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* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)
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:: Alright, I was also wondering, is this cover on all copies or only on certain ones? Some are saying they did not have that cover.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:: Alright, I was also wondering, is this cover on all copies or only on certain ones? Some are saying they did not have that cover.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::From what I understood, the cover art used in the article is actually a box, and when you open the box there is the PokéWalker and the game case that you posted above. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::From what I understood, the cover art used in the article is actually a box, and when you open the box there is the PokéWalker and the game case that you posted above. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
::::When the English versions come out, should we scan the covers or not? If not, I say we should mention it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 05:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Mine is just like it only in English. [[User:Crazylegs24]]


== The whole Lati@s version-exclusive thing ==
== The whole Lati@s version-exclusive thing ==
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::::::::I just have to hear it b4 u lot then ^^--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I just have to hear it b4 u lot then ^^--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most of the recent major games have been released Thursday here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 03:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC))
:::::::::Most of the recent major games have been released Thursday here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 03:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC))
Today the official site's news at (http://www.pokemon.com/#news) has confirmed that Amazon's release date is true so there is no longer any doubt that March 14th is the release date. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 06:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


== We need to change something. ==
== We need to change something. ==
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I noticed that for some of the moves (e.g. DynamicPunch, Aura Sphere), the backgrounds were different. Does anyone have a list or more information? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that for some of the moves (e.g. DynamicPunch, Aura Sphere), the backgrounds were different. Does anyone have a list or more information? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Different from Platinum, or DP? Because they were different in Platinum from what they were in DP. They probably did update a lot of animations for moves, just like from DP to Platinum. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Different from Platinum, or DP? Because they were different in Platinum from what they were in DP. They probably did update a lot of animations for moves, just like from DP to Platinum. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
::Late reply is late, but I'm talking about the differences from Platinum. For instance, DynamicPunch has a dark orange background in Platinum, but it's just black in HG/SS. I haven't noticed any differences in the actual moves yet, just the backgrounds. I really should try to compile a list. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 02:54, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes quite a few moves have different animations now. <b>[[User:.insomniac.|<font color="#FFC125">inso</font>]]<font color="#CC1100">m</font>[[User_talk:.insomniac.|<font color="#E0DFDB">niac</font></b>]] 03:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


== What the? ==
== What the? ==
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::Actually, the reason it's there is because the signs themselves are fail. I'm pretty sure the signs don't do that in any other games, and this is freaking HGSS that it's happening in. It's supposed to be the best, in a graphical sense, and they already messed something up. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, the reason it's there is because the signs themselves are fail. I'm pretty sure the signs don't do that in any other games, and this is freaking HGSS that it's happening in. It's supposed to be the best, in a graphical sense, and they already messed something up. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe it needs a bit of re-wording...--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:green;">''ポケモン恋人''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:gold;">''(離す)''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|<span style="color:silver;">''(貢献)''</span>]] 13:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe it needs a bit of re-wording...--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:green;">''ポケモン恋人''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:gold;">''(離す)''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|<span style="color:silver;">''(貢献)''</span>]] 13:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It's fine. Unless it get's re-worded as "There's a minor glitch involving the Poké Mart signs. They are sometimes overlapping the edges of trees, making it appear as if they were built there." Basically the same thing. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::This wouldn't be Pokémon from Game Freak without some mistakes and glitches. And it isn't something that major anyway. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::How do you know it was a mistake? Just because you think it looks like crap doesn't mean that it's a glitch or a mistake... If you want to change the trivia to something like "the Poke Mart signs look like shit" then I understand you more, but there isn't anything suggesting it is a glitch :/ It's just personal opinion that they look like crap where they are placed... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 21:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
:::::::I'm not fully affirming that it is an error, even though it seems to be. And what I meant is that every Pokémon game has had this sort of situations so their occurrence isn't exactly new. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It's probably a minor thing with the 3D graphic generator. And I never said it had to stay. I just told you why it was there. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 01:46, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
