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Is Isshu even its English name?  Just out of curiosity.  We can't really confirm it unless we know. ----[[User:Zewis29|<span style="color:diamond">Zewis</span>]]  [[User talk:Zewis29|<span style="color:green">(2</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|<span style="color:blue">9)</span>]] 01:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Is Isshu even its English name?  Just out of curiosity.  We can't really confirm it unless we know. ----[[User:Zewis29|<span style="color:diamond">Zewis</span>]]  [[User talk:Zewis29|<span style="color:green">(2</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|<span style="color:blue">9)</span>]] 01:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
In the Trivia it says the first gym has the most leaders, 3 but doesn't the [[Cerulean Gym]] have 4, [[Daisy]], [[Lily]], [[Violet]], and [[Misty]]? ''[[User:DoTheWave|<span style="color:#A8A878;"><big>D</big>o</span>]][[User talk:DoTheWave|<span style="color:#6890F0;">The</span>]][[Wigglytuff (Jungle 16)|<span style="color:#A8A878;">Wave</span>]]'' 03:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:In the anime, yes, it does. But this refers to the games only. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


== New York? ==
== New York? ==
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::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
==Just throwing it out there Part 2==


Hey guys. Please don't argue about this here. And please don't insult other people by telling them to learn English. We don't want it and we don't care. We have a source saying that Isshu is based on NYC. That's awesome. That's all we need. If Game Freak has decided to add in extra bits from other places or even make up their own stuff that's fantastic but Isshu is based on NYC. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys. Please don't argue about this here. And please don't insult other people by telling them to learn English. We don't want it and we don't care. We have a source saying that Isshu is based on NYC. That's awesome. That's all we need. If Game Freak has decided to add in extra bits from other places or even make up their own stuff that's fantastic but Isshu is based on NYC. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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:::::::::'''ニューヨークにすごく近いんです'''
:::::::::'''ニューヨークにすごく近いんです'''
:::::::::"I feel very close to New York". This translation is complete.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 03:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::"I feel very close to New York". This translation is complete.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 03:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::So, altogether, the translation does nothing further than reinforce the point that New York is Isshu's motif? Alright then. Thank you, Sawamu! --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::: The remark of Masuda strengthens grounds of motif. Because it was a motif, the word "It is near(近い)" might have been used. If NY is a stage, it is strange to say, "It is near(近い)". [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 03:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::I don't think Masuda would use the same word twice. Motif, stage, he's a creative guy! '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::You're drawing at straws now, TTE. You know Masuda is a smart guy. If he was going to confirm the basis of Isshu at that time, he would have used words that would not be motif. In fact, the fact that he used the word motif instead of a simple Japanese word proves that he knows what it means and used it for that reason.
:::::::::::::Fix the page.
:::::::::::::NOW.
:::::::::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I really don't understand your logic here. Combine the fact the supervisors outright clarify how they've based certain locations out of specific areas in Isshu (the musicals, the bridge being based off Brooklyn Bridge, etc.) with the fact Isshu's general shape looks extremely similar to New York. If that's not enough, look at the countless U.S. cultural references in the game. Are you seriously trying to insinuate it's not based on NYC? How could it possibly be based on anything else? You say you want to go by facts, and the fact is that Masuda has attributed New York and ONLY New York as Isshu's inspiration (motif or not). That's really all we need. Get over yourself. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 05:20, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Ha. Hahahahahahahahahaaha. Ahahahahahahaha. You don't understand the logic, bub? Get a dictionary. Motif. Define it.
:::::::::::::::Actually, don't bother. I'll just quote what I've said before on TTEnchidna's talk page
:::::::::::::::"So no, they would not use the word motif to describe the land's basis. They would use the word motif. Motif, when used for Hoenn, would describe Hoenn's tropical feel. Not the terrain and not it's coastline. The terrain of all regions tend to match the terrain of their real-life counterparts. Not climates. Climates have definitely been changed. But the geographic terrain is the same.
:::::::::::::::And FYI, Manhattan does not have dual mountain ranges.
:::::::::::::::Also, just to check, do you understand the definition of the word "motif"?
:::::::::::::::Motif is to Model/Stage/Basis as is the pattern of a shirt to the shirt itself. The motif of a shirt could be anything: Tye-dye, pinstripe, plaid. But does that change the base model of the shirt? No, it doesn't. Say you grab 3 of the same shirts off a shirt making line before they go to dyeing. They're all the same color: a dull white. A blank slate. Then you proceed to dye the first shirt red, the second shirt blue and the third shirt purple. Does that change the base shirts' shape or anything? No. It changes the motif (color) of the shirt.
