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| {{MS|010|Ash's Butterfree}}{{MS|017|Ash's Pidgeot}}{{MS|001|Ash's Bulbasaur}}{{MS|004|Ash's Charizard}}{{MS|007|Ash's Squirtle}}<br>{{MS|098|Ash's Kingler}}{{MS|057|Ash's Primeape}}{{MS|089|Ash's Muk}}{{MS|128|Ash's Tauros}} | | {{MS|010|Ash's Butterfree}}{{MS|017|Ash's Pidgeot}}{{MS|001|Ash's Bulbasaur}}{{MS|004|Ash's Charizard}}{{MS|007|Ash's Squirtle}}<br>{{MS|098|Ash's Kingler}}{{MS|057|Ash's Primeape}}{{MS|089|Ash's Muk}}{{MS|128|Ash's Tauros}} | ||
| {{MS|131|Ash's Lapras}}{{MS|143|Ash's Snorlax}} | | {{MS|131|Ash's Lapras}}{{MS|143|Ash's Snorlax}} | ||
| {{MS|214|Ash's Heracross}}{{MS|152|Ash's Bayleef}}{{MS|155|Ash's Quilava}}{{MS|158|Ash's Totodile}}{{MS| | | {{MS|214|Ash's Heracross}}{{MS|152|Ash's Bayleef}}{{MS|155|Ash's Quilava}}{{MS|158|Ash's Totodile}}{{MS|164|Ash's Noctowl}}{{shinystar}} | ||
| {{MS|276|Ash's Swellow}}{{MS|252|Ash's Sceptile}}{{MS|341|Ash's Corphish}}{{MS|324|Ash's Torkoal}}{{MS|361|Ash's Glalie}}<br>{{MS|190|Dawn's Ambipom}} | | {{MS|276|Ash's Swellow}}{{MS|252|Ash's Sceptile}}{{MS|341|Ash's Corphish}}{{MS|324|Ash's Torkoal}}{{MS|361|Ash's Glalie}}<br>{{MS|190|Dawn's Ambipom}} | ||
| {{MS|396|Ash's Staraptor}}{{MS|387|Ash's Torterra}}{{MS|390|Ash's Infernape}}{{MS|207|Ash's Gliscor}}{{MS|443|Ash's Gible}} | | {{MS|396|Ash's Staraptor}}{{MS|387|Ash's Torterra}}{{MS|390|Ash's Infernape}}{{MS|207|Ash's Gliscor}}{{MS|443|Ash's Gible}} | ||
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–'''[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#025DA6;">Awe</span>]][[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">some</span>]][[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#025DA6;">DJ</span>]][[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">Pokémon</span>]]''' 13:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC) | –'''[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#025DA6;">Awe</span>]][[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">some</span>]][[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#025DA6;">DJ</span>]][[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">Pokémon</span>]]''' 13:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
:In my opinion, no. Since the anime most likely won't give Ash a mega stone or keystone. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 20:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC) | :In my opinion, no. Since the anime most likely won't give Ash a mega stone or keystone. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 20:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
In my opinion, yes. | |||
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 04:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Calling him not smart? == | == Calling him not smart? == | ||
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Just a small changed but, in the character, shouldn't it be that Ash got over his loss after Ritchie lost as well and talked to him about it about word, cause I highly doubt Misty was all that helpful from scolding him? [[User:Jahman|Jahman]] ([[User talk:Jahman|talk]]) 17:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC) | Just a small changed but, in the character, shouldn't it be that Ash got over his loss after Ritchie lost as well and talked to him about it about word, cause I highly doubt Misty was all that helpful from scolding him? [[User:Jahman|Jahman]] ([[User talk:Jahman|talk]]) 17:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
Hello? [[User:Jahman|Jahman]] ([[User talk:Jahman|talk]]) 19:14, 6 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I don't have any issues if you want to reword that part. I think it's a relatively important point that's worth mentioning. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:19, 6 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Noibat's egg== | == Noibat's egg== | ||
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::What I meant is that it's been a long while since it was actually seen on screen, whoops.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 19:51, 26 June 2015 (UTC) | ::What I meant is that it's been a long while since it was actually seen on screen, whoops.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 19:51, 26 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::Pikachu's Poké Ball was seen on-screen in [[XY020]] as well. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 22:05, 26 June 2015 (UTC) | :::Pikachu's Poké Ball was seen on-screen in [[XY020]] as well. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 22:05, 26 June 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Brock's Mudkip == | |||
Brock loans Mudkip to Ash in Hooked on Onix, should this be under the temporary section? [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 09:56, 6 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
: He also commanded the two Dragalge in An undersea place to call home [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 12:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Pokémon in training == | |||
