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All of it seems speculative. Like I doubt Johanna won the Grand Festival right after Jessie was born. And I don't think there was any proof of Paul being 11 other than PokeAni estimating it to be so. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 12:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
All of it seems speculative. Like I doubt Johanna won the Grand Festival right after Jessie was born. And I don't think there was any proof of Paul being 11 other than PokeAni estimating it to be so. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 12:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Why aren't movies and specials considered cannon there is plenty of evdence to support them so they should be included. There is a lot of stuff on here that're inaccurate >:C


== Is this even nessacary? ==
== Is this even nessacary? ==
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Every body tends to call Ash ten, but it's sort of untrue. In the begining of most of the regions in the anime, the narrator calls Ash ten but there have been a few year passing episodes, like in an episode with the pichu bros. They were celebrating pikachu's one year anniversary with Ash. This being said there have been around 700 episodes or so and lets just say 1 episode= 1 day it would amount to around a little over two years. Also I doubt every episode is one day because there are times when it wouldn't make sense for it to be day by day. For example when Lyra and Corry were traveling with Ash and the Gang and had to go it had only been about three episodes and they acted like they had been there for a decent amount of, time so they had to have been there for at least a week or so. Also there are all kinds of conspiracy theories about why Ash is still young the truth is I believe he is only around 13 or so in the latest Black and White episodes. I really haven't changed all that much since I was 10  and I'm almost 13 so why should Ash have to change. And most of the girls that Ash has traveled with are just getting their first pokémon so they must've just turned 10 recently to the first episode of the season. Meaning the characters are each at least 1 year younger depending on who they are. Misty is older though and Iris is probably around the same age. This would also explain why Iris is always calling Ash a kid. ASH IS 13!{{unsigned|Alakazam Dan}}
Every body tends to call Ash ten, but it's sort of untrue. In the begining of most of the regions in the anime, the narrator calls Ash ten but there have been a few year passing episodes, like in an episode with the pichu bros. They were celebrating pikachu's one year anniversary with Ash. This being said there have been around 700 episodes or so and lets just say 1 episode= 1 day it would amount to around a little over two years. Also I doubt every episode is one day because there are times when it wouldn't make sense for it to be day by day. For example when Lyra and Corry were traveling with Ash and the Gang and had to go it had only been about three episodes and they acted like they had been there for a decent amount of, time so they had to have been there for at least a week or so. Also there are all kinds of conspiracy theories about why Ash is still young the truth is I believe he is only around 13 or so in the latest Black and White episodes. I really haven't changed all that much since I was 10  and I'm almost 13 so why should Ash have to change. And most of the girls that Ash has traveled with are just getting their first pokémon so they must've just turned 10 recently to the first episode of the season. Meaning the characters are each at least 1 year younger depending on who they are. Misty is older though and Iris is probably around the same age. This would also explain why Iris is always calling Ash a kid. ASH IS 13!{{unsigned|Alakazam Dan}}
:We go by canon here. The last time Ash's age was mentioned in canon, he was 10, and we have no way of confirming exactly how much time has passed in-universe since then. Therefore, he is 10 as far as Bulbapedia is concerned. (It's also quite probable that, like Bart and Lisa Simpson, he is perpetually 10 no matter how many birthdays or anniversaries pass, simply because the writers want to keep the status quo. It's common in cartoons, and even though it doesn't make sense, it's what they do.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
:We go by canon here. The last time Ash's age was mentioned in canon, he was 10, and we have no way of confirming exactly how much time has passed in-universe since then. Therefore, he is 10 as far as Bulbapedia is concerned. (It's also quite probable that, like Bart and Lisa Simpson, he is perpetually 10 no matter how many birthdays or anniversaries pass, simply because the writers want to keep the status quo. It's common in cartoons, and even though it doesn't make sense, it's what they do.)
:As a side note, an entire year passed in [[EP063|the first sixty-two episodes]], so if we speculated the way you want us to, Ash should be well over 20 years old by now at that rate. Plain and simple: he's a cartoon, so he doesn't age. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 
MMMMMM there are too many in accurate things here I don't think I should consider this a valid source though thanx for respondong so fast been nice talking to ya i understand you guys have to go with proven stuff. {{unsigned|Alakazam Dan}}
 