:::::::::::::::This can also be applied to the Pokemon series: The motif of Isshu is New York. Take away all the cities, roads and non-geographical features. What are you left with? You're left with the base of Isshu, a location with three-peninsulas , dual mountain ranges on opposite peninsulas and a lake on the middle one. Does the geographical terrain of Manhattan match up to that?
:::::::::::::::Simple answer: No, it does not."
:::::::::::::::Now the question remains, coupled with the fact that a fluent speaker of Japanese (that has to use a translator to post here in english!) has stated that, based on the article ''you provided'', there is more proof for the "motif" side than the "model/stage/basis" side when it comes to New York and Isshu, why don't you understand?
:::::::::::::::Now good night and have fun trying to prove me and the power of facts wrong. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
May I say the impression of the game of a Japanese version?
The large majority of the Pokémon Trainer of isshu has a Japanese name(It was felt that it was roughly about 70%). Because the currency was yen, it felt odd though it knew that NY had been chosen as the stage(Motif).
In a Japanese version, I think that I became making not to think that isshu is a foreign country as much as possible. However, a Japanese version is original.
I feel the motif more correct. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Consider Kanto uses Pokémon ''Dollars'' in the rest of the world. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:: A Japanese version separately treats Pokédollar and Yen. Pokédollar is adopted in Orre region of the Arizona motif. It is strange not to apply Pokédollar with isshu. If it is a city of the USA origin, the same currency as Orre might be suitable. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 10:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
@ Mackinz: I don't understand because I've repeatedly mentioned how Masuda proceeded to reveal the basis of Isshu's locations. For example, Sky Arrow Bridge IS based on New York's Brooklyn Bridge. It doesn't follow to say NY is merely the motif for Isshu when we know for certain that the BASIS of specific areas are taken from Manhattan and its surroundings. It doesn't even have to be attributed to Isshu as a whole because the facts so far demonstrate how NYC plays at least a partial role in the basis of B/W's region. Ergo, there is more factual evidence for New York than against it. As far as currency goes, it matters little since Isshu was long confirmed to have been a foreign land from its predecessors (i.e. across the sea, only reached by boat/plane, etc). [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 13:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I've also re-edited the Isshu page. Disregarding my own personal opinion on the matter, we can't say for a fact that Isshu is NOT explicitly based on New York. "Drawing inspiration" will suffice for now. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 13:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:You want me to explain Marlowe? Fine. I'll make it as simple as possible.
:Anything not geographical (elevation of land, coastline) is part of the base. Everything else (climate, buildings, road, people) is part of the motif of the area.
:Take Hoenn for example: Hoenn obviously has a tropical motif going for it. However, the climate is much different from that of Kyushu in real life. So we cannot say that Kyushu was the inspiration (basis) for the climate. That would be regulated to the motif.
:Take also the difference in population of Hoenn and Kyushu: Hoenn has way less population. Since it doesn't maintain the population, the population does not remain part of the basis. It becomes part of the motif (I.E. the low population combined with the tropical feel makes it feel like a loosely populated tropical island which, obviously, Kyushu is not).
:Now, onto buildings: Buildings are determined and built by the people living there. They also escalate the motif of the area (I.E. Fortree's Tree Houses add to the tropical feel). Since there are also a lot less buildings (similar to population), we cannot say that buildings are part of the basis because, if they did, the entire Hoenn region would not feel like a tropical island, it would feel like a city-locked island.
:Now think about it, replacing Hoenn with Isshu.
:Going to change the page back now.
:--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Now you're just twisting the meaning of basis to match your own interpretation. No, it does not have to be solely geography-based; according to the very definition of BASIS, Isshu's Sky Arrow Bridge is BASED on New York's Brooklyn Bridge. It is the foundation for it, the fundamental groundwork. Stop trying to circumvent that. As for my re-editing the Isshu page, I'm trying to at least set up a middle ground between you and I here. Unless Masuda came right out and said, "No, Isshu is not based on New York" you can't say for certain that it isn't. We both know that it at least exists as some form of inspiration. It is unnecessary and downright misleading to add any more to the page than the "drawing inspiration" bit. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 14:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:You still don't understand the meaning of motif, model, stage and basis, huh?
:Didn't I tell you to get a dictionary?
