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:I'm pretty sure your rival's level goes up because you beat the Elite Four 20 times. Or something like that. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure your rival's level goes up because you beat the Elite Four 20 times. Or something like that. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


His levels increase by ten after you become a 20-time champion (i.e. beat the crap of of Cynthia 20 times) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 12:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
His levels increase by ten after you become a 20-time champion (i.e. beat the crap of of Cynthia 20 times) '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup> 12:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


:In theory, this makes him the strongest NPC trainer ever! Even stronger than [[Red (game)|Red]]! --[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:In theory, this makes him the strongest NPC trainer ever! Even stronger than [[Red (game)|Red]]! --[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


Well, that's because he trains and Red doesn't ^^; [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 11:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, that's because he trains and Red doesn't ^^; '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup> 11:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


:First of all, in case you are under the impression that his team reaches level 100, that is false. The game data puts his ''final'' team in the 68-74 range, with his starter at level 74. This means that Pearl's team is below that of Green (Blue's Japanese name and English name in the context of FireRed and LeafGreen), whose starter manages to reach level 75 post-Sevii Islands (the minimum level on his updated team is 72). Next in line is Steven, whose Metagross makes it to level 78 in Emerald (the minimum level is 75). Last but not least (and the first chronologically) is Red, whose Pikachu remains the highest-leveled Pokémon at 81, surpassing even wild Arceus. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 11:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:First of all, in case you are under the impression that his team reaches level 100, that is false. The game data puts his ''final'' team in the 68-74 range, with his starter at level 74. This means that Pearl's team is below that of Green (Blue's Japanese name and English name in the context of FireRed and LeafGreen), whose starter manages to reach level 75 post-Sevii Islands (the minimum level on his updated team is 72). Next in line is Steven, whose Metagross makes it to level 78 in Emerald (the minimum level is 75). Last but not least (and the first chronologically) is Red, whose Pikachu remains the highest-leveled Pokémon at 81, surpassing even wild Arceus. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 11:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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I don't mean to start edit war with Matt, but he insists to replace the current image with pic 2.
I don't mean to start edit war with Matt, but he insists to replace the current image with pic 2.
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Decide for which you think is better. I say pic 1. '''<span style="color:#E3E3E3">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Decide for which you think is better. I say pic 1. '''<span style="color:#E3E3E3">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
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::::::If I may interrupt again... Leaf's name is listed here: http://www.upokecenter.com/games/fireleaf/fltrainers.php as "Player Leaf". It also lists the Rival as "Terry", but Blue's name was used in GSC, so he has a "better name" than something dredged up from the game's programming.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 23:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::If I may interrupt again... Leaf's name is listed here: http://www.upokecenter.com/games/fireleaf/fltrainers.php as "Player Leaf". It also lists the Rival as "Terry", but Blue's name was used in GSC, so he has a "better name" than something dredged up from the game's programming.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 23:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Still, if a recent proposal to go through with this "Pearl" to "Barry" move does indeed go through, which I hope it does not, then that would be a pretty stupid move.  If we were to go through with that, then we'd have to move "Blue" to "Gary" on the exact same token.  Games =/= anime, people!  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Still, if a recent proposal to go through with this "Pearl" to "Barry" move does indeed go through, which I hope it does not, then that would be a pretty stupid move.  If we were to go through with that, then we'd have to move "Blue" to "Gary" on the exact same token.  Games =/= anime, people!  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Dude, there's way more evidence that points to his name being Barry than Pearl. It was the first choice in both Diamond and Platinum, and (even though the anime doesn't count for too much) it was also his anime name. If Dawn's name is the same in both game and anime, then Barry is most likely the same. As for Blue, there's one key evidence that points to his name...they freakin said that was his name in Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver. That's really all the proof we need, but lets not forget that that was also the first choice in Pokemon Red and Yellow. --[[User_talk:Kirby Phelps (PK)|Kirby Phelps (PK)]] 2:17, 8 March 2010
::::::::Dude, there's way more evidence that points to his name being Barry than Pearl. It was the first choice in both Diamond and Platinum, and (even though the anime doesn't count for too much) it was also his anime name. If Dawn's name is the same in both game and anime, then Barry is most likely the same. The only evidence for his name being Pearl, is that if a name isn't chosen in Diamond, his name'll be Pearl. But it's crappy evidence in my opinion because in Pearl, his name'll be Diamond, and in Platinum it's either one. As for Blue, there's one key evidence that points to his name...they freakin said that was his name in Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver. That's really all the proof we need, but lets not forget that that was also the first choice in Pokemon Red and Yellow. Anyway, I'm glad the decision was finally made to change his name to Barry. --[[User_talk:Kirby Phelps (PK)|Kirby Phelps (PK)]] 2:17, 8 March 2010
 
