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==Previous discussions==
==Previous discussions==
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:::::::::::::I was referring to searching for anything containing an "&" prevents any results from showing up.  [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%26&fulltext=1 Example]  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I was referring to searching for anything containing an "&" prevents any results from showing up.  [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%26&fulltext=1 Example]  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Results show up if the searched text contains an &, it's just not if you ''only'' search an &. All special characters are ignored on the search page, so you get the same result if you search ! or @. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Results show up if the searched text contains an &, it's just not if you ''only'' search an &. All special characters are ignored on the search page, so you get the same result if you search ! or @. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:Okay, tested in Internet Explorer, and it seems to work normally there, as & was properly converted to %26. Seems the issue only applies to certain browsers, like Safari. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 18:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
::Kogoro updated the code, but because of where it is, it's very slow to update. Browser choice has nothing to do with the issue at all, simply the javascript that encoded those links had failed to 'escape' the page title, and with the limited knowledge of javascript among active staff it took us a while to figure out how to fix it. Also, something to note is that it does not escape the characters @*/ and + The only of which should matter is the rarely used +. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Well, I tested again on Safari today, and it seems to work properly now. Thanks for the update! ^_^ [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


== Bad news ==
== Bad news ==


I learned that Hiroshi Yamauchi died so please add the news. article
I learned that Hiroshi Yamauchi died so please add the news. article {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}
 
 
here's an link
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Draft:Former_Nintendo_President_Passes_away {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}
 
:Since that is a Bulbanews article, which is under the same figurative roof as Bulbapedia, it's likely going to be reflected here soon enough in full detail. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 14:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 
==Twitter==
 
Is the twitter feed down again??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 22:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 
Nevermind lol, my computer just glitched for a second.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 22:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 
==Forums==
 
Um are the forums down or is it just my computer??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
:The forums were indeed down but they should be working fine now. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 17:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 
== Type charts on Gen VI Pokemon ==
 
The full Gen VI type chart has been released, so why don't any of the Gen VI Pokemon have a type chart on their pages? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 00:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:The {{template|Type effectiveness}} template is currently only compatible with Gen V, and alot of stuff has to be updated with Gen VI coming out, so it's all a matter of patience. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 04:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 
== Names of Pokemon games in general ==
Hey! Just wanted to bring this giant post I just typed elsewhere to your attention, instead of retyping the same info over again: http://vgmdb.net/forums/showpost.php?p=56272&postcount=3
In short, Japan stopped using "Pocket Monsters" outside of the katakana when R/S dropped, and at the same time Nintendo as a whole started up a consistent branding scheme (actually I'm not ''entirely'' sure how it scales to ''everything'' else but) that most people don't seem to notice (only with X/Y has this been changed (for the better)). Because of this, I believe we (and Wikipedia, and everywhere else) needs to rethink how we handle the game titles. There's a reason things like the albums refer to themselves as "Pokémon", and it's not to be "import friendly".
If I've come across as a bit brusque, I apologize, but I find it a bit silly that this has gone unnoticed for a decade! [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 08:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 
:I get your point that in Japan the English name of the games is "Pokémon Ruby" etc. after RS, but I'm not entirely sure what you're suggesting. The italic English text next to Japanese names is supposed to be a translation of the text, and there is a katakana difference between "Pokémon" and "Pocket Monsters", so they are translated as such where appropriate. It is important to note that the Japanese text does say "Pocket Monsters", as in Japan the main series is officially the "Pocket Monsters series" [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game-series/]. Also, it's worth noting that Pokémon Stadium does the exact opposite of what you mentioned: the katakana says "Pokémon", but the Latin text says "Pocket Monsters" (for all three games). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:15, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 
::Ah, sorry. I'm suggesting that we should use "Pokémon" as that transliteration for these later games instead of "Pocket Monsters", because that's what Nintendo does... we do the same for Pokemon themselves, for example. The trick is that you really want to avoid transliterating if you can help it; you can produce multiple official titles out of what looks like one. Basically, what's happening is that you have a katakana (here, anyway) title that is always used within itself, and a Roman-based title that is always used within itself--"進撃の巨人" and "Attack on Titan" is similar--two ''completely'' different titles used within the same context to refer to the same work (at the same time). That page may say "ポケットモンスターシリーズ", but you can bet it would have used "Pokémon" if they could help it.
::And yeah, with the Stadium case, those games were part of the old branding, which used "Pokemon" whenever it pleased. Technically, "Pokémon" is actually part of a "phrase shortening" trend that's pretty common in Japanese ("Famicom"'s a great example, and this is also why the term is even "Pokémon" to begin with), so it was occasionally used by Nintendo wherever they felt; Pokemon Puzzle Challenge became "Pokemon no Panepon" (heh, "Panepon" is another example of that shortening, being short for Panel de Pon) for its Japanese release, for example.
::(Fun fact: technically the katakana isn't actually "Pocket Monsters" transliterated; there's a common tendency (it's totally random!) to remove the final S/Z sound at the end of plurals in these transliterations, so it's ''really'' "Pocket Monster". "ポケットモンスターシリーズ" is a great example of with and without, in fact. Platinum is similar; the katakana actually reads "platina" (a word usually used to refer to alloys of platinum) and at least [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/otanosimi/platina/aikotoba/ one Nintendo website] uses this.) [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 06:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I think I get your point, but the problem is that the "English name in Japan" is not an accurate translation of the actual text. Pokémon names are only alternate romanizations, not alternate phrases entirely. Pokémon and Pocket Monsters are used distinctly, so the translation should accurately reflect this. In your Attack on Titan example, were we to have an article on it (it's not relevant to Pokémon, so we shouldn't), it would be formatted as
::::'''Attack on Titan''' (Japanese: '''進撃の巨人''' ''Advancing Titans'')
:::However, I do take your point that it would be useful to note the official Asian-English names of the games, but the problem is that in the case of Pearl (for example), we have ポケットモンスター officially as ''Pokémon'', but nothing for パール. (Asian-English is a term used in Yu-Gi-Oh, so I'm borrowing it here for clarity; there may be a better term, but it will do for the circumstances.) For the record, platinum in Japanese comes from the Spanish word "platina" rather than the English one, thus why it is formatted as such (or at least, that's what I remember being told by my high-school Japanese teacher). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
::::1. "Pokémon" is most definitely a distinct title from "ポケモン", even. Titles are not about meaning, not ever; they are always about physical structure. It's pretty obvious that there are three different titles used (for whatever reasons there may be) to refer to the same work: "Pokémon", "ポケモン", and "ポケットモンスター". What else is there to it? (As a sidenote, I disprove of the preference for translations, specifically over romaji... where can I open a discussion about that?)
::::2. That sounds like a pretty good case for not having romaji ''at all'', doesn't it? Fortunately, Nintendo at least provides "Platinum" here (nearly every single Japanese page on the game uses it), and likely provides the same for the other games (at the least, they outright use "Pokémon <version>" on every soundtrack album since Ruby and Sapphire's). [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 06:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 
== Unknown Dungeon ==
 