:Ah well. I'll just define them for you.
:MOTIF
:1. (5) motif, motive
:(a design or figure that consists of recurring shapes or colors, as in architecture or decoration)
:2. (1) motif, motive
:(a theme that is repeated or elaborated in a piece of music)
:3. (1) theme, motif
:(a unifying idea that is a recurrent element in literary or artistic work; "it was the usual `boy gets girl' theme"
:If that isn't enough, I'll bring out some more definitions for you.
:MODEL
:1. (19) model, theoretical account, framework
:(a hypothetical description of a complex entity or process; "the computer program was based on a model of the circulatory and respiratory systems")
:2. (11) model
:(a type of product; "his car was an old model")
:3. (6) model, poser
:(a person who poses for a photographer or painter or sculptor; "the president didn't have time to be a model so the artist worked from photos")
:4. (4) model, simulation
:(representation of something (sometimes on a smaller scale))
:5. (3) exemplar, example, model, good example
:(something to be imitated; "an exemplar of success"; "a model of clarity"; "he is the very model of a modern major general")
:6. (1) model, role model
:(someone worthy of imitation; "every child needs a role model")
:7. (1) model, example
:(a representative form or pattern; "I profited from his example")
:8. mannequin, manikin, mannikin, manakin, fashion model, model
:(a woman who wears clothes to display fashions; "she was too fat to be a mannequin")
:9. model, modelling, modeling
:(the act of representing something (usually on a smaller scale))
:BASIS
:1. (38) footing, basis, ground
:(a relation that provides the foundation for something; "they were on a friendly footing"; "he worked on an interim basis")
:2. (28) basis, base, foundation, fundament, groundwork, cornerstone
:(the fundamental assumptions from which something is begun or developed or calculated or explained; "the whole argument rested on a basis of conjecture")
:3. basis, base
:(the most important or necessary part of something; "the basis of this drink is orange juice")
:STAGE
:1. (25) phase, stage
:(any distinct time period in a sequence of events; "we are in a transitional stage in which many former ideas must be revised or rejected")
:2. (18) degree, level, stage, point
:(a specific identifiable position in a continuum or series or especially in a process; "a remarkable degree of frankness"; "at what stage are the social sciences?")
:3. (15) stage
:(a large platform on which people can stand and can be seen by an audience; "he clambered up onto the stage and got the actors to help him into the box")
:4. (6) stage
:(the theater as a profession (usually `the stage'); "an early movie simply showed a long kiss by two actors of the contemporary stage")
:5. (2) stagecoach, stage
:(a large coach-and-four formerly used to carry passengers and mail on regular routes between towns; "we went out of town together by stage about ten or twelve miles")
:6. (2) stage, leg
:(a section or portion of a journey or course; "then we embarked on the second stage of our Caribbean cruise")
:7. (1) stage
:(any scene regarded as a setting for exhibiting or doing something; "All the world's a stage"
:8. stage, microscope stage
:(a small platform on a microscope where the specimen is mounted for examination)
:You do remember that Junichi Masuda has said nothing more than "motif", correct? Now, if he '''meant''' something else, don't you think he would use the Japanese word for stage (like he did for Hoenn and Kyushu) instead of the ENGLISH word, motif?
:The fact is, no matter how you read it, Junichi Masuda and the Development team of the Pokemon series have confirmed that New York is Isshu's motif. They have not confirmed anything beyond that. For all we know, it could be explicitly based on New York. '''However''', at this point, it would be an '''assumption''' which is what I've been trying to get rid of since I started this section. ''Everyone assumes'' that New York is the basis of Isshu. ''It is confirmed'' ,not an assumption, that Isshu draws decorative inspiration (a.k.a. motif) from New York. '''''Nothing beyond that is confirmed'''''. If you continue to edit the Isshu page, I will ask Archaic to do something.
:--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I have edited the page to maintain the same words but also to make it known that we do not know if he meant "not explicitly based off of New York". Happy? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::I think you're being very unreasonable. I'll say this again. Strictly in terms of my editing the page, I'm not even claiming that Isshu is based on New York -- I'm only leaving it at the simple fact that Isshu draws inspiration from it. However, you cannot say that it isn't explicitly based on NYC because you don't know for certain whether it's based on it or not. You've clarified before that you're only trying to use the facts instead of common speculation. I agree, but the page revision shouldn't go from "Isshu is based on Manhattan, New York" to "Isshu draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York but is not explicitly based on New York". Rather, leaving it at "Isshu draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York" is much more accurate to Masuda's statement and not only sets up a reasonable middle ground between us, it also agrees with your original intention to change the article. EDIT: I suppose that's good enough, though I still find it slightly unnecessary.