== Platinum Backsprite ==
 
I noticed that the DP backsprite is on the page, however his Platinum backsprite is not there. It needs to be added. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|<sup>talk</sup>]] 18:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
==Tag Battle==
 
I just realised! Does no one have data on his team for the tag battle with Volkner and Flint? Could someone find it and stick it up maybe? It might be the same as his Survival Area team but Idk. [[User:Lucadan|<font style="color:#1874CD;">'''''Lucadan'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Lucadan|<sup style="color:#003F87;">'''''(Talk)'''''</sup>]] 14:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
==Pearl==
 
Shouldn't there be a link to Pearl from the Adventures on this page since he's a counterpart to Barry? --[[User:Ggb81|Ggb81]] 02:22, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
:Um..there is. In fact I see two of them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 
==Teams==
Is there a reason Barry has a seperate page for his D/P teams? It seems a little... odd. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 22:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
:Due to the number of teams that rivals have in each game, their pages can exceed the template include size in only a small number of games with the current templates. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 02:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
::.....I didn't quite get all of that last bit. The teams won't all fit on his page? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 18:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes. Each page can only have a certain number of templates, and there are a lot of templates buried in the party tables. So if you have too many, it exceeds the limit, and any further templates past the limit stop working. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Okay, I understand. Thank you for explaining! :) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 03:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 
== Quotes ==
 
I am about to restart my Platinum game, and help with the quotes, but I do not know which one to edit in. There are 2, but they seem to be the same. Are they different depending on game?
Which one would be Platinum quotes? [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:21, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
:The quotes sections are subsections of the game sections. And yes, some of them at least are different because different stuff happens. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 06:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
::So which one would I edit in? Just to be sure [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 23:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
:::In the Platinum section. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 00:36, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 
== Tag Battles ==
 
his list of teams in platinum doesnt list the battles in which he's your partner. [[User:Gzig|DimensionBreak Gzig]] 09:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:Exactly, I'm surprised. Since I don't have the means to retrieve the information on his tag battle team, I'll go ahead and put in an incomplete template for now. [[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428">'''Hax'''</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646">'''or'''</span>]][[Special:MyContributions|<span style="color:#800517">'''us'''</span>]] 12:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 
== Relatives ==
Well, I'm not sure, but I think that Professor Rowan is Barry's grandfather. You can see in the quotes of Canalave Library that he calls Rowan "gramps" about three times.
Can anyone confirm it? Then it could be added to the infobox of both Barry's page and Rowan's pages. [[User:Suic12-|Suic12-]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 02:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
:Gramps is something that is often used to refer to an elderly man regardless of relation, so it really doesn't necessarily mean they're related. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 02:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 
== Anime counterpart ==
 
"Unlike rivals for the Generation II and III games, who have had only cameo appearances at best, Barry has a major anime counterpart, an honor held by no game rival since Blue."
What about May? She was a traveling companion to Ash in the anime, wasn't she? That holds a bigger honor than an occasional appearance as a rival.
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