I either cannot or am unable to find where to create a page for the Unknown Dungeon in Gen VI that holds mewtwo. Could someone make this? The dungeon's entrance is in Pokémon Village.
 
[[User:TheJaceX|TheJaceX ]] ([[User talk:TheJaceX|talk]]) 21:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 
== Time for archive 13? ==
 
I mean this page is getting pretty big! [[User:Bill Gates|Bill Gates]] ([[User talk:Bill Gates|talk]]) 20:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
 
== Suggestion ==
 
I know we changed the Pokemon artwork images to a square ratio for practical reasons, not aesthetic ones, but now that they're the standard, other articles with Sugimori images — [[Valerie]] is the one I noticed, but most humans' articles, in fact — look abnormal because they break this new standard. Can we just apply the square requirement to all official art used in infoboxes so things match aesthetically? (I know this is totally not a priority and thus will absolutely not happen at least until the XY info is all put up, but I thought I'd suggest it to be implemented at some point in the future.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:This was actually something we bought up whilst making the decision to square the images of Pokemon. With the character art a lot of the pictures are a fair bit taller then what they are wide, whereas with Pokemon, the difference is to a much less significant degree. As a result, when the character images are forced to comply with the infobox a significant amount of quality is loss. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 06:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 
== Pokémon X and Y sprites and icons ==
 
I just wanna ask when you guys will have the X and Y  icons and sprites. [[User:Raichu8575|Raichu8575]] ([[User talk:Raichu8575|talk]]) 15:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
:"Sprites" in the traditional sense don't really exist anymore; Pokémon in Gen VI are represented by fully in-motion 3D models with no single "still image" to really take as a sprite. That's probably why in the Evolution section of any Pokémon page, you'll see official artwork instead of the current sprite like there used to be. The Sprites section may end up being something that only goes up to Gen V now. As for the icons? I saw some Gen VI icons around a few days ago but they're since been removed, apparently. No clue why. --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 22:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Likely if we can get the files, we might create a model section for each Pokémon, though it isn't possible at the moment.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::There's still party sprites, even for completely new Pokémon. They're also used when choosing a Friend Safari to enter. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 00:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::I know, and like I said I saw them before; on a type page I think, when it listed all the Pokémon of that type. Gen VI Pokémon were there, icon and all. Maybe someone uploaded icons but they got taken down? --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 03:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Yes, they were taken down because the user who uploaded them admitted to stealing them from Serebii. The images will be uploaded once someone can get them themselves and not steal them from other sites.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 03:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::I would just like to add to this that Nintendo has solved our problem for us, the update for 3DS that is coming this month adds Miiverse support and the ability to take screenshots whenever you want and have them posted to Miiverse. Obviously we can have people go and take pictures of every Pokemon and we can remove the background and use those as the "sprites". If any staff is reading this I would gladly help with this once the update is out, as I know it will be a huge undertaking.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Well... The update came out and for some reason you can't take pictures of Pokemon X and Y... I hope they update it so you can.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 
== Watchlist ==
 