::And please, cut the "LOOK AT THE DICTIONARY" crap. I've checked the dictionary and in the case of Brooklyn Bridge, the terms 'motif' and 'basis' are not mutually exclusive. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 14:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm working with the wording of the first paragraph (to include the word motif) as we speak. However, I did already edit in
:::"Like prior regions, its general layout and coastline is based upon a real-world location. It is not known where it is based exactly, but an interview with Junichi Masuda and the rest of the development team has stated "Manhattan of New York is Isshu's motif". [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/motif]
:::While the largest of its cities, Hiun City, draws heavily on the densely-populated area of Lower Manhattan, to the north, rather than more cityscape, a vast desert lies. To the west and east, there are great mountains, as well, and rather than urban areas, aside from Hiun, most of Isshu is decidedly rural."
:::Give me a few minutes.
:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I guess the neutrality will suffice for me. We'll agree to disagree on the basing of Isshu, so I'll leave the remainder of this debate to anyone else wanting to pick it up. I think it's important to note though that even if Isshu isn't based on NYC, certain areas in the region are still linguistically based off their Manhattan counterparts. So NYC does at least play a role in Isshu's basing to SOME extent, which in my opinion presupposes the Isshu = New York argument.[[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 14:56, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Marlowe, the motif of Isshu is New York. That means the '''theme''' (hey look, a synonym :D) of Isshu is New York. So of course it would maintain the things that make New York recognizable. The bridges, Huin city and the similar coastline are all there for a reason. Its all for maintaining the '''theme''' of New York.
:::::But I'm not debating the basis of Isshu here.
:::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 15:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Let me get this straight. You admit that Hiun City has many things that New York has, even has a New York theme, but you REFUSE to believe that Isshu is based on New York and are crusading that New York is simply the motif, even going to so far as to assume that the real world and the Pokemon world are interchangeable, when Hoenn has proven they aren't?--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 17:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, hey Ryuu! Nice to see you on Bulbapedia.
:::::::I refuse to believe things that aren't facts.
:::::::Fact: New York is Isshu's motif. (Confirmed by Junichi Masuda on both Game Freak's official blog and in the interview posted on Nintendo.Co.Jp)
:::::::Assumption: OMFG! That means Isshu is New York! OMG!1!
:::::::Fact: Motif means "theme".
:::::::Fact: Hoenn, when it's basis of Kyushu was confirmed, used the Japanese word for "stage".
:::::::Fact: Isshu, when the interview was first shown in PokePia, was confirmed to use the English word "motif".
:::::::Fact: Basis and Motif mean two separate things.
:::::::Fact: This page used the assumption that Motif means Basis.
:::::::Fact: Motif does not mean Basis.
:::::::My thoughts: If Junichi Masuda used the word "motif" and meant "basis", why wouldn't he use the same word he used when he revealed the basis (stage) of Hoenn to be Kyushu? The fact that he used the English word "motif" should prove he knew what he was talking about. That means that Mr. Masuda meant the word "Motif"!
:::::::So yes, I admit that Huin City has many things New York has. I never denied that Isshu uses New York as a theme. I do deny the assumption that, because Isshu uses New York as a theme, Isshu ''is'' New York.
:::::::Frankly, Ryuu, unless Junichi Masuda comes out and makes a blog saying "Yeah, we used Manhattan as the stage of Isshu", we should keep the facts straight and in the open. The fact is "We used New York as the motif of Isshu". Nothing to be taken any other way. Motif does not mean Model/Basis/Stage. It should not be taken any other way than the definition of Motif. And it should be allowed to discuss Isshu being based somewhere else because we do not have confirmation from Game Freak or Nintendo of where Isshu is based.
:::::::Am I making sense?