While the word "fail" isn't actually an adjective, I agree that it doesn't read too well. I'm not sure what would be a better replacement, or if it should be removed altogether... [[User:Soul of Dawn|Soul of Dawn]] 14:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
== May I ask ==
Why is HGSS being released in Korea '''before''' it's released in America? [[User:ShinyPikachu|<small>Shiny</small>]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 22:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:your guess is as good as any. its never happened before. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 22:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks '''MAG'''. Talk about odd. Sould this be added to the trivia section? [[User:ShinyPikachu|<small>Shiny</small>]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 22:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::already there. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 22:45, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
== Platinum engine? ==
This article says that this game appears to use the Platinum engine, but the last line in [[Tweaking#Exploitation]] seems to suggest that it might be a modified Diamond/Pearl engine. [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 02:11, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:Late reply, but it's possible to tweak in Platinum. Due to Gen III/IV Pokemon retaining their Platinum sprites, Platinum's alternate formes, and the acid rain glitch, it's definitely built from Platinum's engine. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 22:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
==Image Gallery==
I've been thinking now that English boxart had been revealed then perhaps the picture with the English logos could be replaced with a different noteworthy picture since it is not really needed anymore? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 17:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
:Good idea. I'll see if I can find something interesting. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 02:24, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
== FireRed and LeafGreen mention ==
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/story/images/popup_history.jpg
What does this say about FRLG? And what relation does it have with HGSS? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
:It says that FRLG took place three years prior to HGSS. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 20:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's obvious FRLG are the prequels but at least they made it official now.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#FF0000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#008000">''Blue''</span>]]''' 20:39, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
:::That popup has been on the site for ages.  It's ''always'' been official. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 21:00, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks. ;-) And I know it's been there for ages but when I first saw it months ago and asked on one of the now archived pages, I never got an answer. =S [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:17, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
== Trivia? ==
These are the first games to have 2 different box arts. The box that contains the game and the Pokéwalker. And the art from the game it self?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#FF0000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#008000">''Blue''</span>]]''' 03:20, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:FireRed and LeafGreen had the wireless adapter box art and the ones without the wireless adapter. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 03:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::True, but that was the only thing that was mostly changed, besides the Player's Choice title. But HGSS's boxart for the game itself, has a different background then the "package".--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#FF0000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#008000">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:04, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:::MB's right. But the Player's Choice one shouldn't count since it's not exclusive to Pokémon. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:54, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks Pokemon lover! It would be nice if we could put those box arts on the page, b/c those are the true box arts. But we're not sure if this will be carried over to the U.S., so should we wait till the U.S. is released?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#FF0000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#008000">''Blue''</span>]]''' 01:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sadly, yes. we have to wait until english boxarts are released!! [[User:ShinyPikachu|<small>Shiny</small>]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 02:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Why do we have to wait until the English boxart's released? It's an English wiki, but there's no crime in putting up pictures with JAPANESE TEXT OMG in the meantime. Maybe not in the infobox, though. Just as a little side thing somewhere in the article. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#B16ABB;">♥</span>]]</sup> 02:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
One thing that I came to realize which also may be trivia that I also posted about on the Magnezone page is that there is a chance that like FireRed and LeafGreen that not all evolutionary methods are available in the game, where in this case may have to do with location evolutions and possibly Feebas' evolution yet again. If proper research is done and if confirmed does anyone think that this might make it as trivia. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
:I think we are looking into that.
:Anyways about the boxart topic, it seems they did not post the other boxarts on the site or anything. If we can at least get the Japanese ones, will we have to scan them?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#FF0000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#008000">''Blue''</span>]]''' 04:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
== Australian release Date ==
At the moment it says the date for Australia is N/A.
Well i was hopin that could now be changed.
EB Games are now taking pre-orders for the game and are quoting a March 2010 release date. I was told the 14th when i made mine.
