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==Celi Bee== | ==Celi Bee== | ||
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC) | When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== In the trivia section: == | == In the trivia section: == | ||
It says what "Celebi has the most weaknesses of any legendary Pokémon", but now Terrakion have 7 weaknesses as well, with the fairy introduction, so yeah change it :3 | It says what "Celebi has the most weaknesses of any legendary Pokémon", but now Terrakion have 7 weaknesses as well, with the fairy introduction, so yeah change it :3 {{unsigned|.Rawr!}} | ||
:Done. In the future, you can do this yourself; there's no need to request simple edits like this on the talk page — just major ones. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:04, 3 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Celebi's got the Kalos dex symbol but is not in any Kalos Dex == | |||
I just noticed that Celebi's got the Kalos dex symbol but is not in any Kalos Dex. It shows up in the national dex, but usually when a Pokémon has the Kalos dex symbol, its because they're in one of the three Kalos dexes. Pokémon who do not appear in the Kalos Dexes usually have the National dex symbol of a Poké Ball. Should this anomaly be mentioned?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:50, 7 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:That's not what the symbol means; the "Kalos dex symbol", the pentagon, represents Pokemon that originate in a Gen 6 game. Note that the event Torchic shows the symbol despite the Torchic family not being in the Kalos dex. The event Celebi is similarly marked. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::So any Pokémon generated in a gen 6 game has this symbol? And any Pokémon transferred over from a previous gen game will have the Poké Ball symbol? | |||
::Because I have for example the gen V starters and they have the "Kalos Symbol" But I believe they were born from Pokémon Bred in gen VI before I received them. On the other hand I have Minccino and Cinccino (which I got through a trade) in my dex, but they have the Poké Ball symbol instead.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::I'm fairly certain that the symbols are indeed based on the game in which an individual Pokemon was generated. For example, if you breed a Minccino from the ones you have with the Poke Ball symbol in XY, it should replace the symbol in the dex with the Kalos one. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:48, 7 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::Ok, I just verified it did get replaced and upon evolution, Cinccino's also got replaced. I see now, so even if a Poké Ball is there, if at any time a Pokémon generated in/for a Gen VI game is acquired, then the Poké Ball will be replaced with the Pentagon Kalos Symbol. Ok thank you for clearing this up.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Hold Back == | |||
I think from gen 6 and on [[Hold Back]] is part of the skillset of [[Celebi]]. I got my [[Pokemon Bank Celebi]], erased the move and was then able to "relearn" it. I know this isn't proof enough, but I would want someone to try to get a non-bank-event [[Celebi]] to a gen 6 game and attempt to "relearn" [[Hold Back]] on the [[Move Reminder]]. If someone is able to confirm this leave a note here so someone can either update the front page or close this section. [[User:LordHieros|LordHieros]] ([[User talk:LordHieros|talk]]) 07:10, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Pokémon can relearn event moves in Gen VI. non-bank event celebi cannot learn hold back. --<b>[[User talk:Relicant|<span style="color:#EBEBEB;">The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|<span style="color:#F08030;">Truth</span>]]</b> aka Relicant 07:19, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Celebi-Celery== | |||
Did anyone else notice that Celebi sounds a lot like Celery, and it's a grass-type? {{unsigned|MarkyShark5}} | |||
:It has no connection to celery other than a similar name and type, so I wouldn't put anything on the article about it. --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">Best</font>]]</span></font> 01:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== More on the Name Origin == | |||
Celebi's name may be a mis-romanised French phonetic pun. Since Japanese lacks not only a distinctive "l" sound but also a "v" sound, "Celevi" is also a legitimate romanisation. Celevi phonetically approximates "C'est la vie", the French equivalent of the English phrase "That's life". This makes thematic sense both from a figurative standpoint ("That's life" as a phrase referring to something you should have done and didn't, as Celebi is the Time Travel Pokémon), and a literal one (as Celebi is the Guardian of the Forest, and defender of the abundant variety of life within). | |||
In conclusion, Celebi = Celevi = C'est la vie. This sounds fairly plausible to me. | |||
Thoughts? —[[User:FlameUser64|FlameUser64]] ([[User talk:FlameUser64|talk]]) 16:50, 13 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Omega Ruby Pokédex Entry == | |||
I have the English Pokédex entry for Celebi in Omega Ruby, but since I don't have the one from Alpha Sapphire yet, I don't think it should be added (everywhere else I've looked, the Pokédex entries from paired versions have always been added at the same time). The entry says: "This Pokémon came from the future by crossing over time. It is thought that so long as Celebi appears, a bright and shining future awaits us." [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 02:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Blue/Red Rescue Team? == | |||