:::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::To be fair, Mackinz, <i>none</i> of the regions are synonymous with their real-life counterparts. Johto isn't Kansai, Hoenn isn't Kyushu, Sinnoh isn't Hokkaido, etc. They're simply based on them. While it's true Masuda used the term "motif" when describing Isshu, his context doesn't exactly set it apart as a mutually exclusive term from basis. For example, we know for certain that specific areas derive inspiration from areas in NYC in the EXACT same way other regions have a basis of specific cities and buildings in their counterparts, so I think we can safely say we have enough evidence to qualify New York being the equivalent of Isshu as Kansai, for example, is the equivalent of Johto. You're correct in saying the definitions motif and basis aren't the same, but they do have similar enough contexts in the case of <i>comparing</i> each region's confirmed area inspirations. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 19:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I'll give you that, Marlowe. But still, it is not a safe assumption at this time to assume that Isshu is New York (and it is still open because of the New York motif being able to explain a lot). So can we leave it at that? I don't have time right now to debate and argue with you. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 19:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::To quote a great U.S. President, "It depends on what the definition of the word &lsquo;is&rsquo; is." No one's saying Isshu "is" New York. We're saying it's "based on" New York. Which is true, given that motifs from New York such as the coastline, bridges, diverse culture, and lower Manhattan drive the composition of the region. You keep insisting that motif doesn't mean basis, but what do we mean when we refer to the basis of other regions? We mean that they include motifs of the real-world counterparts, including the coastline, landmarks, and cultures. Really, there's nothing separating Isshu's basis from the other regions', besides the fact that Game Freak was somewhat more open to breaks from reality (and why shouldn't they be? Unlike with previous regions, the main game staff did not include anyone native to New York, unlike with previous games.). --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 20:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay guys, please quit it with the arguing.  Isshu is based on New York, and there's really absolutely no arguing this.  The context of the interview as a whole makes it clear that Isshu is the New York as Hoenn is to Kyushu, Johto is the Kansai, etc.  The nuances you're arguing really aren't present, and if they are, it's not enough to sway Bulbapedia's scale of "what makes X based on Y."  So shut up and stop arguing, or else you are subject to a temporary block for insubordination.  Thanks. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 02:46, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
==Outdated Notice?==
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Is this article really outdated or is this just one of the spams. I'm going to remove it but if it isn't please put it back for me. ([[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 14:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC))
:Yeah, it is outdated. Black and White have been released and the article needs to start looking like other region's pages now. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 20:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
i updated this to the format like the other regions and it was removed!--[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 19:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:No you didn't. You replaced content with stuff that was already lower on the page. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 20:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
== New Map of isshu. ==
http://up3.viploader.net/game/src/vlgame026784.jpg
It is isshu map of the ANIME version. It confirmed it by 001 stories. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Good idea, but could you find a better picture?--[[User:Si6x12|<span style="color:#B01406;">'''Si6'''</span>]][[User Talk:Si6x12|<span style="color:#083DA7;">'''x12'''</span>]] 15:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
::I obtained this image by chance. I'm sorry for being not able to offer a high-quality image. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 16:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I would add it.--[[User:Si6x12|<span style="color:#B01406;">'''Si6'''</span>]][[User Talk:Si6x12|<span style="color:#083DA7;">'''x12'''</span>]] 20:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
== A guess on Etymology ==
Well I'll get the silly one out of the way: *'''Un'''*ited States *'''of A'''*merica. It makes me think of general Japanese style shortening like *'''Poke'''*tto *'''Mon'''*suta. I knew the region was based on USA, so I figured the localization was done since it's a "home turf" based decision like how the Japanese regions stayed untouched. I was expecting the other localizations to use Unova, but my guess on the method sort of works for the others. The following are what respective speakers call USA. French: États-*'''Unis'''* (Unys) German: Ver*'''ein'''*igte Staaten (Einall) My stab in of "ein" is probably improper but it does mean one, and "all" may be aus*'''ahl'''*. I've come across "allein" which can refer to "single". Italian: Stati *'''Uni'''*ti d'America (Unima). The "ma" may refer to ris*'''ma'''*. I'm lost with the Spanish localization, I don't see any links at all. "United" is fairly enough though, since a literal USA basis is silly, but hey it works haha. I'm not going to bother comparing decisions made with Orre. [[User:Deadpool|Deadpool]] 09:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:Somehow I REALLY doubt it comes from United States of America. It's just too much of a stretch to assume NoA cherry picked syllables and letters from the location's basis when that's never been done before, even in the Japanese games. I think it's just derived from the meaning it has in Japanese, "one variety". Uno, one, and -va, for variety. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 13:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I actually doubt they'll say what it stands for (if it even is an acronym of something). No one can say for sure and all we can do is just speculate which provides no real evidence. Maybe this should be a forum topic to further discuss on on what people can guess the name stands for? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 18:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
== Bridges ==
In an interview on G4tv.com, Junichi Masuda expressed his fascination with bridges, especially the Golden Gate bridge which closes resembles some of the bridges in Unova; would this be worth adding to the Trivia?  I don't know how to add a reference.  [[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise; font-family:Arial">'''T a r o m o n'''</span>]] 13:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like it would be relevant to put in one of the bridge articles, like Sky Arrow. I would wait for a higher up to aprove though. as for the references, i'm not sure either. [[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]]19:40, 8 February 2011 (EST)
== Alternative region translation? ==
I don't know if this is the correct place to put this, but here goes...