The In training section of Ash's Pokémon says that "'''Some''' can be called upon at any time if needed.". Some means at least two, but not all of them, right? Since there are only two Pokémon in there (Squirtle and Primeape), I think this is not the appropriate word anymore. --[[User:Mine4017|Mine4017]] ([[User talk:Mine4017|talk]]) 14:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Once again, someone else asked a question I was going to ask. | |||
:Anyway, why does it say "If you're here to change "some" to "some of them", please don't" when there's only 2 total? Some doesn't make sense here. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:05, 14 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Pokemon Ash captured in total == | |||
its not 68 its 69 | |||
species of pokemon its 78 since Talonflame and Noibat came along unless im wrong--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Talonflame doesn't count as a separate Pokémon. In other words, Ash did not catch a separate Talonflame, it evolved from his already existing Fletchinder.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
Oh so wait | |||
So how many species of pokemon does Asyhg caught since Talonflame so its not 78.--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:06, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:It's... on the article... | |||
:"Ash currently has ownership of 68 Pokémon, including all 30 of his Tauros. Including pre-evolutions, traded, released and given away Pokémon (and not including the additional Tauros), in total, Ash has currently officially owned a total of 77 different Pokémon species."--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:13, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
So was Talonflame counted --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:20, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Yes. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 05:37, 10 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
I dont under the new info that was added | |||
The poekmon ash have evolved can you explain im trying to understand and each one--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 06:25, 17 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
Ash currently has ownership of 68 Pokémon, including all 30 of his Tauros. Including pre-evolutions, traded, released and given away Pokémon (and not including the additional Tauros), in total, Ash has currently officially owned a total of 78 different Pokémon species. Of those Pokémon, | |||
' 5 of them are non-evolutionary Pokémon. 15 of them belong to a two-stage evolutionary families, with Ash obtaining 6 of them in their fully evolved form, whilst raising 4 of them to their final form. Finally, 25 of his Pokémon come from three-stage evolutionary families, with Ash obtaining all, but 4 (1 in its final form, and 3 in their second form, 2 of whom evolved into their final form), in their first form. Of the remaining 21, Ash has evolved 4 of them into their second stage, and 10 into their fully evolved form." | |||
i dont understnsd this part can someon eexplain please --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 20:12, 29 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:If you ask me, that new part is unnecessary. Why is it even there? '''''<font color="#705898"><sub>[[Shadow Sneak (move)|Sneaking]] from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost...</sub> [[User:Gengarzilla|Gengar]][[User talk:Gengarzilla|zilla!]]'''''</font> 22:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
ok sorry but can u explain | |||
each of the pokemon that was stated of evolution--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 06:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
:The page is basically mentioning how many different Pokemon Ash owns and how many different species of Pokemon he owns. For instance, the amount of Pokemon he officially owns is 68 and previous evolutions don't count. For example, Ash's Froakie and Frogadier are counted as one, because they're technically the same Pokemon, as Froakie evolved into a Frogadier. The second list is all of the different kinds of Pokemon he owns. So for this list, the previous evolutions are included. So these Pokemon include, Pikachu, Froakie, Frogadier, Noibat, Tauros, Muk, Krabby, Kingler, Treecko, etc. The other information was just specific information on each of the captures that he has. Like how many Pokemon don't have any pre-evolutions or evolutions, how many he has captured that have already evolved and how many are apart of a two-stage evolutionary line. But those other bits of information have been deleted. Do you understand now? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:52, 30 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
no sorry | |||
15 of them belong to a two-stage evolutionary families? | |||
25 of his Pokémon come from three-stage evolutionary families? | |||
--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 07:41, 30 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Talk: Ash Ketchum Trivia == | |||
