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No, I'd heard it. I'd have to look it up. But I don't think she was a princess, though, which may be what throws people off--BJG
No, I'd heard it. I'd have to look it up. But I don't think she was a princess, though, which may be what throws people off--BJG
I think the [[wp:Hel (being)|Hela]] argument is the best one, considering its Japanese name ends in "ela", which I don't think many people spotted. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Searching around the Japanese Wikipedia implies that they only call her Hel (ヘル) (in Japan), though.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 21:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


==Saudi Arabia==
==Saudi Arabia==


It should be noted in the article that Pokémon is completely banned in Saudi Arabia. I would avoid placing the mention in the "Jewish Plot" area since that is not (to my knowledge) the justification given by the Saudi government.
It should be noted in the article that Pokémon is completely banned in Saudi Arabia. I would avoid placing the mention in the "Jewish Plot" area since that is not (to my knowledge) the justification given by the Saudi government.
== About the controversy section... ==
Ok, I just wanted to mention that something about this section seems... off, Could someone mention the part of sexism in the anime? I feel that this should be mentioned because i noticed quite a bit of it, especially in AG and DP in how the main girls act. In fact even in the first season there were slight traces of sexism (Though not in the main female) in the series, one infamous example is Beauty and the Beach, but another, little-known example is in [[EP052|Princess vs. Princess]] when they had almost every single girl (with the sole exceptions of Misty and Jessie) in the store (and even the contest hall) squealing like animals at least twice, and at most three times (one of which had Ash, Brock, Pikachu, James, And Meowth being trampled by those... Airheads like Mufasa with the wildebeest stampede). I know this one is an awful sexist stereotype because a relative of mine commented on it being awful and disliking it when she saw it, heck, at least 2 of my classes in my school agreed with me when i brought it up as part of a project. so, with your permission, i'd like to add these tidbits into the article.
:This is more about controversy from outside voices than controversies that only arise within the fandom. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
umm... my relative IS an outside voice, and possibly some of my classmates who aren't exactly part of the forums.
~~Weedle_McHairybug~~
...Or were you meaning that we can only cite controversies that are within the fandom? because if that's what you were meaning, then most of these things REALLY have to go. Take the Jynx thing, that technically wasn't an "in-fandom" controversy (at least, not to the same extent that the VA Change or even Misty being removed from the main cast was), and yet that one is counted as a controversy. Same deal with the satanism controversy, the Uri Geller fine, the swastika/manji controversy, "Pokemon Kills", Pokemon TCG = Gambling, or the Jewish Plot = Pokemon Controversy. and anyways, it is also a controversy within the fanbase since I also have at least one person on serebiiforums and a few others who agree with me, or at the very least understand where I am coming from. So this is the rationale as to why I think it should be implemented.
~~Weedle_Mchairybug~~
:No, he means controversies outside of the fandom. Controversies inside the fandom are usually on the articles' pages, this stuff's about people who likely never played a Pokémon game and are just yelling about it being horrible because they're a bunch of not-our-generation people. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 21:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
well, now that i know that he was Indeed meaning that we should mention only non-fandom sources, I'll go back to my original statement of "umm... My relative, as I have said Before, IS outside of the fandom since she doesn't really play the Pokemon Games. So i figured that that should be sufficient enough for this to warrant a mention."
