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== "Persian" == | |||
Should "Persian" in this article link to the general Pokémon page, or specifically Giovanni's Persian<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:MTC|MTC]] ([[User talk:MTC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MTC|contribs]]){{ #if: |  {{{2}}} |}}''</small> | Should "Persian" in this article link to the general Pokémon page, or specifically Giovanni's Persian<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:MTC|MTC]] ([[User talk:MTC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MTC|contribs]]){{ #if: |  {{{2}}} |}}''</small> | ||
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It's still a specific Persian. I mean, sure there's not much we can say about it, but it's there as a symbol of power. Like Dr. Claw's cat. Or Dr. Evil's cat. --BGJ. | It's still a specific Persian. I mean, sure there's not much we can say about it, but it's there as a symbol of power. Like Dr. Claw's cat. Or Dr. Evil's cat. --BGJ. | ||
== Meowth accent == | |||
"Oily in the morning"? Wasn't it "Early in the morning" just in Meowth's accent?<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: |  {{{2}}} |}}''</small> | "Oily in the morning"? Wasn't it "Early in the morning" just in Meowth's accent?<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: |  {{{2}}} |}}''</small> | ||
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:Like hell it doesn't. I've made the necessary changes. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 23:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | :Like hell it doesn't. I've made the necessary changes. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 23:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Remember [[EP070]]? "Don't think there's a California in Pokémon", uh huh. Okay, there's no China either, despite it being mentioned ''time after time''. No South America. If there's no California, there's none of the other crap. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | ::Remember [[EP070]]? "Don't think there's a California in Pokémon", uh huh. Okay, there's no China either, despite it being mentioned ''time after time''. No South America. If there's no California, there's none of the other crap. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 00:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::I'm missing the point. Are you saying that there ''is'', in fact, a California in the Pokémon world? Or are you saying that that's crap and that I was correct in removing it? Sorry if I don't understand your reference to [[EP070]], but I don't watch the anime. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | :::I'm missing the point. Are you saying that there ''is'', in fact, a California in the Pokémon world? Or are you saying that that's crap and that I was correct in removing it? Sorry if I don't understand your reference to [[EP070]], but I don't watch the anime. --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Yes, Hollywood is an important place to Meowth, but according to the flashbacks in that episode, he was inspired to head off to Hollywood after seeing a movie. After all, the episode's dub title is '''''Go West''', Young Meowth''! Simply put, my [[$1|2¢]] on this action: Right action, wrong reason. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ::::Yes, Hollywood is an important place to Meowth, but according to the flashbacks in that episode, he was inspired to head off to Hollywood after seeing a movie. After all, the episode's dub title is '''''Go West''', Young Meowth''! Simply put, my [[$1|2¢]] on this action: Right action, wrong reason. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::Well, where do you consider your hometown to be? Where you were born, or where you grew up? Meowth may not have been born in Hollywood, but he certainly learned to talk, read, walk... and so on there. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | :::::Well, where do you consider your hometown to be? Where you were born, or where you grew up? Meowth may not have been born in Hollywood, but he certainly learned to talk, read, walk... and so on there. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 03:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Yea, I would say that Hollywood was Meowth's hometown. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 13:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | :Yea, I would say that Hollywood was Meowth's hometown. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 13:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Okay, but it still doesn't sound right. Not that i'd know cause i'm not American. GT4GTR | Okay, but it still doesn't sound right. Not that i'd know cause i'm not American. GT4GTR | ||
IDK if Meowth is from California. I thought he was living in a dance place in Kanto before he was taken by Jessie and James.<span style="background:#000000;"> | IDK if Meowth is from California. I thought he was living in a dance place in Kanto before he was taken by Jessie and James.<span style="background:#000000;">[[User:Shinylucario|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''''Shiny'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Shinylucario|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''''Lucario'''''</span>]]</span> 12:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
In one episode (mayby EP070) they say we're going to '''''HOLLYWOOD''''' <<Key word. IDK if they said California... | In one episode (mayby EP070) they say we're going to '''''HOLLYWOOD''''' <<Key word. IDK if they said California... | ||
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 12:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 12:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Well, the only Hollywood of any significant meaning is the one in California. It's like when saying "Chicago", does anyone think I come from [[wp:334 Chicago|an asteroid]]? <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | :Well, the only Hollywood of any significant meaning is the one in California. It's like when saying "Chicago", does anyone think I come from [[wp:334 Chicago|an asteroid]]? <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