I was looking in my local GAME store (London, UK) today when I noticed the following on a display box: "Explore the new region of Alleos, and save it from the nefarious plans of Team Plasma. The Alleos region also contains two version-exclusive areas depending on which version of Pokémon the player owns - White Forest and Black City". However, both the Nintendo of Europe and GAME UK websites use Unova. Has anyone else seen this region name, or does anyone know of an explanation for it? It wasn't just on one box either, I checked several (and got some odd looks from the shop staff)
[[User:Imair|Imair]] 00:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=95403 This has already been discussed on the forums.]  —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 00:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
== Unova trivia ==
Should it be stated that Unova is the first region name not to have a long o sound? --[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 22:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:It's already there. Look again. [[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 22:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Doesn't that depend on how you pronounce it? [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::It's pronounced (you-nuh-vuh) in the English version. --[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 22:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::: I pronounce it (u-nOva), but that doesn't mean either of us are right.  [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Snivy was referring to how it's pronounced in the Anime, in which case it would be "you-nuh-vuh." [[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 22:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Like Gliscorguy54 said, no one is either right. Not even the anime. Anybody can pronounce it however they want to. :/ --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 22:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Oh I know. :P [[M12|I know that all too well...]]. I just thought their source should be mentioned. [[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 22:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::The official pronunciation is the official pronunciation, it wasn't how I was saying it till I saw BW001 but I know now that I was wrong and it is in fact (you-nuh-vuh) (if that's how you want pronounced spelling as (doesn't matter)) "Note that all Bulbapedia's information must come from official sources" - the anime is pretty official in my book &mdash;[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>&mdash; 23:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't watch the anime. I'm not going to let the anime dictate how I should pronounce every names in the Pokemon fandom. Sorry. :/ --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::All I mean is that it's our job to relay the official details for readers. not decide how to pronounce things and the official line is (you-nuh-vuh), say it how you like I was saying it the previously assumed way too but I prefer it the new way (it just never occurred to me). the anime is an official source weather you watch it or not, the trivia still stands &mdash;[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>&mdash; 03:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::Even the most recent Black and White version commercials in North America pronounce it (you-nuh-vuh)--[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 04:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::Hate to break it to you, but the anime is dubbed by TPCi, the company that gives the games their English names. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is the official pronunciation. Not to mention that's how it is pronounced in the Black and White promos. It's official, No Ifs Ands or Butts. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
==Locked==
Why is the Unova article locked?? --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 05:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
== Battle Frontier ==
Isn't it wrong to say that Unova is the only region without a battle frontier as a battle frontier always comes in the 3rd version of the game("Grey")? [[User:Icy|Icy]] 18:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:No it isn't wrong to say that because the third version hasn't even been out or even confirmed. Just wait till we get an official confirmation, which'll take several years. :] --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::Orre would like to say hello :P [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:::It is the only main series region. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
:According to THIS website, Orre is also a main series region. So yeah, it's wrong. You should change it, unless you're cool with giving people false information.{{unsigned|Tokeupdude}}
:: Orre isn't a Main series region, it is a spin-off region. As listed in the template below the article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#444444">'''F'''</span>]][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#858585">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''F'''</span>]][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#D8D8D8">ire</span>]] 06:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
:Then how come when you look up any Pokemon's game locations Colosseum and XD are listed under the main games section and not side games? For example, I'm looking at Fearow's page right now and both Colosseum and XD are under main games Gen 3. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 10:16, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
::Nevermind! Orre is a side-region to the main series and the others are "spin-off" regions. I get it now ;) [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
== Location? ==
Does anyone know where Unova is located, like North of Hoenn, or East of Johto? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 02:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:It's location from the other main series regions is not yet known. All we know for sure is that it is FAR away from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. My best guess would be that it is both east and west of the other regions, just like how the United States (or NYC in this case) is both east and west. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
== Castelia population ==
Shouldn't it be unknown? Endless people walk up and down the streets in some areas. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:The population of Castelia is static people only. The endless people are excluded. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
== Contest in the Trivia  ==
Should This be add this in the trivia?
