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region=[[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Orre]], [[Sinnoh]], [[Unova]] |
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A '''Move Deleter''' (Japanese: '''わすれオヤジ''' ''Forgetting Man'') is the opposite of a [[Move Reminder]]. For no charge, they will make a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} forget a [[move]] it knows.
A '''Move Deleter''' (Japanese: '''わすれオヤジ''' ''Forgetting Man'') is a person who, for no charge, will make a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} forget a [[move]] it knows. They are the counterparts to the [[Move Reminder]], often found in the same location.


This is the only way for a Pokémon to forget [[HM]] moves such as {{m|Cut}} or {{m|Fly}}, besides using the {{pkmn|Day Care}}. In order to delete an HM move, one must first have another Pokémon with that same move in order for it to be deleted. This is done so that a player will not get stuck in an area where an HM move is required to continue. In addition, a Pokémon's move will not be forgotten if it is the only move it knows.
==Uses==
A Move Deleter's only restrictions are that they cannot make a Pokémon forget the last move it knows and, in {{game|Emerald}}, they cannot make a Pokémon forget {{m|Surf}} if that Pokémon is the only one in the player's [[party]] or [[Pokémon Storage System|PC]] that knows the move.


The Move Deleter's service was also used in the [[Generation II|second generation]] games to delete moves exclusive to the second generation so that Pokémon could be traded to [[Generation I]] games via the [[Time Capsule]]. Similarly, a Pokémon in [[Generation III]] must first forget its HM moves before it can be transferred to [[Generation IV]] via [[Pal Park]], and a Pokémon in Generation IV must forget its HM moves before it can be transferred to [[Generation V]] via the [[Poké Transfer]].
Those restrictions aside, the Move Deleter is the only way for a Pokémon to forget [[HM]] moves such as {{m|Cut}} or {{m|Fly}} besides exploiting the {{pkmn|Day Care}}. This is particularly useful for transferring Pokémon from Generations {{gen|III}} or {{gen|IV}} to the following generation via [[Pal Park]] or [[Poké Transfer]], since Pokémon cannot know any HM moves when they are transferred.
 
The Move Deleter's service was likewise useful in the [[Generation II]] games to delete moves exclusive to the second generation so that Pokémon could be traded to [[Generation I]] games via the [[Time Capsule]].
 
In Pokémon XD, the Move Deleter is also responsible for helping [[Michael]] with an issue involving the [[Move Reminder]], who is also located at Mt. Battle with the latter: if any of his Pokémon already have four move slots occupied, then the Move Reminder cannot reteach the Pokémon a forgotten move unless the Move Deleter helps to erase a move. Unlike the Move Reminder, the Deleter's service is free of charge.


==Locations==
==Locations==
Move Deleters can be found in the following locations:
Move Deleters can be found in the following locations:
* [[Blackthorn City]] in [[Johto]]
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* [[Fuchsia City]] in [[Kanto]]{{sup/3|FRLG}}
! style="background:#F2C4DF; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Region
* [[Lilycove City]] in [[Hoenn]]
! style="background:#F2C4DF" | City
* [[Mt. Battle]] in [[Orre]]
! style="background:#F2C4DF; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Location
* [[Canalave City]] in [[Sinnoh]]
|- style="background:#fff"
* [[Mistralton City]] in [[Unova]]{{sup/5|BW}}
| [[Kanto]]<small> ({{gameabbrev3|FRLG}} only)</small> || [[Fuchsia City]] || House next to Pokémon Center
* [[Pokémon World Tournament]] in [[Unova]]{{sup/5|B2W2}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto]] || [[Blackthorn City]] || House west of the Poké Mart
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn]] || [[Lilycove City]] || House east of the Department Store
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Orre]] || [[Mt. Battle]] || Lobby, man on the top bench on the right
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh]] || [[Canalave City]] || House south of Pokémon Center
|- style="background:#fff"
| rowspan=2 | [[Unova]] || {{gameabbrev3|BW}}: [[Mistralton City]] || House east of the Pokémon Center
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}: [[Pokémon World Tournament]] || Second stall from the southwest
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Kalos]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[Dendemille Town]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | House northeast of the Pokémon Center
|}
 
==Sprites==
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| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #CF288C; background: #F2C4DF; width:96px" | [[File:Move Deleter DPPt OD.png]]
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| Overworld sprite from<br>{{color2|000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen}}
| Overworld sprite from<br>{{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}
| Overworld sprite from<br>{{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Overworld sprite from<br>{{color2|000000|Generation V}}
|}
 
==Quotes==
===Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal===
:''"Umm… Oh, yes, I'm the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. I can make <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> forget moves. Shall I make a <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> forget?"''
::'''No:''' ''"No? Come visit me again."''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc>?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"That <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> knows only one move."
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"Which move should it forget, then?"'' (After choosing a move:) ''"Oh, make it forget <move>?"''
::::'''No:''' ''"No? Come visit me again."''
::::'''Yes:''' ''"Done! Your <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> forgot the move."''
 
===Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald===
:''"Uh... Oh, yes, I'm the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. I can make <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> forget their moves. Would you like me to do that?"''
::'''No:''' ''"Come again if there are moves that need to be forgotten."''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> should forget a move?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"<Pokémon> knows only one move so it can't be forgotten…"
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"Which move should be forgotten?"'' (After choosing a move:) ''"Hm! <Pokémon>'s <move>? That move should be forgotten?"''
::::'''No:''' ''"Come again if there are moves that need to be forgotten."''
::::'''Yes:'''
::::*In Emerald, if the move is {{m|Surf}} and the Pokémon is the last one that knows it:
:::::''"Hm! Your <Pokémon> doesn't seem willing to forget <sc>Surf</sc>.
::::*Otherwise:
:::::''"It worked to perfection! <Pokémon> has forgotten <move> completely."''
 
===Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen===
:''"Umm... Oh, yes, I'm the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. I can make <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> forget their moves. Would you like me to do that?"''
::'''No:''' ''"Come again if there are other moves to be forgotten."''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> should forget a move?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"<Pokémon> seems to know only one move…"
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"Which move should be forgotten?"'' (After choosing a move:) ''"Hm! <Pokémon>'s <move>? That move should be forgotten?"''
::::'''No:''' ''"Come again if there are other moves to be forgotten."''
::::'''Yes:''' ''"It worked to perfection! <Pokémon> has forgotten <move> completely."''
 
===Pokémon Colosseum===
(if talked to before defeating Dakim)
:''"This is a distinguished place of training for honorable trainers! What is the meaning of this outrage? Those attackers... how dare they attack others without any regard for the rules? They're failure as trainers! But anyway... Uh... Oh, yes, I'm the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. Don't be shocked, but... I can make <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget their moves. Would you like me to do that?"''
(if talked to after defeating Dakim but before the first Mt. Batte challenge)
:''"Good, good! Well done, you, a trainer whose heart is just and pure! Stay on the path of the just and good. But that's that, and this is this. Uh... Oh, yes, I'm the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. Don't be shocked, but... I can make <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget their moves. Would you like me to do that?"''
(if talked to after the first Mt. Battle challenge)
:''"Ah, you two! You've come for the <sc>Mt. Battle</sc> challenge? Very impressive! But anyways... Uh... Oh, yes, I'm the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. Don't be shocked, but... I can make <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget their moves. Would you like me to do that?"''
::'''No''': ''"Come again if there are other moves to be forgotten."''
::'''Yes''': ''"Which <sc>Pokémon</sc> should I make forget a move?"''
::*If a Shadow Pokémon is selected:
:::''"Hmmm... I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there's nothing that I can do for this <sc>Pokémon</sc>. Would you like me to make a different <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget a move or two?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"<Nickname> seems to know only one move. Would you like me to make a different <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget a move or two?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move (after choosing a move):
:::''"Hm! <Nickname>'s <move>? That move should be forgotten?"''
::::'''No''': ''"All right. Which move should be forgotten?"''
::::'''Yes''': ''"It worked to perfection! <Nickname> has forgotten <move> completely."''
::::''"Are there any other moves to be forgotten?"''
:::::'''No''': ''"Come again if there are other moves to be forgotten."''
:::::'''Yes''': (opens move list)
 
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===
:''"My name is the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>. Like my name suggests, I can make <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget their moves. Well, lad? Should I make your <sc>Pokémon</sc> forget any moves?"''
::'''No''': ''"Come see me if you would like any of your <sc>Pokémon</sc> to unlearn moves."''
::'''Yes''': ''"Which <sc>Pokémon</sc> should I make forget one or more moves?"''
::*If a Shadow Pokémon is selected:
:::''"Hmm... I'm sorry, lad, but that <sc>Pokémon</sc> is too much for me to handle. Should I make a different <sc>Pokémon</sc> unlearn its moves?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"Hmm... Your <nickname> seems to know only one move. I can't make it unlearn that. Should I make a different <sc>Pokémon</sc> unlearn its moves?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"Fine. Now, which move should be deleted?"'' (After choosing a move:) ''"Hmhm. Your <nickname>’s <move> should be forgotten?"''
::::'''No''': ''"Fine. Now which move should be deleted?"''
::::'''Yes''': ''"There! A clean sweep! Your <nickname> has completely forgotten how to use <move>."''
::::''"Would you like it to forget any other move?"''
:::::'''No''': ''"Come see me if you would like any of your <sc>Pokémon</sc> to unlearn moves."''
:::::'''Yes''': ''"Fine. Now which move should be deleted?"''
*If trying to have the [[Move Reminder|Move Teacher]] teach a fifth move to a Pokémon:
:''"Say now youngster! You mustn't ask the impossible. That <sc>Pokémon</sc> knows all the moves that it can learn. That is unless I, the <sc>Move Deleter</sc>, make it forget a move. Now which move will be forgotten?"''
 
===Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver===
*When the player first{{tt|*|He will not repeat this intro until the player exits and re-enters his house}} speaks to him:
:''"Umm… Who did you say I was again? ... ... Oh, yes, I remember now! I'm the Move Deleter!"''
*After his intro or when the player speaks to him subsequently:
:''"You've come to make me force your Pokémon to forget some moves?"''
::'''No:''' ''"Remember me if there are moves that need to be forgotten."''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which Pokémon should forget a move?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"That Pokémon knows only one move, so it can't be forgotten..."'' (Returns to Pokémon selection screen.)
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"OK, then. Which move should be forgotten?"'' (After choosing a move:) ''"Hm! The move <move>? Should that move be forgotten?"''
::::'''No:''' (Returns to "Which Pokémon [...]?")
::::'''Yes:''' ''"It worked perfectly! Your Pokémon has forgotten the move <move> completely."''
 
===Pokémon Black, White, Black 2, and White 2===
*When the player first{{tt|*|He will not repeat this intro until the player exits and re-enters his house}} speaks to him:
:''"Er... Who was I again? ... ... Oh, that's right! I am the Move Deleter!"''
*After his intro or when the player speaks to him subsequently:
:''"You've come to make me force your Pokémon to forget some moves?"''
::'''No:''' ''"Remember me if there are moves that need to be forgotten."''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which Pokémon should forget a move?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"That Pokémon knows only one move, so it can't be forgotten..."'' (Returns to "Which Pokémon [...]?")
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"OK, then. Which move should be forgotten?"'' (After choosing a move:) ''"Hm! The move <move>? Should that move be forgotten?"''
::::'''No:''' (Returns to asking which move.)
::::'''Yes:''' ''"It worked perfectly! Your Pokémon has forgotten the move <move> completely."''
 
===Pokémon X and Y===
*When the player first{{tt|*|He will not repeat this intro until the player exits and re-enters his house}} speaks to him:
:''"Er... Who was I again? ... ... Oh, that's right! I am the Move Deleter!"''
*After his intro or when the player speaks to him subsequently:
:''"You've come to make me force your Pokémon to forget some moves?"''
::'''No:''' ''"Remember me if there are moves that need to be forgotten."''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which Pokémon should forget a move?"''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"That Pokémon knows only one move, so it can't be forgotten..."'' (Returns to "Which Pokémon [...]?")
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"OK, then. Which move should be forgotten?"''
:::*After choosing a move:
::::''"It worked perfectly! Your Pokémon has forgotten the move <move> completely."''
 
===Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire===
*When the player first{{tt|*|He will not repeat this intro until the player exits and re-enters his house}} speaks to him:
:''"Uh… Oh yes! I'm the Move Deleter! I can make Pokémon forget their moves."''
*After his intro or when the player speaks to him subsequently:
:''"You’re here so I can make your Pokémon forget a move, um-hmm?"''
::'''No:''' ''"Remember me if there are moves you need to, um, have forgotten!"''
::'''Yes:''' ''"Which Pokémon will that be, hmm?"''
::*If an Egg is selected:
:::''"Hrmmp? I’m fairly certain that, um, Egg doesn’t know any moves."''
::*If the selected Pokémon only knows one move:
:::''"Um, that Pokémon only knows one move. Hrmmp, I can’t make it forget its only move..."
::*If the selected Pokémon knows more than one move:
:::''"Which move do you want forgotten, hrmmp?"''
::::*After choosing a move:
:::::''"Charming! It worked perfectly! Your Pokémon has completely forgotten how to use <move>!"''


==Trivia==
==Trivia==
* All of the Move Deleters are characteristically forgetful (some even temporarily forgetting who they are), which is a reference to their Japanese name.
* All of the Move Deleters, excluding the one in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, are characteristically forgetful (some even temporarily forgetting who they are), which is a reference to their Japanese name.
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==In other languages==
{{langtable|color=E693C5|bordercolor=CF288C
|zh_cmn=技能遺忘爺爺 ''{{tt|Jìnéng Yíwàng Yéyé|Move-Forgetting Man}}''
|fr=Effaceur de Capacités
|de=Attacken-Verlerner
|it=Eliminamosse<br>Cancellamosse
|ko=기술 잊기 ''{{tt|Gisul Itgi|Move Forgetter}}''
|es=Quita-Movimientos
}}
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