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::There's a story told in BW, which says, there were two kings of Unova, with a single royal dragon, which split into seperate dragons once they started to fight over their ideals. Look at Kyurem, not just is it weaker stat/moveset wise than Reshiram and Zekrom, it also looks weakened. While Reshiram and Zekrom have generators (producing warmth, hence Fire and Electric) on their tails, Kyurem does not. Instead his tail looks like a plug. No generator=cold, hence Ice. This is genious. --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 14:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | ::There's a story told in BW, which says, there were two kings of Unova, with a single royal dragon, which split into seperate dragons once they started to fight over their ideals. Look at Kyurem, not just is it weaker stat/moveset wise than Reshiram and Zekrom, it also looks weakened. While Reshiram and Zekrom have generators (producing warmth, hence Fire and Electric) on their tails, Kyurem does not. Instead his tail looks like a plug. No generator=cold, hence Ice. This is genious. --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 14:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
Some people say Kyurem came from a comet, some say that it's the corpse of the Original Dragon. I believe that both are true, and that the comet people believe to have brought Kyurem struck the leftover shell of the Original Dragon, infusing Kyurem with its Ice powers (comets are made from space dust and ice) and reviving it. [[User:Slate Orchid|Slate Orchid]] 21:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Eye Colors == | == Eye Colors == | ||
Should it be added to the trivia that the eye colors of the Tao Trio allude to the three original versions' colors? (Red for Zekrom, Blue for Reshiram, and Yellow for Kyurem?)-- [[User:Swagmander|Swagmander]] 22:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | Should it be added to the trivia that the eye colors of the Tao Trio allude to the three original versions' colors? (Red for Zekrom, Blue for Reshiram, and Yellow for Kyurem?)-- [[User:Swagmander|Swagmander]] 22:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
:I wouldn't be so sure. The absolute original versions were Japanese Red and Green, with the third version being Blue. It might be worth a mention that they correspond to the colours of the original english/western versions though? [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 15:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC) | :I wouldn't be so sure. The absolute original versions were Japanese Red and Green, with the third version being Blue. It might be worth a mention that they correspond to the colours of the original english/western versions though? [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 15:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
::There are 4 games, not 3. Maybe they did it referring to Outside of Japan games. | |||
I added it to the trivia. It may be removed if it seems irrelevant at this point, but if Kyurem becomes the mascot of the third version in Gen V (as it most likely will) the yellow eyes will further prove a tie to the first gen colors, as Yellow was a third version. | I added it to the trivia. It may be removed if it seems irrelevant at this point, but if Kyurem becomes the mascot of the third version in Gen V (as it most likely will) the yellow eyes will further prove a tie to the first gen colors, as Yellow was a third version. | ||
-- [[User:Swagmander|Swagmander]] 03:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC) | -- [[User:Swagmander|Swagmander]] 03:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::I don't think the eye colors are referencing each other in a circle at all. Remember that it is not really an all out trio; it's more like Reshiram and Zekrom are a duo, and Kyurem is more of a standout in the middle(this applies with the other 670 BST+ "trios" as wel as the "Kami trio"). If anything, Reshiram's blue iris and black(as opposed to white) sclera are a reference to Zekrom's blue electricity and black color, while Zekrom's red iris and white sclera (the pupil is still black, but I think the pupil always has to be black in most cases) reference Reshiram's white color and fire. It's unknown what Kyurem's yellow eyes allude to(note that parts of Kyurem glow yellow a little when it does it's animation in Pokedex 3D).[[User:SunFlareO0|SunFlareO0]] 15:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Similar Name Endings == | == Similar Name Endings == | ||
Is it worth noting that the trio have 'Ram', 'Rom' and 'Rem' as the ends of their names? They seem too similar for it to be pure coincidence. Perhaps it shouldn't go into the Trivia without providing some sort of reason for this, but maybe it's worth researching? I've looked around and can't find any explanation myself. --<i>--[[User:Valkyria|<span style="color:Purple">Valkyria</span>]]</i> <small>''([[User talk:Valkyria|<span style="color:Gold">Talk</span>]])''</small> 23:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC) | Is it worth noting that the trio have 'Ram', 'Rom' and 'Rem' as the ends of their names? They seem too similar for it to be pure coincidence. Perhaps it shouldn't go into the Trivia without providing some sort of reason for this, but maybe it's worth researching? I've looked around and can't find any explanation myself. --<i>--[[User:Valkyria|<span style="color:Purple">Valkyria</span>]]</i> <small>''([[User talk:Valkyria|<span style="color:Gold">Talk</span>]])''</small> 23:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Elemental fangs and punches == | |||
Is it important to add on the travia that the tao trio members share their secondary types with the elemental fangs and punches? | |||
*And burn, paralysis and freeze from their types resemble tri attack. Nickvang 12:12 2 july 2011 | |||
== God Stone? == | |||
Should the [[God Stone]] be noted in this article? It is an [[List of dummied out items|unobtainable]] key item in Black/White that is probably related to Kyurem, like the Dark Stone and Light Stone being related to Reshiram and Zekrom respectively. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 04:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Do you have any proof that it's related to Kyurem? <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 04:53, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
There is no proof that I know of, but it seems related because of its name and appearance. It could be added as trivia. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 05:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:While it most likely is, you'll just have to wait a few months/years if ever it really is. <span style="font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%">[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|<span style="color:#303030;">-tc</span>]][[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#e03828;">²₆</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#303030;">tc</span>]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|<span style="color:#e03828;">26-</span>]]</span> 05:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