== trivia worthy at least ==
 
Not exactly which episode, but in either 162-167 (original series) Team Rocket states they have been chasing after Ash and his Pikachu for years, or something like that if my memory serves me.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 15:33, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 
==Clemont's age==
Clemont's age hasn't been explicitly stated in the anime yet. I've been watching the Japanese version too, and nothing. Because of that, I moved the statement "Clemont is born" to the year "???". Not to mention that since he is a Gym Leader with an evolved team of Pokemon, it seems unlikely that he is a new trainer. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] ([[User talk:Mooites|talk]]) 02:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 
== About Mairin ==
 
I just want to see what other people think about this. It say's Mairin got Chespie and started her journey before the XY series began but it's heavily suggested that she began her journey some time after XY002. The evidence being she didn't have any Pokémon other than Chespie at the time of her debut, she completely lacks experience as a trainer, and she said that Professor Sycamore told her about the events of XY002 (given the stage of her journey she was obviously at, I doubt she had any reason to visit him). I don't really expect the article to be changed I just figured it was worth bringing up to see what other people think about it.
 
== Power of Us ==
 
Just watched Power of Us and thought it made the most chronological sense if it went in the 'Gotta Catch Ya Later' section at the end of Johto below 'Ash leaves all his Pokémon, except Pikachu, at Professor Oak's Laboratory.'. I'm new here so not entirely sure how this works, if the chronology needs to be confirmed canon and haven't thoroughly checked for contradictions.[[User:Sgt.Monkeyface|Sgt.Monkeyface]] ([[User talk:Sgt.Monkeyface|talk]]) 00:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 
== Previous comment ==
 
Just watched the episode I thought Power of Us would fit in, in my last post, and my idea was wrong since Ash decides to go to Hoenn straight away, so feel free to delete this post and my previous one.
Thanks [[User:Sgt.Monkeyface|Sgt.Monkeyface]] ([[User talk:Sgt.Monkeyface|talk]]) 21:50, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 
== Black and White series  ==
 
Can someone add in the Crisis at Chargestone Cave that Team rocket meets bianca
 
and in the Curtian up unova league, * Bianca and Stephan meet each other for the first time.
* Bianca and Cameron meet each other for the first time.
* Cameron and Stephan meet each other for the first time. so remove cameron and bianca meeting under mission  defeat your rival
 
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== Possible split ==
 
This page takes hours to read completely, so maybe it can be splitted into a few pages:
 
EP001-EP080 (Kanto) + EP081-EP116 (Sevii Islands)
 
EP117-EP274 (Johto)
 
AG001-AG131 (Hoenn) + AG132-AG192 (Battle Frontier)
 
DP001-DP191 (Sinnoh)
 
BW001-BW122 (Unova) + BW123-BW142 (Decolore Islands)
 
XY001-XY140 (Kalos)
 
SM001-SM146 (Alola)
 
JN001-JN111 (Various)
 
[[User:CrazyPikmin|CrazyPikmin]] ([[User talk:CrazyPikmin|talk]]) 07:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 
== Regarding the potential split ==
 
I personally don't think this page needs to be split, but if it comes to that, I think it could be done in a similar vein to the "List of anime episodes" page and the separate series episode lists: smaller pages showing different series, while the existing page still views everything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:37, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 
== Re: Re: split ==
I like [[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]])'s idea- pages per season could be more detailed (or the detailed descriptions could be appended to the episode pages such as [[List of original series episodes]]), and then there could be an overarching page which is a bit more simplified/easier to parse. I'm a fan of using iconography similar to [https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Detective_Conan_Wiki:Plot_Legend DCMK's wiki][[DCMK's wiki]], but I imagine it would be difficult to determine which aspects of the show are significant development, or even how we should categorize events. Current episodes have about 20+ different categories, many of which could be redundant or possibly contain spoilers (such as "Episodes with Contests" "Episodes in which Dawn loses a Contest" "Episodes in which Jessie loses a Contest" etc.). One of the benefits of listing out episodes like this is that 1. It helps new fans identify what they should watch, if they want to avoid both filler episodes and spoilers, and 2. Using symbols of different categories instead of just a "filler/not-filler" list allows fans to curate their own experience (e.g., one person might consider [[Go West Young Meowth]] to be filler since it doesn't have anything to do with gyms/championship, whereas another might consider it to be crucial character development)
 
Not to mention, it could be difficult to determine which recurring characters are the most important to highlight, especially since the cast mostly changes each season (whereas DCMK has a more "stable" cast).
 
However, I'm not sure where the best place for the pre-series timeline would be in something like that. And what I'm suggesting may not match intent of folks who wanted to split the page.[[User:AquaBlack|AquaBlack]] ([[User talk:AquaBlack|talk]]) 16:29, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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