Hi there. So I've been having trouble adding a page to my watchlist these past few days. It's the Clemont anime page and it keeps saying an error occurred. I w as just wondering if this was just me or if other people are having trouble to??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
:The "watch"/"unwatch" button at the top of the page seems to be broken. You can find my report {{DL|Help talk:Editing|Watchlist error|here}}. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 18:26, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 
Ok, thanks for letting me know, I'm glad to know it wasn't just me :).[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 19:12, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah, a couple of people have been reporting this problem. Just dropping a note to say that the staff is aware of the problem, and we're working to get it fixed. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::Vunderbar. Glad to know something like this, even if seemingly minor, has been noticed by staff. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 22:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 
== Volcanion, Hoopa, and Diancie ==
 
So I'm sure most of you have heard about the three legendary event Pokemon recently found in the coding for X and Y. So I want to ask: Why do we not have pages for them?
 
Obviously we don't have any info yet, and I understand that, but we had a page for [[Trevenant]] long before we even knew his English name. Couldn't we make a page for them and not have any info for them (even PokeDex number)? I know they're real, I went into the X and Y GTS and saw for my self. So I think we need pages for them.
 
Opinions? (And before you give them, please read my ENTIRE post. I've gotten way too many posts that have logic that I already broke in my explanation. And if you don't think my explanation is accurate, tell me why. Cuz it gets annoying when its just "NO WE DONT HAVE ANY INFO IDIOT. YOUR STUPID."
 
[[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 17:49, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:That's because at the time, Trevenant's existence was confirmed by official footage. --<b>[[User talk:Relicant|<span style="color:#EBEBEB;">The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|<span style="color:#F08030;">Truth</span>]]</b> aka Relicant 17:51, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::Before this conversation goes too far, let me redirect you to the already-ongoing discussion about these three at {{DL|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub|Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub → Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Diancie now has a page, but here's what I'm wondering: why would we have pages talking about Mega Lati@s if they haven't been confirmed? Just saying. --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 14:19, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


== Bad news ==
== MediaWiki update/upgrade ==
 
It's what's causing some template issues right now, isn't it? And while we're at it, could the "Erika's Garden" skin be updated and fixed? [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 23:13, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 
== Where are the menu sprites for new Pokémon, bag sprites for Mega Stones and other newly introduced items (Assault Vest, etc.)? ==
 
We had them all up before but they keep getting taken down! What's the problem? Does anyone here have any idea of when they will be back up for good? It's getting really annoying to see the red error text and ? mark sprites throughout the site! [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 20:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:They were stolen from other fan sites, so they were deleted off of the archives.  --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 20:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::That's Pokémon sprites. The bag sprites - the user claimed to have 3DS Capture Card, but hasn't given any proof within requested period of time. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 21:01, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
What really annoys me the most is that if they were taken from Serebii, who honestly cares! It's gonna likely be in the exact same quality if someone were to rip the sprites with a capture card. But the law is the law. I wish we could just ask them for permission to take their stuff so we can clear this whole mess up. I honestly think no one is gonna upload the sprites anytime soon. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 21:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:It's too early to determine that. Besides, Generation VI just started. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 21:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::Joe (aka Serebii, aka webmaster of the {{tt|Serebii|yo dawg, be called Serebii and be webmaster of website called Serebii. Serebii managing Serebii... what? That's confusing.}}) will care, since he stated that he doesn't want us to use stuff acquired from his website. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 21:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:::To build on this, we can ask for permission to use the resources that others have put up.  No one has explicitly given permission for us to do so, thus there is no sprites at the moment.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
== About the "characteristics" of types... ==
 
