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 A few years ago, while my Ruby was working okay, I encountered a Milotic at the Weather Institute's route (forgot what it was). Is it a glitch? After so many years, it's hard to remember. Oh, and it was on the grass... '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup> 02:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 :Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Milotic is never found in the wild. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 03:08, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
-::It definetely happened...the Ruby was fake! (No surprise in Singapore) <span style=" background:#000000">'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<font color=blue>Ph34r4ever]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|<font color=navy>Talk page]][[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|<span class="buttonlink" title="GeminiSpark!">♊</span></font clear="all">]]</sc>'''</span> 02:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
+::It definetely happened...the Ruby was fake! (No surprise in Singapore) <span style=" background:#000000">'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<font color=blue>Ph34r4ever</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|<font color=navy>Talk page</font>]][[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|<span class="buttonlink" title="GeminiSpark!">♊</span>]]</sc>'''</span> 02:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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 more specifically that lotic refers to river ecosystems, as said in the second paragraph [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_ecosystem here]. I think it is very likely, due to the fact that the venus de MILO is an example of beauty, and as such, milotic's name can be translated as beautiful river. [[user:Tryplot|Tryplot]] ([[User talk:Tryplot|talk]]) 12:13, 14 May 2014
 :I'd say to go ahead and add it. Just be careful in your wording or one of us will have to correct it. —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> 17:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
+== Core series trivia ==
+I'm going to ask here as it is related to the trivia point that was just edited/reverted. XD is listed on [[Pokémon games]] as being in the core series, however on the templates that appear at the bottom of game pages it is listed as a spin off game. Which is correct? [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 01:35, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
+:See [[core series]]; also [[generation]] (and [[Pokémon games]] now). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
+== Questionable Beauty ==
+Milotic's UltraSun Pokédex Entry: "While Milotic is said to be the most beautiful Pokémon, Trainers who like Feebas and have raised it are seemingly disappointed by Milotic." The other Pokédex entries say that Milotic the most beautiful Pokemon. --[[User:GuledKING|GuledKING]] ([[User talk:GuledKING|talk]]) 21:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
+== "Scales change color with viewing angle" effect ==
+I've been meaning to propose this for a long time. Even though the article says there has been no depiction of this, there is in fact one and only game in which this was depicted, Pokemon Battle Revolution, as can be seen from the image here, [https://imgur.com/8RzoMt0] (PBR videos can be looked up on Youtube for more proof). The reason I have delayed proposing this is that I needed to verify it. I was able to dump the textures from the game not so long ago, and found out there is indeed a rainbow gradient texture used for Milotic's tail. I hope now this is clear, this can be edited in the main article. [[User:Remiccino|Remiccino]] ([[User talk:Remiccino|talk]]) 10:24, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
+== Japanese name origin of "miro" ==
+''Kalos'' is already explained in the article to be derived from Greek to mean beautiful, and I believe "miro" is a reference to the Ancient Greek "myros" (μῦρος), meaning sea eel<ref>https://lsj.gr/wiki/%CE%BC%E1%BF%A6%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%82 "a kind of sea-eel"</ref>, or male moray (eel).<ref name=myr>https://www.fishbase.se/summary/2652 "Etymology: Myrophis: Greek, myros, -ou = male of morey eel..."</ref><ref>http://www.etyfish.org/anguilliformes2/ "myros, Greek for a male moray, used here as a general word for eel..."</ref>
+The phonetic transcription of ῦ (upsilon with perispomenon) seems to be y.<ref>https://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/greek.htm</ref>  In whatever way it was originally pronounced in Ancient Greek, upsilon went through "iotacism"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotacism#Vowels_and_diphthongs_involved</ref> so the "y" in ''myros'' seems to sound either like "ee" in "meet"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Greek#cite_ref-iotacism_9-3</ref> or "ew" in "few".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Greek#cite_ref-iotacism_9-4</ref>
+If you put μῦρος into Google Translate and click the speaker icon to pronounce the word, the tool will say "mee-ros".
+https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=el&tl=en&text=%CE%BC%E1%BF%A6%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%82
+ミロ (miro) from ミロカロス is pronounced with a similar sound.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana#Table_of_katakana</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Japanese</ref>
+https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=ja&tl=en&text=%E3%83%9F%E3%83%AD
+There is a family of fish called Ophichthidae, commonly called snake eels.  Within the family, there are two genera called Myrophis and Myrichthys.<ref name=ophi>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophichthidae</ref>  The "myr" in both names is a reference to ''myros''<ref name=myr /><ref>https://www.fishbase.se/summary/8053</ref>
+I think with Milotic having a cylindrical body like a serpent, ''myros'' being contextualized to a taxonomic rank basically called snake/serpent-fish<ref name=ophi />, and kalos/kaross also being derived from Greek, I think there is plenty of relevance to make the theory of miro/ミロ being derived from Ancient Greek ''myros'' plausible.
+I think "eel that is beautiful" from ''myros'' + ''kalos'' is a more apt of Milotic than the Venus de Milo theory.
+What do yo think?
+--[[User:Easyname|Easyname]] ([[User talk:Easyname|talk]]) 02:36, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
+== Remove "as shown in the anime" from "it can move by floating in the air" ==
+Following the release of Sword and Shield, it can be seen in Pokémon Camp how the Pokémon actually uses its walking and running animations.
+Milotic is depicted to be floating when in motion; however, it also can land onto the ground at will, with transition animations between floating and landing on the ground, similar to how Flying Pokémon are treated. This is different from typical fish/aquatic Pokémon that only float magically instead of swimming.
+Thus, the anime is not the only major canonical medium to portray this anymore; we already have a core series games that does this. (Before this, Pokémon Battle Revolution did show Milotic floating in this way, but it was dismissed because of being a side game.)
+I suggest either removing "in the anime" from the relevant text, or adding Sword and Shield to the text otherwise.
+--[[User:Remiccino|Remiccino]] ([[User talk:Remiccino|talk]]) 10:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)