:Only Region without a Pokémon Contest.
Are we allowed to change the TRIVIA or is it still the Admin?[[User:Taposa|Taposa]] 14:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
:What do you mean? It isn't true. Kanto and Johto are anime only. Then there are the Orange Islands, Sevii Islands, Orre etc. None of those have contests. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 14:47, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
::I meant in Games.[[User:Taposa|Taposa]] 15:58, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
:::As Solar Dragon said, Kanto and Johto don't have contests in the games.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Yes, and Orre and the Sevii Islands haven't been seen in the anime so they don't have contests in either canon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
== Only region outside of Japan?  ==
:"Unova is the only main series region to be based on a real-world region outside of Japan."
What? Are we forgetting about Orre, based on Phoenix, Arizona? --[[User:ChReNiC|ChReNiC]] 23:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
:It's on side series now. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
::The [[Battle Zone]] in Sinnoh is based on Russia, and it is referred to in game as a region (or sub-region, like the Sevii's). <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 23:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
@Ataro I think one of the problems is that Colosseum and XD are still listed as main series games on the game template. If it is side series now the template needs to be changed accordingly. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 23:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
:::The bulk of the region is still based on Japan, ALL of UNOVA is not. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 06:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes that's nice, but what about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Main_series the template?]. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 16:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::First, don't be rude. Second, it was already stated that it hasn't been changed yet. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 21:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry if I came off as rude, but when was that stated that it hasn't been changed yet? There was no response to the initial question I brought up. At least not on this talkpage. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 22:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::About that template, if Colosseum and XD are moved or removed because they are side series, then the same will have to be done for Stadium, Box, Ranch, ect. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 22:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Then those should be removed as well. They are not main series games and it's very misleading for them to be listed on the template. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 00:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
== another trivia? ==
unova does not have any pokemon blocking the player's progress. kanto has snorlax, johto has sudowoodo, hoenn has wailmer (blocking lilycove city preventing the player from surfing) and sinnoh has psyduck blocking the road due to headache. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:I think that's worth adding. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
== Black and White 2 Coro Coro Leaks ==
Is it worth adding a section for Hiougi City yet?
Also, the information about Unova being covered in ice is not confirmed; translations seem to suggest that it is the map covered in ice a la the clouds covering the initial Unova reveal, rather than the region itself being covered. [[User:Exterminieren|Exterminieren]] 20:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Exterminieren
:Until further information is revealed, the admin team have decided to crackdown on speculation until more information is discovered. Thus the protection on a number of pages. Sort of related to the clouds, like you mentioned. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 06:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
== BW2 ==
May an administrator please add in the intro paragraph that it is also the setting of Black and White 2? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 18:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 18:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
== Image label ==
Could an admin add that the picture in the info box is for Black 2/white 2 to clear confusion up? If it's not necessary, fine.[[User:Bulbasect|Bulbasect]] 13:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
== The Ice layer ==
I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it, but are we certain the ice actually covers the land, and doesn't simply obscure our view of a secret? --[[User:NotSteve|<span style="color:navy;">'''Not'''</span>]][[User talk:NotSteve|<span style="color:maroon;">''S'''''teve''' 0_o</span>]] 20:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
:No, we are not certain. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 23:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
The Black 2 and White 2 website says that Unova really is frozen over due to some freak incident. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] ([[User talk:Pikatwig|talk]]) 09:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
== Remove ice covering speculation  ==
May an administrator please remove the part about the ice actually covering the region in the Between Pokemon Black and White and Black and White 2 paragraph. That's speculation. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
:Hello? Can an administrator please remove that speculation? It's really not supposed to be there. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 23:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
::The ice is confirmed to be fake. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 01:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Where was that confirmation? Most sites have translated the official site as saying that the ice is from an accident in the rural areas....that makes it sound real. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 05:21, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
== Trivia Issue ==