I noticed that within each page on the individual Pokémon types, there is a 'Characteristics' section, which describes both defensive and offensive characteristics. However, is this all really necessary? Firstly, this seems like Smogon standards, and shouldn't belong on a site that discusses only facts. Second, each 'Characteristics' section says pretty much the same thing. "It's good overall." This is just my opinion, but I don't think it's really that needed. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 02:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:I agree. It's opinionated and, in my experience, tends to attract editors who (A) add more egregiously opinionated material that just has to be removed and (B) are especially unfamiliar with our standards of notability. I'd love to see the sections axed. All of the important unopinionated information in them is already given in the type effectiveness and average stat sections on the same pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 
== Problem ==
Mobile View button and m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net do not load any version of the site. [[User:Snowe|Snowe]] ([[User talk:Snowe|talk]]) 06:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:Same problem. Whenever I try to do either it just tells me the site doesn't exist. Tried it on both the desktop and a mobile phone. --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 01:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::I've had this problem with every browser i've tried. Tried on desktop and my phone, but neither work. Can it be fixed?--[[User:SamurottMaster4747|SamurottMaster4747]] ([[User talk:SamurottMaster4747|talk]]) 02:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::I think the problem is because there ''isn't'' an m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net. If you want to browse from your phone, you can go right on to the normal site. A mobile site has to actually be coded for it to exist. If no one made it, it won't just automatically be there just because you're using a phone. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) <span style="cursor:help;" title="This is when my words were heard">16:43,1/28/2014 (UTC)</span>
::::But there is a mobile site option at the bottom of the homepage, which means it must be coded and existing.. --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 22:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::The mobile option was added by a MediaWiki upgrade, but does not actually exist. Please do not use it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 22:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 
== Tecnical problem ==
 
When I'm on the home page, I get this message:
Error creating thumbnail: convert: no decode delegate for this image format `/tmp/magick-cSDv1Klr' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/532.
convert: missing an image filename `/tmp/transform_2ea9dab991f0-1.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3011.
--[[User:Chero|Chero]] ([[User talk:Chero|talk]]) 16:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:Click the running UTC clock at the top of the page, beside your username. The images should repair themselves. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 16:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 
== Strange occurrence ==
 
I'm not really sure if there's an actual place to report general site bugs, but for some odd reason, [[Special:Log]] has the edit top of page option, which does nothing except take you to Special:Log. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) <span style="cursor:help;" title="This is when my words were heard">19:59,2/7/2014 (UTC)</span>
 
This is still a thing. I'm not sure anyone is reading this after so long, but I just wanted to point it out once more, if it hasn't been noticed. [[User:PkmnASKE|PkmnASKE]] ([[User talk:PkmnASKE|talk]]) 15:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 
== The Speed Gamers are now offline ==
 
Hello there, The Speed Gamers are now offline. When do you plan to show BNN again? --[[User:Zubat101|Zubat101]] ([[User talk:Zubat101|talk]]) 17:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 
== Mega Heracross and Mega Pinsir America Event ==
 
Starting today on August 13 in America, people can start getting a Mega Heracross in Pokémon X and a Mega Pinsir in Pokémon Y. This event will last until September 17 via Internet. Note; the Heracross and the Pinsir do NOT have their Mega Stones. You obtain their Mega Stones starting Monday, August 18. The end date for the Mega Stones is currently unknown.
[[User:DJMander|DJMander]] ([[User talk:DJMander|talk]]) 14:57, 13 August 2014 (UTC)DJMander 14:57, August 13
 
== Unless I was imagining things ==
 
There used to be link to the forums in "navigation" but I can't see it anymore.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:I think there's something wrong with the sidebar... the links all show up in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] but not in the actual sidebar itself... ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
::For me, it's there. Although once, the navigation bar ''did'' derp for me, so maybe...[[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 21:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:::It is there now, but when I checked about an hour ago, it only had what I would assume would be default options: Main Page, Help, Recent Changes, and Random Page.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:55, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
::::By "Navigation" I'm assuming you mean just the bar that says navigation, which does not have the link to the forums. There is a "Bulbagarden" sidebar right below the search bar that has the link to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 03:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::That assumption is correct.  The navigation sidebar was the one that goofed up and only showed four of the seven links.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:24, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::Occasionally the sidebar hiccups and does that. It comes back eventually though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== Uhhhh ==
 
When I go to "bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net", instead of taking me to the ain page by default, it takees me to some weird "nginx" thing :/ [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 19:24, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:It brings me to the normal Main Page, it sounds like something might be redirecting you, maybe try running a virus scan or clearing your cookies, if it still happens, report it on the forums in the Bulbawiki General Forum. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
::If I understand things correctly, Nginx is a web server or at least software that runs as a server.  Likely, Bulbagarden uses Nginx for at least part of the network, though I think that would be a question more for the {{bp|Webmasters}}.  Did it say something like "502 Bad Gateway - nginx\1.6.0" or so?  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:18, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 
== Possible evolution in anime ==
 