Yes, so may I add it as trivia? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 18:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I say no. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 18:44, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Speculation is not allowed. Until there is proof, it must not be added. Ask again when you have proof. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 18:50, 8 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Protection== | |||
After noticing that the recent bad edits are the result of speculation from the new games, I think this page needs to be recommended for protection to deal with any potential bad edits and therefore decrease the need to revert them. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 07:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Trio master == | |||
Apparently Kyurem was the trio master, '''This is not offense''', but I don't think some could be stupid enough not to understand/know this. True story. The whole page should be edited by now --[[User:Acellutor|Acellutor]] 11:19, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:We need further proof before we can acknowledge Kyurem is the master of the Tao trio, it doesn't matter if it "looks like" it is, we are based on ''facts'', not speculation; therefore, the Tao trio does ''not'' have a master until proving otherwise. ''Ad hominem'' statements aren't arguments nor proof. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 11:36, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::The base stats total of both Reshiram and Zekrom is 680, Kyurem's is 660. Unless the new forms are stronger, Kyurem is the trio's inferior. [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 21:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::It doesn't look like the trio master, '''It is the trio master'''. That was too obvious to agrue. You're gonna wait until Nintendo/Game Freak confirm Kyurem is the trio master? Which I bet 100% they will. Oh wait, they never mention such thing fron Generation 1 lol. I repeat, this is not speculation, Kyurem is the trio master. That's an obvious fact. And I acknowledge that this isn't my wiki either, so I'll leave out for some other guys to edit "Kyurem is the trio master" for about next six months or so. Thanks for all of your wonderful and stupid statements. --[[User:Acellutor|Acellutor]] 04:53, 14 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Let me give you an example of why we shouldn't take things for granted. Remember when the Unova starters were released? [[Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number#Number of starters|I assumed]] Snivy would be #494 in the [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number#Generation V|National Pokédex]], considering what the other gens gave us, and {{p|Victini|guess what happened}}? We, as a wiki aren't supposed to act and pretend things are settled and are supposed to confirm as soon as official information appears on the internet or any other media. We, as a wiki, are neutral and will not post speculation under any circumstances. We, as a wiki assume good faith and are a community. We do not insult fellow users, so I'd appreciate it if you knocked that off. Kyurem, unless proven otherwise, will remain to ''not'' be the Tao Trio master. Thank you. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 05:51, 15 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::I think it's pretty obvious that Kyurem is the Trio master now.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 22:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Overdrive == | |||
Each member of the trio has an overdrive mode where the powers of their moves become much more powerful. This seems somewhat important, so should there be a section or at least a mention here about it? [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] 18:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Stat Comparisons. == | |||
We should not just be showing one form of Kyurem at a time for the stat comparison. We should show all 3 because they are very different. [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:52, 13 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
I second that, the Creation Trio has that going on. Show the functionally 5 members of the trio in both moveset and stat comparations. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] ([[User talk:Eriorguez|talk]]) 05:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Kyurem's formes Battle Music difference == | |||
Is there any difference between Black and White Kyurem's battle music? If there is, we should probably make note of it in the trivia section. [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] ([[User talk:MatchMaster|talk]]) 22:25, 22 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== B/W "true story"? == | |||
From the "Myths" section, could it be said that Pokemon Black is the "true story", seeing as N, who is fighting for his '''ideal''' world, catches Zekrom, who sides with the brother who followed his '''ideals'''? | |||
This could also be extended to your character as well, seeing as N was deceived into thinking everyone abused their pokémon and didn't care about them, but you fought for the truth, which would correspond to Reshiram. | |||
[[User:Iamjagman|Iamjagman]] ([[User talk:Iamjagman|talk]]) 15:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Zekrom Base Stat Listings == | |||
I've noticed that the chart lists Zekrom's Speed is listed as 95, despite being 90, so I went to edit this. However in the data, it is actually listed as 90, but it shows 95 when I try and preview it. I tried changing Zekrom's speed to different numbers, but they all display as 95, whatever the number I input. The Base Stat Total is changed in the preview, but the speed stat remains 95. Anyone know how to fix this? [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 19:55, 21 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:There was an error in the coding of the template itself, it should be fine now.--[[User:Cold|<font color="teal">Cold</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|<font color="turquoise">talk</font>]])</small> 20:30, 21 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== "Confirmed" trio master == | |||
"It is so far the only Legendary trio with no confirmed trio master." If I remember correctly, the term "Trio master" is just fan-made; I mean is there any Legendary Pokémon that's ever been ''confirmed'' to be a trio master? If not, should the statement be fixed? Or should we make Kyurem to be their trio master, base on the next "According to... Landorus" part? And in relation to that part, is it worth adding that the only way to encounter Kyurem in ORAS is to have both Reshiram and Zekrom in the party, like some other trio masters in some games (especially Landorus in ORAS, since it also require Soaring to a Mirage Spot)? Thanks for your help! --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 10:58, 22 March 2015 (UTC) | |||