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:Old discussion, I know, but I want to just chime in as the person who started this whole mess and say that I agree, Phione is unquestionably a Mythical at this point, I think any disputing is long past. <small>- ''totally signed comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 10:13, 28 January 2022 (UTC) | :Old discussion, I know, but I want to just chime in as the person who started this whole mess and say that I agree, Phione is unquestionably a Mythical at this point, I think any disputing is long past. <small>- ''totally signed comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 10:13, 28 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
::At this point, I think it's safe to call Phione a Mythical Pokémon. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 00:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC) | ::At this point, I think it's safe to call Phione a Mythical Pokémon. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 00:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
== Mythical Status == | |||
The consensus for the past seven years of talk page discussion seems to be that Phione is indeed a Mythical Pokémon. The "evidence for" heavily outweighs the "evidence against", and much of the "evidence against" is old. I really don't think it's status is disputed anymore. Please comment below if you agree so that maybe we can make it even more clear to staff that we're ready for the change. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="orangered">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="darkviolet">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 04:07, 8 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
:At this point, the evidence for Phione being a Mythical Pokémon is overwhelming. The question is no longer whether it's Mythical; the question is how the page should mention the now-former dispute over its status. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 04:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Bumping this. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 04:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::Vote for.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 11:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::Agreed too.--[[User:MissDelibirda|MissDelibirda]] ([[User talk:MissDelibirda|talk]]) 15:39, 29 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::Total and complete agreement. Unquestionably a Mythical. <small>- ''totally signed comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 22:08, 11 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
In the new Pokemon video, it shows Phione as part of the mythicals Pokemon. {{unsigned|TsukiDrifloon}} | |||
:Is there a reason at this point why the page still says it's disputed? It's... pretty clearly a Mythical at this point. And if you remember, I'm the one who started this dispute to begin with. I was wrong, simple as that. Can we not edit the page to actually refer to it as a Mythical now? <small>- ''totally signed comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 18:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
::I read somewhere on here that the issue was no longer that its status was disputed, it was how we should document its formerly-disputed status. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] ([[User talk:Zurqoxn|talk]]) 13:25, 13 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::According to Kogoro, there's still some recent discrepancies that are holding it back. [https://discord.com/channels/202737349996576769/206616744180056065/996191053428306031 Here's the conversation on Discord]. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="#00d1bc">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="#006699">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 20:20, 13 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm a few months late but I just want to point out that I absolutely don't agree there are any "recent discrepancies", that conversation only makes mention of an oddity in HOME that was fixed three years ago and now even HOME treats it as Mythical (just like every other recently-released game that distinguishes between Mythicals and non-Mythicals). Honestly I don't think there's any further deliberating on this that needs to be done, can we please just start calling Phione mythical already? [[User:Bandana Hewer Dee|Bandana Hewer Dee]] ([[User talk:Bandana Hewer Dee|talk]]) 10:56, 31 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::: Agreed, if is HOME no longer treating it inconsistently in trades/the GTS, that makes the most recent "evidence against" in an actual Pokémon game close to a decade old (Pokémon Bank not giving it a shiny background), with the only recent, (if you consider 2020 recent), "evidence against" being from an extremely "questionably canon" piece of media, the "Pokémon: Kids Winter Fest" minigame website, which is now shutdown, and only lasted a year. [[User:Atrius97|Atrius97]] ([[User talk:Atrius97|talk]]) 04:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::Sounds pretty cut and dry to me. <small>- ''totally signed comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 02:52, 25 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
{{Indent}}Just chiming in to make it clear that I still support Phione being considered Mythical (because it is). [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="#00d1bc">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="#006699">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 08:40, 25 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:So given that there's a very clear consensus in favour of Phione being mythical (and there has been for several years now), can we start editing the articles at this point to reflect that? Or are we waiting for some kind of go-ahead? [[User:Bandana Hewer Dee|Bandana Hewer Dee]] ([[User talk:Bandana Hewer Dee|talk]]) 15:43, 26 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
::Waiting on approval from the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. Someone could probably poke one of the board members about it. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="#00d1bc">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="#006699">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 18:57, 26 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::For whatever it may be worth, SnorlaxMonster (a member of the board) expressed support for this earlier on this talk page ([[#Mythical Status (again)|here]] and [[#Mythical dispute, continued|here]]). [[User:Bandana Hewer Dee|Bandana Hewer Dee]] ([[User talk:Bandana Hewer Dee|talk]]) 06:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::The page has been edited to accommodate this approval. I personally would've probably voted for "yes" as well. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:38, 6 September 2023 (UTC) | |||