Their website now has data for the game which also states a March 2010 release.
http://www.ebgames.com.au/ds-149036-Pokemon-HeartGold-Version-Nintendo-DS
http://www.ebgames.com.au/ds-149038-Pokemon-SoulSilver-Version-Nintendo-DS {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:EB Games is not an official source, so we can't use their date. If Nintendo of Australia confirms the date, then it can be added. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 11:31, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::And they don't even have the official boxart up yet.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:green;">''ポケモン恋人''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:gold;">''(離す)''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|<span style="color:silver;">''(貢献)''</span>]] 22:23, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:::US retailers were taking pre-orders months before the release date was confirmed, and they had a placeholder date of April, and the games are coming out in mid-March. Them just saying March, and having no box arts is not enough to confirm anything. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 23:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
== Version differences ==
Aside from the version-specific Pokémon, are there any other confirmed version differences between the two games? &#8902;[[User:Astrophysics|A<small>'''STROPHYSICS'''</small>]] <small><nowiki>[</nowiki> [[User talk:Astrophysics|talk]] <nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 22:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
:Slight plot change regarding the version mascots, but that's all I've heard of. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
::I supposed I should've expected that, what with R/S and FR/LG being only slightly different as well. Thanks for the answer. &#8902;[[User:Astrophysics|A<small>'''STROPHYSICS'''</small>]] <small><nowiki>[</nowiki> [[User talk:Astrophysics|talk]] <nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 05:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
== Is this normal? ==
I'm wondering if this was purposely done or not. In my copy of SoulSilver, I used a Walk-Through walls cheat with an AR and went to the trees above New Bark Town. And well...
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1600/mysteryzone.png
I'm wondering if this was also in DPPtRSEFRLG. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 03:50, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
:Article's [[Mystery Zone|here]]. However, since the English version isn't out yet for this game, you can't upload that. Only Jap allowed until HGSS' release in America. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 03:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
::Ahh, thanks for clearing that up. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 03:59, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Out of curiosity, could you (or anyone else) take a screenshot of being in the [[Mystery Zone]] in HGSS with the original Japanese game (as in, no English patch)? The page says that it's just a bunch of hyphens, but it'd be interesting to see a screenshot for proof... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#d93f91;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#ae41d9;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#d941cf;">♥</span>]]</sup> 04:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Sadly, I cannot. :( But obviously there are people who don't have English patches. (Even then mine only translates the battle text and Pokecentres. XD) [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 04:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
== In other languages?! ==
I don't think that the titles in other languages are correct. Maybe the titles only include the english names because it haven't been released yet. For example, the spanish name is "Pokémon Edición Oro Heart Gold" because the real name it's not officialy revealed.
--[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] 16:25, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:No, Nintendo of Europe has already confirmed them as the titles. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#00AF33;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#F8D030;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d8;">'''ピカチュウ!'''</span>]] 16:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
::Kind of an odd move, since one could look at the move logs on the German, French, and Spanish (but not Portuguese, since that end's focus is Brazilian as opposed to Iberian and probably wouldn't take notice of NoE's announcement of the localized Iberian Portuguese title) ends and find that "HeartGold" and "SoulSilver" were indeed translatable into localized titles...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:::There is no Iberian Portuguese games there is only the anime. But this is something new they are doing adding the English names to its respective titles. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#00AF33;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#F8D030;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d8;">'''ピカチュウ!'''</span>]] 20:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, us here in Portugal thought that since Nintendo decided to kick {{tt|Concentra|the company's distributor from 1991 to Q4 2008-Q1 2009}}'s ass for poor performance as well as to open their branch here in 2008, with the offices being opened and starting operations in early April 2009, we'd get localized versions but Platinum proved otherwise. HGSS seem to be going the same path, though it's understandable since we got the UK DP long before Nintendo's change of plans. So we might only get PT-PT versions with Gen V. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