According to the [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/img/index/teaser/posterBig.jpg poster of M18], [[Serena's Fennekin]], [[Clemont's Luxio]] and [[Jessie's Pumpkaboo]] may evolve in the future. Could someone protect those articles? [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 06:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 
==StreetPass article==
 
It just occurred to me that the wiki could probably afford to have an article about [[StreetPass]]. Considering that it's a 3DS feature that is used by several Pokémon games for 3DS (both main series and side games), I would think an article compiling its functionality and how to access it in each game would be worthwhile. I don't have time to make that right now, as I'm focused on other things, but maybe someone else could? —[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:11, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 
== pointless ==
 
every attack article saYS "this article needs a better picture. reason: in has to be a generation 6 picture."  why not leave it the way it is??? --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 22:32, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
:The reason why the notices are there is to have up-to-date information on all things Pokémon. It wouldn't be good if the third Gen images were the most current for all moves created prior to the fourth Gen. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 00:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
:: <:( i just like generation 5 --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 02:50, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 
== also... ==
 
please just remove bad words they scare me so muuuuuuuuuch waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 22:35, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
:While it is in the [[Bulbapedia:Code of conduct|Code of conduct]] that profanity is not looked on as a good thing, there is not too much that can be done. I'm not a fan of it either but as long as it is not where it shouldn't be, there shouldn't be a problem. Also, just saying there are bad words doesn't help. You actually need to point out where it is; then the proper actions can be taken. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 00:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with the occasional swear word. Plus, some people seem to think certain words are "bad" whilst others would think they're perfectly normal. It's completely impossible to censor what some people think as bad words. For example, to some people "hell" could be seen as a bad word. To me, there's nothing wrong with it at all. As long as they aren't directed towards another user as an insult, swear words are fine. Most people know them after all. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 15:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
:::: really? bad words are NOT ok and the REALLY make me angry! I JUST HATE HOW THE WORLD ACTUALLY LIKES WHAT'S WRONG! --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 02:52, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 
== Links of Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance ==
 
'''Some''' of the links of Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance '''do not''' work correctly (Ex. Starfy Wiki). I noticed that if I take out the /Main_Page from the URL it '''will work'''. This may be different for other web browsers.
----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 04:16, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
:Yes. The Starfy Wiki and Golden Sun Universe links need to be altered to be /wiki/Main_Page instead of just /Main_Page due to a change (from a relatively long time ago) causing simply /Main_Page not to work. If I remember rightly there was a NIWA staff discussion of some sort arguing that everything in the NIWA wikis should be under /wiki/. I am not sure why and I no longer have the discussion archived, but the MediaWiki website [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory thinks this is bad too]. Super Mario Wiki didn't make the change. [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 06:03, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
 
== waaaaaaaaaaah ==
 
can you add pokemon cries from each game/generation? --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 18:32, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
:This has been discussed a ''while'' back (and I mean a ''while''), and the answer was that we want it but the servers can't handle it. Not sure if that is still the case today, since it hasn't been brought up since.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:59, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
::ok then --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 23:00, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Just for the record, "a while back" in this case means 2008-2009 since I was at least one of the people suggesting it. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 19:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 
==NIWA problem==
Hello, I've been having a problem getting the Zelda wiki to load on my smart phone,all I do is type the Zelda wiki url in the url bar or click the link you have for it at the bottom of the page, sometimes it works fine other times it just sits there for a bit and then the screen turns white and this following text appears on the screen:
<pre>
Could not aquire 'zelda_mediawiki-
wiki_:messages:en:status' lock
 
Backtrace:
 
#0
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(710):MessageCache->load('en')
#1
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(650):MessageCache->getMsgFromNamespace('pagetitle','en')
#2
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Message.php(720):MessageCache->get('pagetitle', true, Object(Language))
#3
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Message.php(464):Message->fetchMessage()
#4
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Message.php(553):Message->toString()
#5
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/OutputPage.php(835):Message->text()
#6
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/OutputPage.php(878):OutputPage->setHTMLTitle(Object(Message))
#7
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Article.php(554):OutputPage->setPageTitle('Main Page')
#8
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/actions/ViewAction.php(44):Article->view()
#9
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Wiki.php(439):ViewAction->show()
#10
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Wiki.php(305):MediaWiki->performAction(Object(Article), Object(Title))
#11
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Wiki.php(565):MediaWiki->performRequest()
#12
/var/www/zeldawiki.org/includes/Wiki.php(458):MediaWiki->main()
#13 /var/www/zeldawiki.org/index.php(63):
MediaWiki->run()
#14 {main}
</pre>
 