In the Trivia for Ash Ketchum, the first sentence about Ash's Gym battle rematches listed below is "incorrect" and makes no sense at all. | |||
INCORRECT: "Ash has lost at least one Gym battle in every region." | |||
He lost to Brock, Lt. Surge, Sabrina and Blaine in Kanto, Whitney in Johto, Brawly in Hoenn, Roark in Sinnoh, Lenora in Unova, and Viola in Kalos. | |||
This is incorrect because Ash had "four" rematches in Kanto, not one. He had a rematch against (1) Brock, (2) Lt. Surge, (3) Sabrina and (4) Blaine. | |||
In Hoenn, he had a rematch with (1) Brawly and (2) Norman. | |||
In Sinnoh, he had a rematch with (1) Roark and (2) Fatina. | |||
The other regions, however, are correct. | |||
Can you please fix this mistake and word it differently? If not, I would consider omitting it. | |||
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 04:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
: 'ATLEAST' means a minimum rematch at one gym in every region, which makes your point invalid [[User:Upratik 12|<I><span style="color:red">Pr</span><span style="color:blue">at</span><span style="color:green">ik_12</span></I>]] <sub>'' [[User talk:Upratik 12|<span style="color:violet">Talk</span>]]''</sub> | |||
::Upratik is right, plus Ash's first battles against both Norman and Fantina were both unofficial. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
You made your point about Norman and Fantina, but Ash had lost "more than one Gym battle in Kanto." | |||
CORRECT: "Ash has lost at least one Gym battle in every region, except for Kanto (He lost against five gym leaders in Kanto: Brock, Lt. Surge, Sabrina, Erika and Blaine). He had a rematch against (1) Brock, (2) Lt. Surge, (3) Sabrina and (4) Blaine. He did not have a rematch against Erika. She gave him the Rainbow badge for rescuing Gloom from the fire." | |||
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 17:03, 21 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Rayquaza, Latios and Latias == | |||
I know there have been a lot of discussion about weather legendary Pokémon should be added here but theses 3 dragons that appeared in the latest movie are a different case. We've always determined any Pokémon Ash has given a command to as qualifying for the Temporary section. He commanded these three to do specific moves several times and even formulated complicated strategies. In fact he even commented on it being a "battle". [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 12:49, 21 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Talk: Ash Trivia == | |||
In the Trivia for Ash Ketchum, the first sentence about Ash's Gym battle rematches listed below is "incorrect" because Ash lost "more than one Gym battle in Kanto." | |||
INCORRECT: "Ash has lost at least one Gym battle in every region." He lost to Brock, Lt. Surge, Sabrina and Blaine in Kanto, Whitney in Johto, Brawly in Hoenn, Roark in Sinnoh, Lenora in Unova, and Viola in Kalos. | |||
CORRECT: "Ash has lost at least one Gym battle in every region, except for Kanto (He lost against five gym leaders in Kanto: Brock, Lt. Surge, Sabrina, Erika and Blaine). He had a rematch against (1) Brock, (2) Lt. Surge, (3) Sabrina and (4) Blaine. He did not have a rematch against Erika. She gave him the Rainbow badge for rescuing Gloom from the fire. He lost to Whitney in Johto, Brawly in Hoenn, Roark in Sinnoh, Lenora in Unova, and Viola in Kalos." | |||
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 02:46, 27 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
:First: you already started a section for this exact same issue almost right above this. Please do not create new sections when there is no need. | |||
:Second: you say that ''"Ash has lost at least one Gym battle in every region"'' is not correct. Then you also say that ''"He lost against five gym leaders in Kanto"'' is correct. If Ash lost to five Gym Leaders, he also lost to ''at least'' one Gym Leader. | |||
:I mean no offense, but it seems your grasp of English is lacking in this area. Please trust mine as well as Upratik_12 and Playerking95's word when we tell you: the wording that you say is incorrect is ''not''. Please do not change the trivia again. If you want to continue to discuss it to attempt to understand your mistake, you may do so here; just, again, '''do not''' change that piece of trivia. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:11, 27 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Changing unofficial heading to befriended heading in the title Pokemon == | |||
I think it would be better to change the unofficial heading in the title Pokemon to Befriended. What do you think? [[User:PokemonCool|PokemonCool]] ([[User talk:PokemonCool|talk]]) 17:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I think "unofficial" is more descriptive because for the episodes Haunter and Larvitar were with Ash, they were essentially his Pokémon and he treated them as such but he never actually caught them. Ash has befriended lots of Pokémon besides just Haunter and Larvitar. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 18:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