== New Hero names ==
Please do not delte the names of the main character. They are official. --[[User:Vampirebidoof|Vampirebidoof]] 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:They're as official as Serebii's site. So.... not much. Policy, as discussed on ''so many'' talk pages is to wait. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:41, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Agree with his choice especially since they are coming from one source only that is not official, even though I do recall hearing about changing the Slot Machines in the international releases before Serebii posted it, but all that can done now and wait even though Serebii is usually right most of the time. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 23:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Key words, ''most of the time''. I don't think he bothers to look at item effects half the time in the English versions (if he even plays them...), because some of the descriptions of effects are from the manga, which is slightly different for some items than in the games. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 00:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
== Gameplay and Aesthetic Changes ==
Shouldn't the list of "Gameplay changes" come before "Aesthetic changes"?  Changed in actual gameplay are more important, it would just make more sense to list them first.  [[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise; font-family:Arial Black">'''''Taromon'''''</span>]] 13:41, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:It doesn't really matter, but that's how we have it on a few different pages, which is why it's how it is on this one. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 14:25, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
== So if this is a FireRed / LeafGreen sequel, did they fix that potential plothole? ==
In the original Generation II, the game began with the discovery of Pokemon eggs. In FireRed and LeafGreen, however, Pokemon eggs have already been discovered. So in this game, was the storyline adjusted, or is this a plothole exclusive to the remakes? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 03:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:Elm was just like "I'VE NEVER SEEN A POKEMAN EGG BEFORE" despite being the authority on evolution. He's also pretty nonchalant when Mr. Pokémon sends him the email, as he says, "Oh, it's just another Pokémon Egg." [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 06:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Official English HeartGold and SoulSilver site ==
Would someone please change the official English site from that article to this:
http://www.pokemongoldsilver.com/
Just whenever you have a chance, thanks.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|<span style="color:#000">Master</span>]][[User:MasterKenobi|<span style="color:#0000CC">Kenobi</span>]]''' 04:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:I wouldn't say replace but instead add to the article. All those subsites won't last forever, unless TPCi changed things to be on par with TPC since Platinum. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 16:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I didn't see it get replaced yet. I would do it, just, I'm not a mod or admin so I can't change it anymore. Could somebody either get on changing or adding it the page. [[User:6259|<span style="color:blue">日本語</span>
]][[User talk:6259|<b><span style="color:orange">日本語
</span></b>]] 22:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
== Dates out of order ==
The dates are not messed up but it could be written better. It should read " Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver were released in Japan on September 12th, and in Korea on February 4th and are schedlued for release in North America on March 14th, In Australia on March 25 and in Europe on March 26th" instead of "The games were released on September 12, 2009 in Japan, and are scheduled to be released on March 14, 2010 in North America, March 26, 2010 in Europe, March 25, 2010 in Australia, and on February 4, 2010 in Korea." the way I rewrote it sounds better since the games have only been released in Korea and Japan at the moment instaed of the current way which makes it seem as if they have already been released. --[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 22:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:Actually... it used to say something like that... but was changed by an administrator for the reason "this is an English wiki so English version dates go first"... sure, it's strange to look at now, but no sense in arguing :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 20:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC))
Thats ok I just thought it seemed a little weird how it is currently written but when the games come out it will make more sense it just seems strange how it is currently written but I do know only Admins can make the change I just thought I would bring it up that it is a little weird.--[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 22:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::It is weird....actually it's wrong. Proper writing would be putting them in order of dates. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I agree with you guys. I thought of saying something at first, but decided against it. As Marchbaby said, when the games come out in all areas at the very least it won't be as much of an eyesore... it's not too long now anyways :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 05:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