~~Weedle_Mchairybug~~
It's really only 4 or 5 people that aren't doing anything about it. Now, if they were setting up huge websites and getting around 50+ people supporting the cause, then it'd deserve a mention. [[User:Mumbles|Mumbles]] 20:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Actually, it's between 900 and 1000 people. I know because that's the number of people who signed my petition to bring... you-know-who back, and many of them (Probably a sixth of them) ALSO signed it because they wanted to eliminate this stereotype as well (The BMB petition also served as a anti-FAS petition). the majority of them were from high school, but 200 of them came from the AWA convention, about 80 of them were from my neighborhood, and I also got my family to sign it. I'd say that's enough evidence to upload them onto the controversy section (most of them either weren't Pokémon fans at all, or haven't been fans for a LONG time.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
== The gambling lawsuit ==
Is that still taking place?  Or was it thrown out of court (crosses fingers)?  Any news on it?  I mean, WoTC hasn't been the producer of Pokémon TCG cards for, like, ''five years.'''  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 22:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Logically, two things would've happened: (1) the suit would be thrown out of court for being stupid, or (2) the lawsuit would eventually be against every single collectible card game ever. They still make CCGs and we haven't heard anything on the suit in a long, long time, so I'm thinking it got thrown out of court.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
== Swastika ==
In this article it is mentioned that the Swastika is associated with Buddhism. However, it is more associated with Hinduism than it is with Buddhism. Can an admin change it?--'''[[User:Maria-williams|<span style="color:#FF0099">Maria</span>]][[User_talk:Maria-williams|<span style="color:#FF0099">♥♪♫δ</span>]]''' 07:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:It says "many cultures, including that of Japanese Buddhism," so I don't think it's a big deal. If you still do, I'll change it. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 07:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
== Registeel ==
My British friend (who got his copy of Diamond at a local store) just checked the Registeel sprite in his Diamond, and it's the Hitler salute sprite, but the page says it should be the other sprite.--[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 21:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Only one excuse there: since the EU wasn't being a bunch OH GOD THINK OF THE CHILDREN of buttheads in 2007 you guys got the US version of DP, just relabeled. Your Pt, however, vastly differs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 21:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
==Garitina==
There really is no section here in the discussion page to put this but some people believe that garitina resembles satinism because it resembles a serpent in its origin form thus the sickos believe it resembles what first happened in our origin and because it was banished from earth and because of the number of spikes on its wings,legs and cage like things on it. So would someone be kind enough to write this or at least answer why not? If you don't get the number thing look it up because I refuse to write those digits.[[User:VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP|VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP]] 04:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
:Can you link to someone actually complaining about this somewhere? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
==Uri Geller IS a psychic?==
It is only what he claims to be, even if he earns money through it. He apparently refuses research into his ''abilities''. There is no clear proof, so we should change in into '''who ''claims'' to be a psychic'''?
[[User:Renoir|Renoir]] ([[User talk:Renoir|talk]]) 04:44, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
On the topic of Geller, "This is why we can't have nice things."
I do agree, I think it would go better as "claims to be"
[[User:YourBuddyBill|Your Buddy Bill]] ([[User talk:YourBuddyBill|talk]]) 18:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
==Recent PETA 'joke'?==
While I'm sure they'll fob it off as a joke, I'd like to suggest expanding the 'Animal Cruelty' section by including information from PETA's latest threat as well as the controversial and tasteless 'parody' game "Pokemon black and Blue". [[User:Lugia61617|Lugia61617]] ([[User talk:Lugia61617|talk]]) 11:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
== Registeel? ==
Can someone explain to me why there was a controversy over the Registeel's salute? It the wrong arm to be the "Nazi" salute. The Nazi salute it done with the right arm, not the left. So Unless, I'm looking at it wrong, Registeel is arising it left arm. Allen Knott, 6/16/13 4:24am E.S.T. U.S.[[User:Allen Knott|Allen Knott]] ([[User talk:Allen Knott|talk]]) 08:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
:Regardless of which arm is raised, it is still offensive to some.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 08:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
== Electric soldier porygon and seizures ==
This episode has created a guiness world record for giving seizures to 685 children. Watch it in youtube AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! I think this should also be added in the controversies. Is not it?[[User:Mccoyzn|Mccoyzn]] ([[User talk:Mccoyzn|talk]]) 03:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
:That was an actual occurrence, not controversy. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 03:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
== Lawsuits ==
The article is only covering lawsuits that were filed against the creators/owners of the pokemon franchise there are lawsuits that they have filed against others in regards to their franchise like recently a cafe manager was sued by TPC for using their IP for a party without their permission shouldn't that be covered on the article as well? --[[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 14:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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