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Why on earth was this moved from "Battle Tower (Generation IV)" to "Battle Tower (Sinnoh)"? It's inconsistent with the naming convention used by the other Battle Tower pages, and it doesn't even make sense, as the article covers both the Sinnoh and Johto Battle Towers, not just the former. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 01:42, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Why on earth was this moved from "Battle Tower (Generation IV)" to "Battle Tower (Sinnoh)"? It's inconsistent with the naming convention used by the other Battle Tower pages, and it doesn't even make sense, as the article covers both the Sinnoh and Johto Battle Towers, not just the former. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 01:42, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:You know, this article is currently covering 3 kinds of Battle Tower at once:
:# Battle Tower (Diamond and Pearl)
:# Battle Tower (Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver)
:# Battle Tower (Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl)
:I'm thinking maybe we can split this article somehow. Arguably this current design with the 3 versions together can be a problem because when we are playing one of those games, we probably don't need to know all the information about all the other versions. With this current design, we have to scroll, skip sections, and find the right sections when playing.
:If we kept this article as is, with the 3 Battle Tower versions together, I suppose any of the names in this list below would be entirely accurate for the entire article... but I'm not really suggesting them, I'm just saying for fun:
:* Battle Tower (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Brilliant Diamond, and Shining Pearl)
:* Battle Tower (Generation IV, Brilliant Diamond, and Shining Pearl)
:* Battle Tower (Generation IV and their Generation VIII remakes)
:* Battle Tower (Sinnoh and Generation IV Johto)
:* Battle Tower (Fight Area and Olivine City)
:* Battle Tower (Palmer)
:In my opinion, just Battle Tower (Generation IV) was a pretty good title before BDSP, but it's not entirely accurate anymore because now it covers BDSP as well. Similarly, the exact title Battle Tower (Sinnoh and Johto) would not be very good because there's also another Battle Tower from Generation II Johto. Battle Tower (Generation IV and Generation VIII) would not work either because there's the [[Battle Tower (Galar)]] too. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 09:37, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Revision as of 09:37, 6 August 2023

Restricted Items

I'm fairly sure Soul Dew's effect is rendered null. But I have no idea what other items are nullified. Angerman 09:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Is anyone sure if you earn EVs in Battle Tower while battling? I know you do NOT gain experience from defeating other pokemon...but perhaps you still gain EVs? --Ginocoolowski 23:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

IV tester

There is an IV tester in the Battle Tower of PM Platinum. I still don't see any information about him, can anyone add the dialogue of the IV tester? This is a fairly important NPC of the game. --Fromia 17:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Full (albeit super late) list of NCP Pokemon

Made a full list of NPC Pokemon as a reference for anyone who still plays Diamond and Pearl. Maybe someone still has that 100 streak on their bucket list?

User:TehPerson/List_of_Battle_Tower_Pokémon_(Generation_IV)

(This is not the same list for Battle Frontier.) TehPerson (talk) 16:05, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Battle Tower in Gen VIII

When are you going to update this page or create a separate page¿ --ScientistRafa (talk) 07:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

BDSP Trainer listings

Since there's no Battle Tower (BDSP) page yet, in the meantime, here's my work-in-progress for the Trainer listings for the Battle Tower. The data's all there, just some page-name conventions and such that aren't finalized.

TehPerson (talk) 20:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

What happened with Pokémon's natures? --ScientistRafa (talk) 00:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
To add, here is the list of Pokemon as well:
Note, for the calculated stat values, the Trainer listings DO take Items (e.g. Iron Ball, Choice Scarf) or Abilities (e.g. Huge Power) into account. For the Pokémon listings, they DO NOT. There is no logical reason for this. I'm unsure which one is more appropriate to use (and how to account for temporary cases like Slow Start), so in the final version, I may take out the Item/Ability calculations.
TehPerson (talk) 17:58, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Move?

Why on earth was this moved from "Battle Tower (Generation IV)" to "Battle Tower (Sinnoh)"? It's inconsistent with the naming convention used by the other Battle Tower pages, and it doesn't even make sense, as the article covers both the Sinnoh and Johto Battle Towers, not just the former. Golden Trainer (talk) 01:42, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

You know, this article is currently covering 3 kinds of Battle Tower at once:
  1. Battle Tower (Diamond and Pearl)
  2. Battle Tower (Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver)
  3. Battle Tower (Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl)
I'm thinking maybe we can split this article somehow. Arguably this current design with the 3 versions together can be a problem because when we are playing one of those games, we probably don't need to know all the information about all the other versions. With this current design, we have to scroll, skip sections, and find the right sections when playing.
If we kept this article as is, with the 3 Battle Tower versions together, I suppose any of the names in this list below would be entirely accurate for the entire article... but I'm not really suggesting them, I'm just saying for fun:
  • Battle Tower (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Brilliant Diamond, and Shining Pearl)
  • Battle Tower (Generation IV, Brilliant Diamond, and Shining Pearl)
  • Battle Tower (Generation IV and their Generation VIII remakes)
  • Battle Tower (Sinnoh and Generation IV Johto)
  • Battle Tower (Fight Area and Olivine City)
  • Battle Tower (Palmer)
In my opinion, just Battle Tower (Generation IV) was a pretty good title before BDSP, but it's not entirely accurate anymore because now it covers BDSP as well. Similarly, the exact title Battle Tower (Sinnoh and Johto) would not be very good because there's also another Battle Tower from Generation II Johto. Battle Tower (Generation IV and Generation VIII) would not work either because there's the Battle Tower (Galar) too. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 09:37, 6 August 2023 (UTC)