The trivia section states that "Unova is the only region without an actual or former Rock-type Gym." However, Johto did not have one either, though its neighbor, Kanto, did. I thought it'd be better to bring it up here rather than edit it out because there may be a reason for having that in the article that I am unaware of...or something like that. [[User:CrimsonCerberus|CrimsonCerberus]] 20:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:That's why it says "or former". Jasmine is stated in the Johto games to have been a rock specialist gym leader until her Onix evoled into a Steelix and she changed to Steel. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 21:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
== Non-icy B2W2 ==
Has any such map yet been released? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
== Unova Nationality ==
Despite it being heavily implied that Unova is far away from the other regions (with the reset route system and being based on New York), something came to my attention stating otherwise. In BW2 Crasher Wake tells the player that "Everyone says I'm a wrestler from abroad, but the truth is... I was born and raised in the Sinnoh region! It's what they call my gimmick!" It seems that Unova is undeniably in the same country, and likely way way closer to the other regions than Japan is to America. Should there be something added to the page to reflect it's nationality? --[[User:MicManGuy|MicManGuy]] ([[User talk:MicManGuy|talk]]) 11:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:I'm parsing that as "Everyone (in Sinnoh), says I'm a wrestler from abroad", not "Everyone (here) says I'm a wrestler from abroad.  It really doesn't say much of anything about say anything about the closeness of Unova to other places.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 14:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah but he's not in Sinnoh. He's in Unova when he says that. If Sinnoh is really "abroad" relative to Unova, it wouldn't just be a gimmick, it'd actually be true. --[[User:MicManGuy|MicManGuy]] ([[User talk:MicManGuy|talk]]) 16:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
== False trivia ==
Unova is not the only region without a Rock type gym, Johto didn't have one either. [[User:Shanicpower|Shanicpower]] ([[User talk:Shanicpower|talk]]) 09:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:It says "an actual or former". Jasmine was a former Rock-type trainer before she became a Steel-type trainer. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 10:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
== Unova Map of Sequels instead of the First Games? ==
I apologize if this has already been discussed - I couldn't find it in this talk section. But I noticed that the main image for the page uses the region map from the original Black and White games, with the Black/White 2 map being slightly lower down in the article. Shouldn't it be the other way around, seeing as the BW2 map has more locations and is more 'current' within the Pokémon world?  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 01:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:While this should be the case, we do not have a proper image of Unova showing all the new locations from BW2. The only images of BW2 Unova have the ice covering the eastern portion of the map or labels all over the place. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 03:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::I was talking about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Unova_B2W2_alt.png this BW2 image] as compared to the [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/42/Unova_alt.png current one]. Is that BW2 one a problem as it's at a slight angle or the like?  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 04:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it's not a proper image. It's angled, it's shaded oddly, and it doesn't show the whole region. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::::Ah, that makes perfect sense then. It's a shame Game Freak have never released the full, non-icy version of the image. It's odd as well since what can be seen of the BW2 map is basically the first Unova map but with a few added changes. The closest image I can find to what it might of looked like is [http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/134/8/f/unova_region_full_map_by_jcferggy-d7ibhxw.jpg this], which is a Photoshop of both maps together so it looks like the ice is removed. It's actually really well done considering!  --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 04:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
== Besuto Uisshu ==
Do you not think that it is a coincidence that, with Japanese pronunciation and spelling, "Wishes" in "[[Best Wishes series|Best Wishes]]" is pronounced and spelled almost the same as "Isshu" in "[[Unova|Isshu-chihō]]"? [[User:Torr3|Torr3]] ([[User talk:Torr3|talk]]) 14:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
== B2W2 map ==
There is a full B2W2 map at http://im.ziffdavisinternational.com/ign_de/screenshot/default/einall-s2w2_wn21.jpg
It should replace File:Unova_B2W2_alt.png [[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 15:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for replacing the angled one with the one on there and PokéWiki. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 10:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
== B2W2 Exclusive Locations ==
I think we really should explicitly emphasize the fact that some locations in Unova are exclusive to B2W2. I know it is already said/implied here and there, but the information is diffuse and, if you don't know it already, hard to come by.


== Mewtwo Returns ==
When looking at a route's or a city's page, if it is exclusive to B2W2, you end up having to deduce it from the lack of information about BW, instead of having a sentence saying it right away.


Since Isshu is apparently based on New York City, and at the end of [[Mewtwo Returns]], Mewtwo is standing on a building in plain view of the Empire State Building, do you think there's any chance that perhaps Mewtwo will make another appearance in the anime or a special?  That would be pretty neat! [[User:JoeMoron2000|JoeMoron2000]] 01:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
We should do like it's done, for example, in Emerald exclusive locations, where there is a sentence in the first paragraph saying the location only appears in Pokémon Emerald. [[User:Suic12-|Suic12-]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 15:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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