That is all That is shown when I try to access the Zelda wiki, I have no viruses on my smartphone (I know because I constantly scan for viruses and use AVG as my virus scanner), this has only been happening since I cleared the cache, but again sometimes it works just like it's supposed to so I don't think the cache is the problem, anyways I wanted to let you know about it so you can help me figure out the problem and let the Zelda wiki people know. I will also be posting this same thing to the Zelda wiki once I can get on it again. So please help me out, thank you for your time and I shall be awaiting responses.
[[User:Lordofninjas1|Lordofninjas1]] ([[User talk:Lordofninjas1|talk]]) 20:38, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
:Just to let you know the 1. That appear on the screen before the numbers are supposed to be a hash tag sign or number sign, since that's how it appears to me, the wiki edits hashtags to look like 1. I guess. [[User:Lordofninjas1|Lordofninjas1]] ([[User talk:Lordofninjas1|talk]]) 20:42, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
::Hey there, this isn't really the best place to ask this kind of thing; I'd suggest checking out [http://zeldauniverse.net/forums/index.php/Board/191-Zelda-Wiki-Central/ the Zelda Wiki subforum on Zelda Universe]. Zelda Wiki has been having some technical issues recently, and that's one of the messages that appears.  The Zelda Wiki technical staff are aware (I'm an admin on Zelda Wiki, but not involved in this kind of thing). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 
Not meaning to be rude when I say this, but it seems that you didn't notice the part where I said that I would let Zelda wiki know the next time I was able to get onto the site. Also, I have noticed that there are a few other postings in this section, whether visible or archived, where people have stated problems for NIWA and not just bulbapedia here and they seem to not have been reprimanded or asked to go to the other site to report it. again not meaning to be rude, sorry if it came across that way. Would you happen to know when the technical problems with Zelda wiki will be fixed?
[[User:Lordofninjas1|Lordofninjas1]] ([[User talk:Lordofninjas1|talk]]) 16:41, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
:Right, but I suggested using the Zelda Universe forums, which while affiliated with Zelda Wiki are at a different domain, so will not necessarily be down at the same time. I wasn't trying to reprimand you for posting that here, just suggested a better place to ask; I'm the only person active here who is staff on Zelda Wiki, so you're unlikely to get an answer unless I see the message (which I did in this case). The other section about NIWA on this page is actually about the NIWA links on the front page (I only glanced at the previous archive, but it looks like most messages about NIWA are too).
:To your main question, I don't know how long Zelda Wiki is going to be having technical issues, but at the moment it is online. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:05, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 
== "Sprites" ==
 
Now that we have the Gen VI Pokémon models, shouldn't we change the headers on species' pages to be "Sprites and Models"? Or perhaps an overarching term like "Appearance"? <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 20:13, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 
:I agree. since in [[gen VI]] they aren't spirits.----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 02:09, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 
== [Urgent] Code request ==
 
I found that [[PS465]] to [[PS527]] are not sorted in numbers here http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Adventures_rounds&pagefrom=398%0APS398#mw-pages. I think only administrator could work on it. [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 08:55, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 
== No articles are being chosen to be a featured article or not ==
 
"Featured article candidate" page hasn't been changed since August 17 2013. So Bulbapedia must have the same featured articles since then. I just think that the featured articles should be chosen weather or not to be featured articles. ----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 04:42, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 
== Email ==
 
I noticed that whenever my watchlist changes, I do '''not''' get an email notifying me that the page changed. My email is typed out exactly the same as the email I use. I get emails from other sources. I '''used''' to get emails from [[Bulbapedia]]. Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me? ----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 00:04, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
:Check your preferences in the "User Profile" section. At the bottom, there are check boxes that allow you to decide what you do and don't get emails from. If the box for watchlist stuff is unchecked, then that's why you're not getting the emails. Hope this helps! [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 02:05, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
::I already looked at that before I posted this. Everything is checked '''except''' "Send me copies of emails I send to other users". But thanks for trying to help! ----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 03:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see what you mean now. In that case, I have no idea. Sorry! [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 09:02, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
::::It's possible they are still being sent, but your email is treating them as spam. Check your spam folder. Regardless, it might help if you whitelist the email which the Bulbapedia emails come from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 23:41, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::I put them to my safe senders list and added them to my contacts but I still get no emails when my watch list was updated. A long time ago my Bulbapedia emails where treated as spams, but then stopped calling them spams and where always in my inbox even if it had spam in the title. I have no emails from them in my junk email folder. I don't know how to put emails on my white-list for Window Live Mail. Thanks anyways though. ----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 14:28, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Are you getting any other Bulbapedia emails? (such as if someone emails you through your userpage, or if you reset your password) --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 14:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Nope, but I don't think anyone sent me any emails and I haven't reset my password. ----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:21, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::My email just started receiving emails from Bulbapedia  on the 6/28! I don't know how. Maybe a staff member changed something. ----[[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:Navy">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 14:44, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Other languages ==
 