I get it's to save multiple pictures but... I have never even seen let alone even heard of the presence of the Shiny version of Celebi on the first Mystery Dungeon games. The Shiny is purely exclusive to T/D/S as a plot-exclusive Pokemon (and that special episode AND the tag-along in the future). I have not been made aware of its presence in the first MD games, so it is a little misleading to have it flashing on both like that. [[User:Pinkolol16|Pinkolol16]] ([[User talk:Pinkolol16|talk]]) 06:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
So... we gonna do something about this or no? I don't think we want to mislead when it comes to PMD1; Shiny Celebi makes no appearance in that game. [[User:Pinkolol16|Pinkolol16]] ([[User talk:Pinkolol16|talk]]) 10:47, 8 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Wrong Japanese Name Breakdown== | |||
The Japanese breakdown of Celebi's name is translated incorrectly, and improperly labeled. It's Japanese name is written as セレビイ (with a small イ), but it has the English "Celebi" under it's name. This is very misleading, as the sound "Ce" or even the letter/sound "C" does not appear in the Japanese language. The "L" sound/letter also does not exist in Japanese. The correct pronunciation/romaji is "Serebii"... セ=se, レ=re, ビ=bi, イ=i... Japanese character sounds -never- change their pronunciations under any circumstances, so to showcase it as such is highly inaccurate. [[User:Asiyd|Asiyd]] ([[User talk:Asiyd|talk]]) 05:11, 27 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
:It's the trademarked Japanese romanization seen on merchandise and what not. The "Serebii" translation is mentioned, just hover your mouse over the translation on the infobox and a small box should appear with the "Serebii" translation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Shouldn't that be listed under trivia then? It was my impression that the name section for romaji was for direct translation and pronunciation... regardless of official publishing, it is still pronounced as 'Serebii', due to how the Japanese language works. [[User:Asiyd|Asiyd]] ([[User talk:Asiyd|talk]]) 16:38, 27 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Unlike Wikipedia, we go with what the first party source has it as, rather than a third party.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::: .... Wow, okay, you're kinda rude. Going by your rudeness, I do believe I'm gonna respond in kind. Unlike Wikipedia, I guess you guys don't care about accuracy, then. Go take a Japanese language course. [[User:Asiyd|Asiyd]] ([[User talk:Asiyd|talk]]) 05:38, 28 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Apologies if that sounded rude, that wasn't my intention. Using what the official product uses is being accurate. Why would we not use what the creators intended the romanization to be? We're going to trust Pokemon.com more than a random news site. The transliteration is mentioned, but that does not mean it is the official name that Game Freak uses.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 07:04, 28 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Something that's kind of being glossed over here: the format of that parenthetical is not strictly meant for romanizations (or pronunciations), it's meant for ''translations''. See, for instance, [[Potion]], which says "'''Potion''' (Japanese: '''キズぐすり''' ''Wound medicine'')", not "'''Potion''' (Japanese: '''キズぐすり''' ''kizugusuri'')". In the case of Pokemon names, the trademarked romanization is a far more proper "translation" than any strict romanization. For something like {{p|Crustle}}, for instance, ''Iwapalace'' is much better "translated"/more illuminating than ''iwaparesu''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:12, 28 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Deoxys is no longer the only Mythical Pokémon that isn't event exclusive! == | |||
With the release of Pokémon Crystal on Virtual Console, Celebi, along with the GS Ball, is now obtainable in-game. [[User:OmegaSilver|OmegaSilver]] ([[User talk:OmegaSilver|talk]]) 23:30, 26 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Game Location for Gen 7 == | |||
Thoughts on editing the Gen VII Game Location section to list both [[Event]] and [[Poké Transporter|Transfer]] from [[Pokémon_Crystal_Version#Differences_in_the_Virtual_Console_release|Virtual Console Crystal]]? [[User:Teelo|Teelo]] ([[User talk:Teelo|talk]]) 05:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
:Our standards for location sections are that direct availability > indirect availability via evolution > event availability > transfer from past generations, such that availability in any category means we don't list lower categories. Otherwise, the sections would balloon immensely, with almost every Pokemon getting "Transfer from such-and-such game" listed numerous times. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:20, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Where does [[Trade]] fit into that chain? I often see "Trade, Event". [[User:Teelo|Teelo]] ([[User talk:Teelo|talk]]) 06:32, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::Also, looking at [[Deoxys_(Pokémon)#Game_locations|Deoxys]] I see that "Event, Transfer" has been done before. "Poké Transfer, Event". "Pal Park, Event". [[User:Teelo|Teelo]] ([[User talk:Teelo|talk]]) 06:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Worldwide Celebi == | |||
This page is edit protected for some reason, but the worldwide celebi codes expired yesterday (December 31, 2021); should probably be updated in the table. [[User:4iamking|4iamking]] ([[User talk:4iamking|talk]]) 15:29, 1 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Done. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:42, 2 January 2022 (UTC) | |||