::The problem, though, is that Hollywood, California, is several MILES away from Kanto (almost on the other side of the world, if we use real life terms), A ship taking them to it would be far TOO long (especially since they had to train for the Pokemon League, which was beginning in almost a month away from that episode.), they didn't mention taking an airliner at all (In fact, they seemed to take a van to it), and more importantly, I don't think Hollywood, California, the '''real''' one is... well... is almost a nuke zone (the buildings looked like they were attacked by the aliens from ID4. I mean, even the Hoovervilles seemed more lively than the Hollywood in that episode.). So it's more likely they meant a similar named town with similar filming industry than the ACTUAL Hollywood. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC) | ::The problem, though, is that Hollywood, California, is several MILES away from Kanto (almost on the other side of the world, if we use real life terms), A ship taking them to it would be far TOO long (especially since they had to train for the Pokemon League, which was beginning in almost a month away from that episode.), they didn't mention taking an airliner at all (In fact, they seemed to take a van to it), and more importantly, I don't think Hollywood, California, the '''real''' one is... well... is almost a nuke zone (the buildings looked like they were attacked by the aliens from ID4. I mean, even the Hoovervilles seemed more lively than the Hollywood in that episode.). So it's more likely they meant a similar named town with similar filming industry than the ACTUAL Hollywood. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Pikachu has been in every episode except the special episodes (Pokemon Chronicles), but Meowth does. Since Meowth appeared in the second episode, would his inclusions to the chronicles episode make his appearances in the anime be more than Ash's Pikachu, or tie, or am I forgetting Meowth wasn't in a few episodes after EP002? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 23:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | Pikachu has been in every episode except the special episodes (Pokemon Chronicles), but Meowth does. Since Meowth appeared in the second episode, would his inclusions to the chronicles episode make his appearances in the anime be more than Ash's Pikachu, or tie, or am I forgetting Meowth wasn't in a few episodes after EP002? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 23:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Meowth's Ability | ==Meowth's Ability== | ||
Meowth isn't picking up things--though he hasn't win any battle--expect for that cheating on Brock's Onix for the right to Togepi. I am assuming Meowth's ability is Technician--as he is usually on that made the gadgets and mecha for his care-takers, Jessie and James.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Thinksan}} ([[User talk:Thinksan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thinksan|contribs]]) ''</small> | Meowth isn't picking up things--though he hasn't win any battle--expect for that cheating on Brock's Onix for the right to Togepi. I am assuming Meowth's ability is Technician--as he is usually on that made the gadgets and mecha for his care-takers, Jessie and James.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Thinksan}} ([[User talk:Thinksan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thinksan|contribs]]) ''</small> | ||
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: In one of the episodes, I think [[BW044]], Jessie says "what's gone is gone" when talking to James about Meowth. This doesn't prove that he won't return to Team Rocket, but It at least supports he really was fired. We should move this article.[[User:Catboy41|thanks, Catboy41.]] 15:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | : In one of the episodes, I think [[BW044]], Jessie says "what's gone is gone" when talking to James about Meowth. This doesn't prove that he won't return to Team Rocket, but It at least supports he really was fired. We should move this article.[[User:Catboy41|thanks, Catboy41.]] 15:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
::Did you read my comment? He won't be in [[BW049]], so he can't be with Ash & co. anymore.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:56, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | ::Did you read my comment? He won't be in [[BW049]], so he can't be with Ash & co. anymore.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:56, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::Doesn't mean he leaves the group. Maybe he finally allowed Iris to catch him. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 15:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::Exactly. People keep saying wait it out, wait it out, but it keeps streching it out longer and longer. It could be November before we get any real conclusion. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 16:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::Just because Meowth doesnt appear in that episode doesnt mean he's rejoined Team Rocket. He probably doesnt appear because of some unknown reason. You cant simply assume that just because he doent appear it means hes gone back to Team Rocket. I say we wait it out before making any conclusions. And were probably not even certain Meowth doesnt appear. That episode hasnt aired in Japan yet. [[User:Mr.Anonymous|Mr.Anonymous]] 21:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::I think we should keep it where it is. Even if Meowth dosen't return to Team Rocket, he should still keep the title. I mean, he was on Team Rocket for most of the anime, and most people will associate him as such. That is why it needs to stay the same. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 00:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::What people associate him as =/= fact. Even if people still associate Meowth with Team Rocket, the fact remains that he was fired, and is thus NOT associated with Team Rocket anymore. I was under the impression Bulbapedia differentiated between opinion and fact. Opinion: Meowth is still associated with Team Rocket. Fact: He was fired. Canned. Given the boot. Read my fax. When stuff like this happens, pages are moved accordingly. When Misty's Togepi evolved, the page was moved to [[Misty's Togetic]], even though people still associate it as being that cute little Togepi that Misty always carried around. To keep it at "Misty's Togepi" would have been, quite simply, inaccurate. It's the same thing here. Meowth is no longer with Team Rocket; ergo, to keep the page at "Meowth (Team Rocket)" would be inaccurate. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 00:37, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Well, then why does pages like [[Team Rocket trio]] still exist? If he was fired, then he isn't part of it anymore, and thus it isn't a trio. It dosen't really make that much sense. