. Redstar 09:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
The actual Pokemon name appears to be "Enpanda". It is a fake Pokemon that is on Serebii's fake Pokemon page. -Sketch 14:14, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Move

I think this should be at "Fakémon", as that is what these things are commonly known as. Anyone else? Alpha CuboneKing 16:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

This name is better since not everyone uses "Fakémon" as a term (and Fake Pokémon is quite easily understandable). Fakémon is a redirect here, I think that's enough. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 17:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Definition

We need to define what a "fake" Pokémon is. Some of the examples on here would be more appropriately placed on the PokéGods article. There's a clear difference between fake Pokémon (created with no intention of being viewed as real) and the PokéGods (believed to be real by many). Redstar 14:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Yoshi & Luigi

Why are the fake Pokémon Yoshi and Luigi not allowed on this article? Redstar 22:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Because they aren't fake Pokemon. This article is for LITERAL fake Pokemon. Not jokes of Nintendo characters being Pokemon. -Sketch 01:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
How can a fake Pokémon be non-literal? By definition, an April Fool's day joke is a joke. By your logic, we shouldn't include any of the other April Fool's day fake Pokémon. In fact, none of the Pokémon on this page should be here under your logic because they're all fake. The fact of the matter is that both Yoshi and Luigi were presented as Pokémon for April Fool's days jokes, and Yoshi was even given a Pokédex entry by the magazine that perpetrated the hoax. There's no more ways for a fake Pokémon to be "literal". Redstar 02:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
i actually do recall many magazines tricking fans into thinking Yoshi was in Red and Blue. not so much Luigi. -- MAGNEDETH 02:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Expert Gamer magazine was the original source for Yoshi code, which was then re-printed and presented as real in other magazines later on. I have that particular issue coming in the mail for reference purposes, so I could provide the information here if needed. The Luigi trick supposedly originated in Nintendo Power, but I don't recall seeing that so I'm researching the origin of that one to be sure. Redstar 02:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
If we can verify that completely, sure... but only if they're mentioned as "non-Pokémon fake Pokémon". TTEchidna 02:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Agreed perfectly. I'll get sources when I can. Redstar 03:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Expert Gamer issue #58. Redstar 14:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect information

The article currently lists information that is incorrect or inappropriate for this article's subject. "Assumptions of real Pokémon", key-word "real", indicates that they are not fake. "Previously false assumptions" is also incorrect because not a single one of those assumed Pokémon had any fake artwork for them, with the exception of Leafeon.

This article is about FAKE Pokémon, not word-of-mouth mentions of something that may exist, but was never in any way presented as real. Even the recommended Nidogod and Nidogoddess turn up nothing on a Google search; the former a single result on a Spanish forum for fusions, and the latter nothing at all. Redstar 14:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you on Nidogod/Nidogoddess, I've never ever heard of those before (ditto for the Teddiursa one). An article like this should only present the really really well known stuff, like Mewthree and the stupid Pikablu thing. --ZestyCactus 17:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I've actually been informed that "Nidogoddess" turns up more when searching for "Nidogodess" (one d). However, both should be relegated only to the PokéGods page, since they don't necessarily fit the profile of a "fake" Pokémon. I feel we should only cover Pokémon on here that were intended to hoax or mislead people, as if we didn't, we'd be obligated to cover fan sprites and designs, of which there are hundreds. There's a clear difference between intent and "everyone knows they're fake".
As for your comment on Pikablu: several official sources identified Marill as "Pikablu", so it wasn't necessarily "stupid". Redstar 18:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I know the Pikablu thing was acknowledged by Nintendo, I have some Pikachu's Vacation cards that call it "Pikablu". I just think it's "stupid" because I personally believe they tried to make Marill the "next" Pikachu and that's why they planted the Pikablu thing. :P (and when that didn't work, they invented Pichu. That's just my theory though ^^)
Oh, and I agree with moving the Nidogod(dess) stuff et al to the PokéGods page. This article should be about hoaxes and widespread rumours, not fanon. --ZestyCactus 00:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't say one way or the other, but it does seem likely that Nintendo intended to market Marill as the "next" Pikachu. Funny how nothing beat the original, huh? They haven't even tried again, except maybe with Lucario.
You can move Nidogod(dess) yourself, or discuss it, but I'm no longer allowed to touch the PokéGods article. Redstar 00:23, 20 January 2010 (UTC)