At least I am not the only one who feels it is an eyesore how it is currently written thank you for those who agree with me. Now if only they would make it so I could eidt the page to make it less of an eyesore.--[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 18:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC))
== Template:Langtable ==
To any admin: can you turn the "In the other languages" section into a subsection of the trivia and replace its entries with this, please:
{{langtable|color={{soulsilver color}}|bordercolor={{heartgold color light}}
|ja=ポケットモンスター ハートゴールド・ソウルシルバー
|fr=Pokémon Version Or HeartGold et Version Argent SoulSilver
|de=Pokémon - Goldene Edition HeartGold und Silberne Edition SoulSilver
|it=Pokémon Versione Oro HeartGold e Versione Argento SoulSilver
|ko={{tt|포켓몬스터 하트골드·소울실버|Pocket Monsters HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
|es=Pokémon Edición Oro HeartGold y Edición Plata SoulSilver}}
Thx in advance. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 11:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
== Character Names ==
Serebii has long since released the official English names of many characters, can somebody change them? '''The''' ''[[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]], [[User Talk:GuyNamedSean|yep, that's '''me'''!]]'' 05:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:Please read the previous discussions on the matter.  All you need to do is scroll up. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sup>❄</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#CCDDFF;"><sub>❅</sub></span>]]</span> 05:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Now the names ARE official. In the demos the name for kotone is Lyra. Can I change it now? {{unsigned|Vampirebidoof}}
:Is it really that hard to wait another 8 days? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
::No, but it's dumb that official game footage has confirmed it ant the mods still refuse to act like it's valid enough proof. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 22:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
== Dates ==
The dates need to be changed because in one of the countries (I think Korea) HeartGold and SoulSilver has already came out [[User:CodyDelis|Cody A. Delis]] 00:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:Why do they need to be changed? I think the sentence should be reworded to note that the Korean HGSS is already out. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 01:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
::Thats what I meant sorry,I just typed what went through my head. [[User:CodyDelis|Cody A. Delis]] 01:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::ive taken care of it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 18:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
== New images ==
Could someone put these in?  They are English screen shots to replace the Jap. ones
[[:a:File:SoulSilver US start screen.jpg]]
[[:a:File:Heart Gold US start screen.jpg]]
They are from the press site:
http://press.nintendo.com/object?id=19523
http://press.nintendo.com/object?id=19535
[[Water (type)|<font color="Navy">Water</font>]]<small>[[Hydro Cannon (move)|<font color="Blue">User</font>]]</small> <small><sub>([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]])</sub></small> 19:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
==Gameplay changes correction==
The last note needs to be updated on the Kimono Girls summoning dance to reflect that it is only for summoning Ho-Oh in HeartGold and Lugia in SoulSilver only to avoid confusion. As long as the page is protected there is nothing that I can do about it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
== New Dutch/Belgium Release Date ==
Just got a mail from Nintendo saying that the new release date for the games is the second of april (april 2 2010).
Is it worth it posting this on the article? [[User:Alexjuuhh|Alexjuuhh]] 15:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:Since [http://www.nintendo.nl/NOE/nl_NL/news/2010/lanceerdatum_pokmon_heartgold_version_en_pokmon_soulsilver_version_bevestigd_16616.html these] [http://www.nintendo.be/NOE/nl_BE/news/2010/lanceerdatum_pokmon_heartgold_version_en_pokmon_soulsilver_version_bevestigd_16616.html news articles] at Nintendo NL and Dutch BE, respectively, announce the release date as April 2, then yes, it must be mentioned on the article. [[User:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:green">ポケモン</span></b>]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|<b><span style="color:blue">あいこうか</span></b>]] 11:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
== On memes in the Trivia section ==
Seeing as Bulbapedia is being a big ol' bag of dicks at the moment and I can't edit anything without getting a 504, I'll just leave this here as a note in case I forget about it.
In the Trivia section, the 'A winner is you' quote links to the Wikipedia page for Yoda of Star Wars fame; it should link to the page for Pro Wrestling on the Nintendo Entertainment System, as this is where the meme originates from. {{unsigned|Tehb0ll0x}}
:first off, we arent being "a big bag of dicks" about the 504s. we simply have too many users and not enough server. if you read the Message from the Editor on the main page, you would know this.
:second, idk who added it, but its pretty clear they guessed on that one.