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 00:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Many of the team rocket pages are outdated and need to be updated accordingly. Someone needs to make a decision on this '''soon''' because this debate will never end. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 00:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::@SuperAipom7. We DON'T know if Meowth really ''was'' fired from Team Rocket. For all we know it could be a setup. Until we have confirmation. I think Bulbapedia wants to keep it as Meowth(Team Rocket). And the ONLY reason Togepi was moved to Togetic was because we KNEW that Misty's Togepi evolved. [[User:Mr.Anonymous|Mr.Anonymous]] 00:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::But like Missingno. said it's speculation to assume he wasn't fired. One of Bulbapedia's "rules" is no speculation in articles. So why does this get an exception?? [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 00:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::We're not moving it yet. It's not official. Like Pokemaster97 said, no speculation. Also, it's going to be a lot of hassle if we move it now and realize it goes to Team Rocket later. --[[User:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#66FF00">'''☆Yoshis'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''World☆'''</span>]] 00:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::Even if we move it to Meowth (anime), it would still technically be true because he is an anime character. However, we should still probably keep it. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:green">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:purple">Wanna chat?</span>]])''</small> 01:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::: Until We get confirmation Meowth WAS/WASN'T actually fired, I think we should leave it. [[User:Mr.Anonymous|Mr.Anonymous]] 01:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::: Actually, didn't Jessie mention "What's gone is gone" to James in reference to Meowth in one of the more recent episodes? Sure, it might not 100% confirm that Meowth won't return to Team Rocket, but it at least supports that Meowth was indeed fired. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:58, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::: What's unconfirmed about this? The episode was aired was it not? [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#50C878;">'''P'''</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|<span style="color:#FFA6C9;">'''F'''</span>]] 18:35, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::::: It hasn't been officially confirmed that Meowth being fired from Team Rocket was a hoax. Jessie could've been saying that to make it look like he was actually fired. For all we know Giovanni could've planned this. [[User:Mr.Anonymous|Mr.Anonymous]] 21:38, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::::: Oh guys. '''We've had this discussion before.''' And it always ended with us not moving it yet. Well, if you want to see what the head of anime thinks about this, talk to {{u|Kenji-girl}}. ''And yet,'' we've already seen up there in a past discussion that she doesn't want to move it. --[[User:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#66FF00">'''☆Yoshis'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''World☆'''</span>]] 21:54, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::::::: Okay... Can someone please explain what she would have to gain about trying to lie about Meowth's status of being fired: namely, Mr. Anonymous? I mean, correct me if I am mistaken, but I don't think Ash and Co. were even nearby when Jessie said this to James, so I don't see why she'd have to lie to make it seem as though Meowth's termination of employment was legitimate. Plus, given Team Rocket being a lot more serious now, I don't see how they'd even break the fourth wall, either. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::::::: That's because it's for the viewers. Shows do this all the time to try and trick us into thinking what's happening (Meowth's being fired) is actually happening so it be a big shocker when the truth finally comes out. It's been done many times before. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:31, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::::::::Well, if they are going to do this, they'd better give a darn good in-universe explaination as to why Jessie and James acted that way. It might work out-of-universe, but what I care about is why it happened in-universe, which is significantly different. To give you an example, the out-of-universe explaination for why they had Severus Snape appear to be the one going after the Sorcerer's Stone (or for those outside America, the Philosophers' Stone) and kill Harry Potter was as a red herring for the readers until the plot twist. In-universe, the explainations for the evidences were that he was trying to counter Quirrel's attempt to kill Harry, and he was injured by Fluffy when he attempted to stop Quirrel from entering the passageways. Besides, considering the fact that Rugrats had Angela Pickles practically gloating out of earshot of the rugrats that she intends to essentially grow the watermelon seed in Chuckie's belly while the other rugrats are attempting to prevent it from growing, I don't see why they wouldn't do something similar with Meowth/Team Rocket? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::::::::::I have to agree with you in many ways. But still. I'm not in charge of the anime, I'm not in charge of anything at all. But, as I've said before, ''WE'RE NOT MOVING IT YET.'' Also, nobody seems to care much about the Team Rocket trio page, I'm not seeing much of a discussion as this. We're all concerned about Meowth, yet, the same thing will have to happen with that page. --[[User:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#66FF00">'''☆Yoshis'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''World☆'''</span>]] 00:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::::::::::::I just think you guys are overthinking this, it takes one second to move an article. If its a hoax, then it'll take one second to move it back. [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#50C878;">'''P'''</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|<span style="color:#FFA6C9;">'''F'''</span>]] 01:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