But then we should add all the pokemon he befriended along with haunter and larvitar. [[User:PokemonCool|PokemonCool]] ([[User talk:PokemonCool|talk]]) 13:38, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Some of the Pokémon he's befriended are already under the "temporary" section. Haunter and Larvitar are special because for a time, they were unofficially a part of Ash's team. All of the other Pokémon he befriended were for the most part one-time appearances that had no lasting impact on Ash's journey. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 18:28, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Aggron is correct, Haunter and Larvitar were different cases from Ash simply using/borrowing a Pokémon for a battle or two, or for an event such as the Pokémon race he borrowed Ponyta/Rapidash for. While Ash does borrow friends' Pokémon occasionally and might already have a bond with them, they don't count as part of his actual team lineup. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:55, 24 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Questioning his age == | |||
How come on this talk page there is a big note saying not to question his age yet there is a trivia point in the page that does exactly this.[[User:Sly Fox|Sly Fox]] ([[User talk:Sly Fox|talk]]) 13:35, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:The trivia point doesn't really question anything. It only mentions facts about Ash's age, and doesn't suggest that it might be anything other than what was confirmed.--[[User:Cold|<font color="teal">Cold</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|<font color="turquoise">talk</font>]])</small> 18:43, 7 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Baron == | |||
Should this be added to his Trainer class? I didn't watch the episode, but I'm guessing he did battle as one right?-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 01:56, 25 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Yes he did. But it shouldn't be mentioned in the infobox as he has also entered several [[Pokémon Contest]]s as a [[Pokémon Coordinator]], the [[Hearthome Collection]] as a [[Pokémon Stylist]], and the {{to|Camellia}} [[Pokéathlon]] as a Pokéathlete (although I'm not sure the term was used in the anime). The Trainer class parameter is for a Trainer's true occupation, if we list everything there it will become a mess. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 02:24, 25 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Should we list of pokemon that Ash tried to catch? == | |||
It will be fun to know what pokemon he was trying to catch i forgot what were they?--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 18:32, 6 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Ash borrow Sparky == | |||
He made Sparky team up with his Pikachu to use a double thunder shock attack in the Pokemon episode 82--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:02, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Temporary and Unofficial == | |||
I know there is already a discussion about this, but couldn't Raticate be in the "Temporary" section. I also think Beedrill should be in the "Temporary" section. On James' page the Victreebel that evolved from the Weepinbell that was traded for his other Victreebel was on the "Temporary Pokemon owned by Team Rocket" page. | |||
And also the "Unofficial" section with Larvitar and Haunter is bugging me. Can we put like "Befriended" or something? {{unsigned|Dictionary}} | |||
:The distinctions between Pokémon traded away, given away, unofficially owned, and temporarily used are made quite clear on Ash's page. Raticate was actually owned by Ash for a time before he traded it away. Beedrill was also actually owned by Ash for a time before he gave it to Casey. In both cases, Ash actually owned the Pokémon; they do '''not''' belong in the temporary section because that is for Pokémon that Ash never officially owned, but instead just used for a short period of time. The case with Pokémon temporarily owned by Team Rocket is that Victreebel was, like the page's title indicates, '''owned''' by James temporarily. And no, Larvitar and Haunter will remain under the "Unofficial" section because they were, well, unofficially owned by Ash. Befriended is way too vague of a term, because Ash befriended much more Pokémon than just Larvitar and Haunter. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 02:15, 24 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== How? == | |||
How do I add pictures to Ash's pokemon? {{unsigned|Dictionary}} | |||
== Why == | |||
