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Now if only we could get this level of detail in every other Pokemon's page. | == Detail == | ||
Now if only we could get this level of detail in every other Pokemon's page. {{unsigned|Kage}} | |||
:Really. Where are the citations? This level of detail leaves many doubts in my mind. There are no sources referenced, and many of the "facts" under Physiology are questionable. | :Really. Where are the citations? This level of detail leaves many doubts in my mind. There are no sources referenced, and many of the "facts" under Physiology are questionable. | ||
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:Unless there are citations for any of these facts, they should not be on this article. --[[User:Felwolf|Felwolf]] 02:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC) | :Unless there are citations for any of these facts, they should not be on this article. --[[User:Felwolf|Felwolf]] 02:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Tutoring == | |||
The only remaining item left to tidy is the "by Tutoring" section. Then its perfect, I think. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:48, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | The only remaining item left to tidy is the "by Tutoring" section. Then its perfect, I think. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:48, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Rock Tomb == | |||
How come Rock Tomb is stab?? --MAXDude17 | How come Rock Tomb is stab?? --MAXDude17 | ||
Fixed. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span> | Fixed. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] 11:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Crystal sprite== | ==Crystal sprite== | ||
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== Bipedal == | == Bipedal == | ||
I wouldn't consider Typhlosion bipedal. It might be able to stand on to feet, but it obviously move on all four. | I wouldn't consider Typhlosion bipedal. It might be able to stand on to feet, but it obviously move on all four. --<span style="color:orange;">Citru</span><span style="color:green;">''X''</span><span style="color:orange;">'''♪'''</span> 11:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
:If it can stand one two feet, it's bipedal. If not it's either levitating or Quadrapedal--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 12:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Even a hamster can stand on two feet, but is a hamster bipedal? I would say no --<span style="color:orange;">[[User:CitruX|Citru]]</span><span style="color:green;">[[User_talk:CitruX|''X'']]</span><span style="color:orange;">[[User:CitruX|'''♪''']]</span> 14:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::But Typhlosion has been shown to be able to ''walk'' on two feet. Nevertheless, I don't know if it should be considered bipedal, seeing as the Pokédex doesn't consider it to be so (its body style is listed as four-legged). --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 16:56, 20 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Another possible name inspiration? == | |||
While looking through some bits of greek myth today, I stumbled upon this little creature: http://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Creatures/Typhoeus/typhoeus.html | |||
Given, Typhlosion doesn't have a hundred heads, but it does deal with fire.[[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 06:48, 3 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Eruption? == | |||
In the Gen II Pokedex entries it says for Silver "It has a secret, devastating move..." or something like that, which links to Eruption, yet Eruption wasn't introduced until Gen. III. Now one there is no mention of that being odd in the trivia or anywhere else in the article to maybe explain why it was linked to that, and two that doesn't seem right... I mean, should it link to Eruption, even if it makes sense? Idk I just wanna see what people say. I won't change it for fear of possibly messing up a section or something... [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 22:37, 24 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Before the possibility of someone saying it comes true and they think I'm blind, yes I know that the FRLG Pokedex entries are the same as GS. the link would work better there, though it would still be kinda weird considering...[[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 23:12, 24 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
== What? == | |||
''"Bom" Which means 'Tiger' in Chinese.'' | |||
This is not the Chinese word for tiger in either the Mandarin or Cantonese dialects. Could this be removed? [[User:Mokoniki|Mokoniki]] 20:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
== I hope I'm doing this right? == | |||
Maybe I'm ignorant of Gen V, which I hope I'm not considering I beat the game, but I'm sure Fire-types are not weak to Dragon. Idk how to change stuff or I'd do it myself. [[User:Zetaphrem|~~President of Zeta-Tech Inc.~~]] 10:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)Zetaphrem | |||
:Fixed. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 10:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Bipedal? == | |||
I see there was a discussion on this about a year ago, but it doesn't seem to have been resolved. I didn't want to add to it because it's more than six months old, but I did want to bring up the subject. I noticed this page has a lot of references to Typhlosion being a natural biped, including a piece of trivia about it. However, the Pokédex classifies it as a quadruped. I wanted to do a little research on this, so I checked out some videos of the anime and 3D games. It looks to me like whenever Typhlosion wants to do some serious moving (running, for example) it moves on four legs. I even some a shot of Typhlosion eating on all fours, as opposed to sitting up the way most bipeds would. However, I only looked at a couple of videos, so I am by no means an expert. I know Typhlosion can stand on two legs and is usually drawn that way, but as {{p|Beartic}}'s anime appearance shows, it could still be a quadruped. I thought that since both its "Behavior" and "Trivia" sections refer to it as naturally bipedal when it could just as easily be naturally quadrupedal, this was a worthy subject to bring up. I do deeply apologize if I am wrong about this. I'm only trying to help make our articles as accurate as possible. Thanks! [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 10:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Typhlosion shouldn't be classified as solely a bipedal, or quadrupedal. (except for the sake of body type) In many series' it shows Typhlosion running on all four, whereas in PMD it runs on its hind legs. (of course you could just argue that it's merely the walking animation sped up...) Pikachu is another example of this bipedal/quadrupedal movement. It typically runs on on all fours, but [[PK01|has been shown that it can run at high speeds on two legs.]] So I think the classification of it being bipedal, with the ''option'' of being quadrupedal, is based solely on the images of Typhlosion that exist currently, rather than actually watching its movements. So I say we go off the body-type and call it a quadruped that can be bipedal if it chooses to be. Slightly off the topic of order, I truly hope they someday make a sprite of Typhlosion that has it standing on all four of its legs. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::I agree completely. If it's all right, I'm going to do some minor editing to work the bipedal/quadrupedal by choice into the article, as opposed to simply naturally bipedal. Although I'd probably remove that trivia piece, as it would then be irrelevant. However, if we should wait for more opinions, I'm fine with that, too. For the record, I think a sprite of Typhlosion on all fours would look awesome. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 11:01, 29 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Toon Patrol Inspiration == | |||