: [http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/Digigirl10/wwwdotuporg2024122.jpg There, Meowth is back in Team Rocket.] Discussion, can we consider it 100% dropped? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 09:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:: Well, I guess that's that. I hope that they at least explain ''in-universe'' why Jessie mentioned "What's gone is gone" to James, because, tricking the viewers or not, it still doesn't make sense in-universe. Had I been writing the show, I would have made absolute certain that that tidbit was also explained in terms of in-universe explainations. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 14:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
Or [[BW046]] not try to use [[Quick Guard]]? This could add to the Moves Improvised.[[User:Pawel10s|Pawel10s]] 12:54, 15 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
::: So now that we know Meowth is back with Team Rocket. It should stay [[User:Mr.Anonymous|Mr.Anonymous]] 21:26, 15 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
Okay, okay. Settle down everyone! Since I was the one who originally started this article, I can end it as well, which is exactly what I'm going to do. Here's why I'm doing that: | |||
1. There are far too many comments that detract from the meaning of the article itself. | |||
2. I originally made this article to state my opinion and the reasoning behind it, not to make a chatroom. If you want to do that, go to the Forums or a Social Networking site to do so, not here. | |||
3. I just read that in the last line in the "In the Anime" section on the mainspace article that, and I quote, "However, in BW047, it was revealed that Meowth's being fired was fake and all just another one of Team Rocket's schemes." That means that I was wrong, I admit it, and that there is no need to make this article any longer than it already is. If you still don't believe me, that's your own problem and you should just wait for the dub of the episode in the language(s) you speak. | |||
Thanks for contributing to this article nonetheless! And now, I pronounce this article <span style="color:#FF0000">DEAD</span>. Thanks for making this an extremely comprehensive article though! Have a nice day! | |||
〜'''[[User:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:orange">'''Pikachu'''</span>]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|<span style="color:blue">'''9000'''</span>]]''' 21:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Are you sure that's when it was confirmed== | |||
are you sure it wasn't confirmed until where no Togepi has gone before? It was probably confirmed before that.[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 02:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, that episode was when it was confirmed: Meowth was successfully hit by an {{m|Attract}} from a female Togepi. Other times before that are '''pure speculation''' based off behavioral patterns. Genders must be explicitly stated or shown (like with Attract), anything else does not count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::but the episode article says that it was confirmed prior to that episode.[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 03:41, 12 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::It means earlier in the episode, not before the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::oh,well,why were they hit before pikachu and piplup were?[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 20:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::::What about that episode where it was in love with Meowzie? I thought that confirmed its gender. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:30, 12 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::::No it wasn't, not that I recall. That's just basing it off behavioral pattern. The act of attraction is not the move attract.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:23, 13 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== can't we just do this == | |||
can't we just dismiss any pokemon that debuted in the gen 1 anime as genderless?[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 15:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:It's not that big of a deal. Meowth's gender has already been confirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Couldn't that be the anime contradicting its own rules? [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::What? The gender rule is a rule ''we'' have. It's ''our'' policy that genders must be explicitly confirmed among other things. It's not a rule made by the anime. The anime can do whatever it wants.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:32, 14 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm talking about when attract hit Meowth. The anime could've contradicted its own rules when Attract hit Meowth.[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 16:17, 14 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::::What rule does it have? It doesn't have any rules. It did what the move does in the game, makes Pokemon of the opposite gender infatuated. It's not a big deal.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 17:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::::The anime has stated that attract works only on the opposite gender. It also contradicts its own rules sometimes, such as Aipom being told to dodge and counter with {{m|Focus Punch}} when it's been explained before that the Pokémon needs to concentrate a moment without being disturbed to be able to use the attack. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] {{unsigned|Pikachu210}} | |||
:::::::Yes, Attract in the anime works the same way as the game. What has been contradicted for that to be "wrong"? Also, the anime tends to forget the things that have happened in the past. It's... not that big of a deal.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::::::But The anime contradicts its own rules sometimes.[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 01:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Attract has always worked the same way it does in the games, that anime hasn't done anything to contradict that.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:14, 2 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Meowth in Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee == | |||
Did Meowth speak human language in said game or was his dialogue mainly cat sounds (Mrawr)? Was going to add that in the section.[[User:TheGreenBeetle|TheGreenBeetle]] ([[User talk:TheGreenBeetle|talk]]) 07:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC) | |||