Why do you guys think that Goodra is with someone else, just because someone´s looking over the wetlands? You guys can´t assume that the situation in the league is gonna repeat since nothing was said, it´s showing wrong information.--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 17:30, 21 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Except it's not showing wrong informaiton. Twice in the Wetlands Ash said he will see Goodra again and it's completely possible for Ash to see it again. Sure Ash has said that he'll see lots of people again, but we can't just assume that he's lying. I'm sure if it was the final goodbye then we'd have an episode dedicated to it and we also assumed XY070 was the end for Goodra, but then it appeared during the Master Class and Ash asked it to battle with him in the Lumiose Conference in XY123. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 18:26, 21 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
Excepet that IS wrong information, do you really know how this page works? You can´t just put your suppositions in real information pages, you should make a fan page for that like shipping stuff.--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 20:21, 22 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::No, I've already said, it's not. It is under the care of someone else and there is absolutely nothing preventing Ash from calling on it again. We're not just going to assume that he's lying and will never see it again, we have to take his word for it, end of story. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 01:09, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
That´s not for you to decide, even if you own the page you not own the reason, it´s not like he promised to come back for Pidgeott, it´s just somebady else Ash promises to see again but never sees, like any character of the day, if someday it proves that Lumiose Conference is not a special ocasion THEN you put the information, ultil then i´ll let everyone know that you´re putting wrong information in the page and if you insist in that you must be banned, i discuss facts and not opinions.--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 02:14, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Goodra was released. It's speculation to think that it might come back, especially with the series coming to a close.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::It's not just for me to decide, there's other people saying it as well and what are you talking about "owning the page"? No one owns this page. In fact, wasn't Ash's promise only in the dub, and if not, it still doesn't mean that's going to be the case here. Ash said goodbye to it in XY070 and yet it returned, so if you think it's speculation that Ash is going to go back to it, then it's speculation that he won't go back to it. And as I've said, Ash promised he would see it again, so are we just going to call him a liar? Then how can we trust anything else he says? And regardless, it IS under the care of someone else. Whether or not Ash actually sees it again, that should be it's official location title, because saying it is under the care of someone else isn't saying that Ash will definitely use Goodra again or even see it, but that it is under the care of someone else. So that's not lying and Keanan can just be seen like Officer Jenny and Anthony when it comes to Squirtle and Primeape. There's no real difference, or at the very least, no big difference. And please use colon's when separating your posts and don't just hit the space keys. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 03:46, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
How much stubburn you want to be? I don´t think Ash is a liar, as long as Ash is alive he can see Goodra but not on-screen necessarily, Ash can even see Goodra in a phone chat, if you no one owns the page it should have a discussion before making changes like this, i really want to know who other people are these cause Force Fire agrees with me,and that´s the firts time, belive me, even if you don´t belive Ash is a liar you can´t make changes with so vague information.-- [[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 16:02, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:You can't really complain about stubbornness without being hypercritical here. When it comes to who else thinks this, well Blazingfist originally made it like this, so he at least thought so once, unless he still agrees with that choice and with their being other members on the forums who agree that it can still visit Ash, then I'm sure they would agree that this isn't a permanent release and even without them, I'm sure there's others and I would bet money on it. Anyway, as I've said, this isn't about whether or not Ash will see Goodra again, it's about what Goodra's location should be classified as and since it technically is with someone else like Squirtle and Primeape, the "Under the care of someone else" would fit better, because that title isn't implying that it's a permanent release or that it's not a permanent release. And I don't see how my edit was so wrong just because it was speculation, when assuming that it will never be seen again is also speculation. And finally, as a I said, please use the colon's and don't just hit space. You can see how the pattern goes by looking at other posts here and in other talk pages. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:47, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I originally put it under "With someone else" right after the episode aired because I didn't see how it was any different than Squirtle or Primeape. Unlike Pidgeot who he also promised to see again, it has returned at least once, so that's saying something. Primeape has never even returned once. And Ash still owned Goodra's Poké Ball, unless he recaught it off-screen between XY126 or XY127. That being said, Goodra did return to its home and it's unlikely that it's ever going to return. Although that is speculation either way. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:32, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
