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[[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 14:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC) | [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 14:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC) | ||
== Can item "[[List of unobtainable items|HM10]]" be got via this glitch? == | |||
I'm not sure about it, but [[List of unobtainable items|this page]] tells me that they can be got. But in fact, there are only 251 moves in Gen II games, which means I can't get an egg whose fourth move's ID is above 251. So maybe I'm wrong, maybe that page is wrong? ——[[User:Xzonn|'''''<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">xzonn</span>''''']]（[[User Talk:Xzonn|Guestbook]]） 14:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Since nobody replied me, I'll change that page. But if I'm wrong, please tell me. Maybe there're only few players who play Gen II games.——[[User:Xzonn|'''''<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">xzonn</span>''''']]（[[User Talk:Xzonn|Guestbook]]） 04:36, 13 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I'm sorry, but I just saw this. Looking at [[List of glitch moves]], moves with index numbers 253-255 seem to be available to glitch Pokémon, and I think these can be carried over to Gen II, so I've restored that. I'm not sure about HM10 (index number 252), but there might be a method I am not currently aware of as well. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:45, 13 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::That's right, but did you notice that that page is about glitch moves in Gen I games? The only glitch Pokémon in Gen II games are [[Five question marks|?????]]s and [[Glitch Egg]], and neither can learn a glitch move. Besides, I never succeed in trading Gen I glitch Pokémon to Gen II games, so I think there is no way to get an egg whose third move's ID is above 252. Maybe you are wrong.——[[User:Xzonn|'''''<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">xzonn</span>''''']]（[[User Talk:Xzonn|Guestbook]]） 14:33, 13 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Of course there is a possibility that you are more of an expert on that subject than me. What I do know is that there's the [[Time Capsule exploit]], and that the glitch moves all have an "In Generation II" column. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:04, 13 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm just a player who loves Gen II games more. | |||
:::::I do know "[[Time Capsule exploit]]", and I did see the "In Generation II" column, but that doesn't mean players can get an egg which can use a glitch move. As you can see in "[[Egg Move]]", if one move can be got by a Pokémon in egg, the move must be an Egg Move first. But as glitch moves, these glitch moves can't be in the egg move list. So that's why I say "there is no way to get an egg whose third move's ID is above 252".——[[User:Xzonn|'''''<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">xzonn</span>''''']]（[[User Talk:Xzonn|Guestbook]]） 04:52, 14 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I think so. My knowledge on the Celebi glitch is a little rusty so I may be mistaken somewhere, but when you perform bad clone glitch exploits, you can remove the FF terminator from your party by using "move w/o Pokémon" to obtain seven Pokémon. Afterwards, depositing a Pokémon will shift one byte in a party Pokémon's data structure upwards. The ID number follows on from move 1-4 and the item held precedes move 1; so if the Trainer ID byte 1 is FC (64512-64767) depositing five Pokémon would give you a HM10 as the held item. Depositing that Pokémon once would give you the move HM10. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 14:54, 14 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I mean glitch move FC, which would have a glitchy name such as w?zzRä Z. in Crystal or a blank name in Gold/Silver, sorry. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 15:27, 14 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::I see. It seems I'm wrong, so I will correct it in Chinese wiki.But I still have a question: can I use this glitch to get a glitch Pokémon such as [[Five question marks|?????]]s and [[Glitch Egg]]? There ID is also above 251 except ?????(00), so I thought they can't be got, but as you said, "depositing a Pokémon will shift one byte in a party Pokémon's data structure upwards", so maybe I can get them? Looking forward to your reply.——[[User:Xzonn|'''''<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">xzonn</span>''''']]（[[User Talk:Xzonn|Guestbook]]） 04:50, 15 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
== HM slave Pikachu == | |||
I want to adapt this to create a surfing, flying [[Pikachu]] I can use as a [[HM slave]]. As far as I'm aware, in Generation II only one Pokémon can learn [[Surf]], [[Fly]] and [[Mega Kick]], and [[Mew (Pokémon)|it]] can't breed (why no [[Dragonite]]?), so I need to use [[Smeargle]]. The question is which Pokémon in that game have those moves so that Smeargle can sketch them. Any advice? Or am I in the wrong place entirely?--[[User:Tmwps|Tmwps]] ([[User talk:Tmwps|talk]]) 10:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
:It is probably a question better suited to the forums, although checking which Pokémon can learn the abilities by level up may very well assist you if you can find them in the wild or on Trainer teams. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 13:05, 22 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
::Can't find Mega Kick or Fly, so I'll use [[Charizard]] and teach Surf in [[Pokémon Stadium]]. Thanks anyway.--[[User:Tmwps|Tmwps]] ([[User talk:Tmwps|talk]]) 16:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC) | |||