Hi,
can I make in this wiki, articels from voice actors from other language's? And why articel [[Liza Jacqueline]] redecting to Pokemon actors?--[[User:Tinca14|Tinca14]] ([[User talk:Tinca14|talk]]) 11:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project_VA#Notability|Bulbapedia's standards for voice actors state that a page can only be created for a voice actor if:]]
:*They are an English or Japanese voice actor who meets any of the following:
:**They voiced a main and/or recurring character in the anime for more than one episode.
:**They voiced at least 10 minor characters ([[characters of the day]]).
:**They had parts in at least 20 episodes.
:International voice actors are not considered notable, as their information should be listed on Project Globe's articles. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
::In addition, this is a wiki about Pokémon, not voice actors from {{wp|Winx Club}}, so having a role in that show is irrelevant to their notability here. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:20, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Ok, but I don't make a page of winx club. I add it to non pokemon role's. {{unsigned|Tinca14}}
 
== BulbaNewsNow ==
 
I don't have a Twitter, so excuse me for posting here rather than commenting on the tweet itself, but I would like to question the logic behind retweeting the post about the unconfirmed new Pokémon.
While I know that it's ''possible'' it's real, what distinguishes this from the hundreds of fakes out there? This one doesn't really have anything going for it in particular. It's a low-quality drawing of a Pokémon allegedly shown in addition to the one we've all heard about - there's no reason ''everyone'' else would have reported exclusively on the larger form if this was actually shown, is there? - and the poster isn't even sure what it looked like, exactly, and is saying that "people" (without specifying who and without anyone actually backing the poster up) seem to think one attempt at drawing it is more accurate than the others, with exactly one person claiming it exists and nobody else even mentioning it as far as I can tell.
Is there a particular reason this fake should hold any amount of credence whatsoever? I just think it's a bit odd that, on a site that refused to even report on Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion until Diancie was revealed and very recently for the others because a staff member couldn't get them himself or herself, actually retweeting - and showing everyone who views the main page - something like this with only one source, even less information and only a low-quality drawing to show after denying the existence of Pokémon recorded in actual ''videos'' from a few sources, this particular post as if it should be considered any more believable than any other fake is... odd. And rather inconsistent with past standards. Why are we posting this on the main page after refusing to even mention ''much'' more believable information in the past before that was confirmed? (I know we label this as UNCONFIRMED. We didn't mention any of the aforementioned Pokémon even with such disclaimers. We're being inconsistent.) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 16:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
:This was an apparent new Pokémon shown in a teaser at the end of M18. These are not uncommon (Victini and Trevenant were revealed in the same way). Multiple trusted Japanese movie-goers have confirmed that such a creature appeared in the teaser. The larger creature was shown in CoroCoro (and I had thought it was also shown after the movie, at the pre-screenings, but maybe this was not the case). It's worth noting that the same sources that reported the CoroCoro creature also reported this.
:The poster is someone who personally attended the movie and drew it from memory. Since they couldn't pause a cinematic movie (and as far as I can tell, didn't draw the picture while it was on-screen), it is entirely reasonable that they cannot precisely remember what they saw.
:It's also worth pointing out that while associated, BulbaNewsNOW and Bulbapedia are managed separately, so something that consensus hasn't determined to be reliable on Bulbapedia may be considered reliable for BNN to report. Additionally, this particular piece of news was even labelled as unconfirmed (much to some people's chagrin, since it is quite clear this is legitimate).
:Also, not mentioning Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion was because they had been discovered by datamining and had not been officially revealed (on the other hand, this creature has been officially revealed, in a sense). While I disagreed with this stance, I understood it. '''Bulbapedia did not deny their existence''' after the community had accepted them (when we only had screenshots of the names on the GTS, there was some skepticism, but I think that was entirely reasonable). Even so, since Bulbapedia ''does'' mention Volcanion now, it would not be inconsistent anyway. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:53, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
::I knew about the larger form , but I wasn't aware that this was confirmed by the same moviegoers (or that there were more than one person backing up the "blob" to begin with!) as that because I had heard literally nothing about the "blob" until days ''after'' the larger form was shown in Corocoro. (In fairness, I also hadn't heard about the larger form before Corocoro, because everything I saw just said "Zygarde" and didn't even mention that it WAS a larger form, so I guess if people knew about that in advance, then that must back this up.) I was mainly suspicious because obviously the person had at least looked at it, and if it was as simple and mainly featureless as they claimed, it should be easy to remember better than they seemed to. But anyway, if they ''were'' revealed by the same people at the same time, then I guess that answers my question, so thanks. ^^ (And I didn't actually know that BNN is run by different people. That certainly explains it, haha. Good to know for the future.) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 17:20, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
:::The larger creature was first revealed in CoroCoro. You are correct that everyone assumed it was a Zygarde form though, which—although likely—has not been confirmed. These things weren't necessarily revealed by the same people at the same time either; CoroCoro officially released a few days before the movie's official launch (but after the pre-screenings, which probably didn't show the teaser), and the Japanese people who watched the movie aren't necessarily the same as the person who uploaded the scan of the CoroCoro page.
:::As for BNN being run by separate people, all the people who run it (including me, the official coordinator of it) have ties to Bulbapedia, and they're both part of Bulbagarden, so it's not entirely independent. However, the people who make editorial decisions about BNN are quite different to those who make editorial decisions about Bulbapedia. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:58, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Addition note: The large creature from CoroCoro also appears in the teaser. I failed to make that clear. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:13, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm actually ''more'' confused by that post than I was before, so while I believe the Pokémon exists now because Ihave seen multiple other sources backing it up elsewhere, I'm going to respond to that post anyway. XD
::::"The larger creature was first revealed in CoroCoro." You said in your previous post "It's worth noting that the same sources that reported the CoroCoro creature also reported this," so I'm kind of confused as to what happened. o.o Was the Zygarde-looking thing revealed by the same people who posted this, or was CoroCoro the first source that mentioned the Zygarde-looking thing? (CoroCoro obviously didn't post this, so it's not possible for both to be the case.)
::::Also, I said that people were saying it was a Zygarde (as in not ''even'' a form, but just acting like it was a normal Zygarde), giving an example of me obviously being out of the loop if we apparently did already know about the Zygarde form before Corocoro (which apparently we didn't if your second post is right instead of your first?).
::::The BNN thing makes sense, though, at least. XD [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 15:59, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Ah, okay, I get where you got confused. I meant all the same secondary sources who considered the CoroCoro page credible also considered this teaser credible, and both reported on it. I didn't mean that the information came from the same place. The giant creature people believe to be Zygarde was first seen in CoroCoro, but now has also been seen in the teaser (which did not air until after the official release of CoroCoro). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::''That'' makes sense. Okay, thanks! ^^ [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 20:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== Amy Palant photo ==
 