I´m not assuming that any released pokémon will never be seen again. Lapras was seen, but is still released, not under anyone else´s care, it´s not like Keanan do commands to Goodra. You say that this isn´t about released meaning Ash will not visit Goodra but when you bring the topic again it looks like it. It is good to know that someone share your point of view but we should yet discuss before make changes like this, i don´t kwon if you´re new here but even if i´m wrong i think everyone would like to discuss first before making important changes like this, Bulbapedia is a great page, it´s one of the firsts to appear when you search pokemon on google if not the first. Everyone consult it. Even myself use it for the games, and from people who like the anime i and more people would like information important like this discussed with care. That´s wrong making speculations, i said that we make these on shipping stuff, in official anime pages we work with the data that was given to us, nothing more, nothing less. I really sorry about the colons, i´m a foreigner and i didn´t undertand what tyou meant by this, i´ve been tryng to fix since you let me kwon but i compared to others and i didn´t see any colon, it becomes something in the last version of the topic?:--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 18:46, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:As a precaution, I'd like to ask anyone seeing this to remember not to edit war. There is a discussion here. So discuss it. Don't try to get your way by edit warring. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 23 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Keanan is no where near the same as Jenny or Anthony, he isn't training or caring for Goodra to make it stronger or better. If it's not about Ash seeing Goodra again, then why did you bring it up? Whether or not Ash sees it again is all speculation, but is is highly unlikely, especially with the series coming to a close. Again, Goodra isn't under the care of anyone, it just returned to its home.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 02:43, 24 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
Did Ash need to recapture Goodra to put it in Kalos League after he left Goodra in the wetlands the first time? If he didn't need to recapture it then he never released Goodra in the first place, he kept the pokeball just like he kept Charizard's pokeball after he left it at Charcific Valley. I also wondering why Greninja is also on the released list, as far as I know he is currently undergoing task under Zygarde command, he even still in Ash-Greninja state when he walk away. I also remember how Paul released pokemon in DP and releasing a pokemon is indicated by blue coloring, this indication didn't present on Goodra and Greninja, the other pokemon (Lapras, Butterfree, or Pidgeot) happen before DP so they might not have the blue coloring indicator, but Goodra and Greninja are after DP. Maybe they should have not been in the "Released Pokemon" category but "Left in the Wild" category as Ash still kept their pokeball and they are still registered in his pokedex. ([[User:Yelnats|Yelnats]] ([[User talk:Yelnats|talk]]) 12:19, 6 November 2016 (UTC)) | |||
== Ash's Alola Design == | |||
Should we change the image to Ash's alola costume or should we wait until XY ends? [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 19:35, 22 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It should wait until the series ends.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 19:38, 22 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
::alright. Does that mean this Thursdays episode or after the XYZ special on November 3rd. Because technically Ash won't be in the XYZ special. [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 08:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Ash's Kalos Pokemon == | |||
When you gonna put Ash's Kalos Pokemon into With Professor Oak Lab, when the Sun and Moon starts yes? {{unsigned|Makarov5}} | |||
:When it gets revealed, which will indeed most likely be when the Sun & Moon series begins. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 18:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Alola Picture == | |||
Who and why was Pikachu put in with it. It blocks the rest of his design. Pikachu should have it's own picture called File: Pikachu SM [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 14:24, 29 October 2016 (UTC) | |||