:third, sign your comments. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 21:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I wasn't referring to the Bulbapedia community, staff, ''et al'', but to the site itself. In other words, I was doing the typically human thing and blaming the inanimate object for the problem. Apologies for the misunderstanding. And I'm ALWAYS forgetting to sign things. Apologies for that too. [[User:Tehb0ll0x|Tehb0ll0x]] 20:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
== KOREAN POKEMON BOXART IMAGE ==
<font size="2">'''I FOUND THIS IMAGE OF THE KOREAN BOXART OF THIS GAME FROM SOME KOREAN WEBSITE [http://media.daum.net/digital/game/view.html?cateid=1051&newsid=20100202122719195&p=gamedonga (source)]. Is it OK to put it in the article?'''</font> [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 06:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:No, only the english boxart. --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 06:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
== Yes, it did ==
Before anything starts about what i added in the trivia section, i saw the commercial myself.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Flyingtypefan}} ([[User talk:Flyingtypefan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flyingtypefan|contribs]]) ''</small>
: That was a shot from a battle on the PokéWalker, sorry.  Oh and be sure to sign. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 22:43, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
It was? Well, i haven't used the Pokewalker before, so can you encounter a Lugia on the Pokewalker? Just to be sure, i'll see if i can find the commercial online. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:If the {{p|Lugia}} is on the right of the screen, it's the players Pokémon. The opposite to normal main game battles.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 10:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
== Anyone mind a few more redirects? ==
Does anyone mind if I make a few more directs to this article? Specifically redirecting 'SilverSoul' to this article, because people commonly mix up SoulSilver as SilverSoul, it's a common mistake and I've been known to do it a large number of times (not on this wiki of course...). So anyway, would anyone mind if I made those redirects? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:I've never seen anybody use that. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 04:41, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
== How far should the notes go ==
One thing that has been on my mind for a while is how far should the notes and trivia go to avoid making this too long for the page. Minor tidbits that are not related to a general change could be removed or moved, and one thing I did was merge to similar notes together. This is the perspective I have been looking at for HeartGold and SoulSilver. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
== Should this be on the page? ==
HGSS combined have sold over 10,090,000 copies.--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 20:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
== Two cases ==
Should it be mentioned that the game comes within two cases? One holding the Pokéwalker and the actual game case, and then the actual game case itself? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 18:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
== Australian Release ==
On the article it says that Australia has had HeartGold and SoulSilver since the 25th of March 2010, right? I was walking past an Australian store with the games on an earlier date, around the 18th to the 23rd. Should it be changed? [[User:Strongriver|Strongriver]] 05:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
:Does that store import games? I know that there are quite a few stores in English speaking countries which will import the games from the States to get them earlier than local release (although in this case only by a few days. Platinum however it was a couple of months.) <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
::The official release date of the games in Australia was indeed March 25. I think we should just leave it as that. Preorders sometimes arrive before the release dates, too. [[User:Takharii|<span style="color:#FFD733;">'''たか'''</span>]][[User talk:Takharii|<span style="color:#DAA520;">'''はり'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''い'''</span>]] 07:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
== Critical Reception ==
Should this page have a "Reception" section like other games? I have some information regarding review scores and nowhere to put them.--[[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]] 22:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
== MISSING PLOT? ==
Why is the Plot section of this article missing? The last time I checked this article, it was here. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
:Uh, from what I've seen, it hasn't been there for months, possibly due to its remake status. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig</font> <font color="#FF7F00">A</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 16:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
But [[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|Firered and Leafgreen]] have a Plot section and they are also remakes. HGSS plot has a few plot changes from [[Pokemon Gold and Silver|Gold and Silver]] so this article needs a Plot section. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
== Type Secialist ==
Is it worth noting that this game is the first to include type specialist for all 17 types (15 different gym leaders (not including Blue), Karen (Dark), and possibly Giovanni). I say possibly because I don't know if he counts as a Ground type specialist in these games. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 01:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
== The title of the page should stay the same. ==
It has been suggested that the title of this article be renamed "Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver." I'm okay with the suggestion, but even though other territories don't use the word "version," North America does, so we should refer to them by their full North American names. Thank you. [[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 23:35, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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