I believe Typhlsion's appearance was inspired by the Toon Patrol from the movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 00:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120612233354/disney/images/a/a2/The_Toon_Patrol.png | |||
:I don't personally think it looks much like anything from that picture. [[User:Litwick96|<span style="color:purple">Litwick</span>]][[User Talk:Litwick96|<span style="color:grey">96</span>]] 01:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Typhlosion has a long body and neck and no tail.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 02:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::So? Those characters all look mainly like dogs to me, Typhlosion is more like a ferret or badger. [[User:Litwick96|<span style="color:purple">Litwick</span>]][[User Talk:Litwick96|<span style="color:grey">96</span>]] 03:35, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::Opinion. I personally don't see it. I doubt they'd create something based off a character, especially one not from Japan.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::The toon patrol are weasels as typhlosion is.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 12:34, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Even if Typhlosion was a Weasel, that doesn't mean it was based off of them. It would be based of a weasel.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 12:39, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Then how would you explain the lack of a tail. Real-life weasels have tails.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 15:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Then that means either they decided to remove the tail (for whatever reasons) or the Typhlpsion '''is not''' based of a weasel.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Why wouldn't they create something based of a character not from Japan? I see that in other pokemon. Digimon did it as well.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 13:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::But something as vague as the Toon Patrol?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:58, 8 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::Maybe. Don't forget about Quilava.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 15:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::That's not at all similar. But here's an another idea: I saw someone mention that Typhlosion look like spectacled bear, and after googling that I can see what they meant. Even the fur colors match: https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8436/7922203202_46a34a4579_b.jpg [[User:Zaltys|Zaltys]] ([[User talk:Zaltys|talk]]) 12:07, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
::If Typhlosion was a bear, it would have a shorter neck, bigger claws and a color pattern more like Snorlax's.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 14:23, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Possible Trivia? == | |||
*Typhlosion has made the minimum amount of anime appearances out of all fully evolved starter Pokemon. It is also the only fully evolved starter Pokemon to not appear in a movie. | |||
Is this a legit trivia? | |||
[[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 05:48, 16 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:If that minimum isn't "zero", then I don't think it's worth keeping track of the first part. The latter part...specifying "in a movie" might be a bit too specific. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:03, 16 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
I just confirmed the "in a movie" part. And that's legit. The Kanto trio appeared in the first movie, Meganium and Feraligatr and appeared in the opening scenes of Zoroark:Master of Illusions, Blaziken appeared in destiny deoxys, Swampert appeared in Volcanion and the Mechanical Marvel, the Gen 4 trio appeared in The rise of Darkrai, the Gen 5 trio appeared in the Victini Black and White movies, and the Gen 6 trio appeared in Diancie and the Cocoon of destruction. So atleast the second part is perfectly legit. | |||
[[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 06:34, 16 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Why Reverted? == | |||
It should be rather notable that a fully evolved starter dosen't appear in ANY movie at all, specially after the trend that the regional starter trio's evolutions appear in their respective region's movies. | |||
So, I guess that the trivia is notable enough to be listed. ALL other starter evolutions have appeared in atleast one movie. {{unsigned|PkmnTrainerV}} | |||
:Two reasons. First, it's just the movies. The starters are a relatively small group, as are the movies. Saying that this member of a small group is not in this other small group isn't really notable. Typhlosion has gotten screentime elsewhere and in a few specials as well. Second, it will become null as soon as Gen VII is released, as obviously none of those starters have been in a movie either. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 07:22, 16 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:: Regarding Typhlosion' screentime, I did mention in the previous topic that a Typhlosion is eligible for the trivia for the starter Pokemon with least anime appearances, (which is 3: Gonna Rule the School, Legend of Thunder, Poetry Commotion) which tied with Chestnaught (if movies are classed as 'appearances'). | |||
So I guess it should be noted that Typhlosion has got lesser appearances than the other starter Pokemon which is 3x6=18 Pokemon,{{unsigned|PkmnTrainerV}} | |||
:Eighteen out of 700+ Pokemon. Really, the least isn't particularly notably in this case, unless that number happens to be zero appearances in the anime. Also, please remember to sign your talkpage comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Thanks. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 07:53, 16 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Badgers == | |||
Typhlosion doesn't really look that much like a honey badger. It has more in common with the European Badger(below) as well as the Asian badger and the Japanese badger.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 21:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
https://animaldiversity.org/collections/contributors/Grzimek_mammals/Mustelidae/meles_meles/medium.jpg | |||
== Trivia for Hisuian Typhlosion == | |||
Hisuian Typhlosion is now the only fully-evolved Gen II Ghost-Type Pokémon. Previously there was Galarian Corsola and Msidreavous, but both of these have evolutions. I figured this would be interesting trivia worth noting on the main article, given the extremely low diversity of Gen II Ghost-Types. --[[User:Mjmannella|Mjmannella]] ([[User talk:Mjmannella|talk]]) 11:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Hisuian Typhlosion isn't Gen 2, though. It (and by extension its new Ghost typing) was first introduced in Legends Arceus, which is Gen 8. [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 13:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Would you then say that the ? and ! forms of Unown are Gen 3? It's the same principle of forms being added after the base Pokémon debut. Would it not make the most sense to tie generations to the Pokémon's Pokédex number? --[[User:Mjmannella|Mjmannella]] ([[User talk:Mjmannella|talk]]) 15:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC) | |||