Hi,
I have color it Amy Palnats photo.
How I can uploud it?
And black & white picture are not good for this time.--[[User:Tinca14|Tinca14]] ([[User talk:Tinca14|talk]]) 17:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== "Genderless" vs "gender unknown" ==
 
I'm pretty sure some person in some building in Unova or Kalos said something to the effect of "Pokémon have genders, like humans. They can be male, female, or even have unknown genders!" If I'm remembering correctly, that would mean that "gender unknown" is a more official term than "genderless". To be clear, I'm referring to gender (e.g., in the sentence "Cryogonal is the only genderless Pokémon, other than Mew, that can learn Attract."), not Egg Group. Thoughts? [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 18:26, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
:Pokédex 3D Pro and the Pokédex on Pokemon.com use "unknown" under the gender field for Pokémon like Kyurem. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 18:33, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== Links ==
 
I don't know where else to put this so I put this here. The links to F-Zero Wiki, Hard Drop Tetris Wiki, Advance Wars Wiki and Lylat Wiki should not link to main page which they all do they should instead link to F-Zero Wiki, Tetris Wiki, Advance Wars Wiki and Lylat Wiki respectivly. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 20:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== Connection to Bulbagarden Forums keeps timing out ==
 
Is this a glitch, or are the forums down? If it is something on my end, how do I fix my connection to BGMf? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 21:56, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
:Someone else [[Talk:Bulbagarden forums#Forums are down?|noticed]] it too. I had trouble before too, but currently it seems like I'm able to get aruond, albeit slowly. For some reason, the first thread I tried to open seemed to time out into a "Database error" page (below), but a few minutes later, I was able to see it fine.
Database error in DragonByte SEO 2.0.0 Beta 3:
Invalid SQL:
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FROM dbtech_dbseo_keyword
ORDER BY priority DESC, keyword ASC;
MySQL Error  : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number  : 2006
Request Date  : Saturday, August 15th 2015 @ 10:03:13 PM
Error Date    : Saturday, August 15th 2015 @ 10:03:13 PM
Script        : http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=29680&page=25
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I learned that Hiroshi Yamauchi died so please add the news.
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:11, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
::And now it seems back to normal. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:17, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
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