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== Pokewalker ==
== Pokewalker ==


On the event {{pa|Rally}} and {{pa|Sightseeing}} courses, the player can get {{p|Sableye}} and {{p|Meowth}} respectively on both versions, though these are normally exclusives. Should this be mentioned? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 13:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
On the event {{pw|Rally}} and {{pw|Sightseeing}} courses, the player can get {{p|Sableye}} and {{p|Meowth}} respectively on both versions, though these are normally exclusives. Should this be mentioned? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 13:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt it. It's the case for lots of Pokéwalker courses... in fact, you can even get Pokémon you shouldn't be able to catch until after the National Dex. Maybe mentioning how the Pokéwalker changes the availability of Pokémon, but I wouldn't go beyond that. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt it. It's the case for lots of Pokéwalker courses... in fact, you can even get Pokémon you shouldn't be able to catch until after the National Dex. Maybe mentioning how the Pokéwalker changes the availability of Pokémon, but I wouldn't go beyond that. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


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Why were they added back? They are ''not'' version exclusives. They are obtaiable in both Black & White. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 10:59, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Why were they added back? They are ''not'' version exclusives. They are obtaiable in both Black & White. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 10:59, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
:My mistake, I got mixed up with the Black & White page. But they should still be removed, since they are not version exclusives. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 11:06, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
:My mistake, I got mixed up with the Black & White page. But they should still be removed, since they are not version exclusives. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 11:06, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
== Genesect ==
The Shock Drive and Burn Drive are exclusive to Black, while the Chill Drive and Douse Drive are exclusive to White, thus making Genesects "forms" version exclusives (without trading the items), but should they be included here? <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 21:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
:That is a very interesting point. Maybe since Genesect is not a true "Version Exclusive", but it's form is diffrent it should be mentioned on one of the trivia points below the version exclusive list for Generation V. That's just my idea. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 21:27, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
== Mystery Dungeon ==
Is it possible to evolve Porygon in Red Rescue Team? If yes, then Porygon2 isn't fully version-exclusive, since in Red Rescue Team it could be obtained by evolution (if it's possible to evolve Porygon in that game). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 08:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:Porygon can be evolved, but Porygon 2 still counts as a version exclusive because either way you need a wondermail code in order to get one of them in the other version. Just like evolved main series Pokémon are listed, despite being able to evolve them from their pre-evolved forms - because a trade must be done at some point to get them. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 22:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
== M14 ==
It has version exclusives, should they be added? Since there wouldn't be much point in making a page only for anime exclusives.
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<small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 18:18, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
:I think this would be a good idea. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
== Clamperl's Evolved Forms ==
You have to evolve Clamperl by TRADING. With an item. A DeepSeaTooth being traded with it will cause it to evolve into a Huntail, A DeepSeaScale Gorebyss. [[User:KirbyRider|KirbyRider]] 23:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Sawk and Throh ==
Following the links on their pages to each location they are allegedly available in, each lists Sawk as Black-exclusive and Throh as White-exclusive. There is no other information on how to obtain them in the Game Locations sections of their pages. If this is true, they should be added to the exclusives list. Otherwise, something needs to change on their pages. [[User:AsbestosBill|AsbestosBill]] 20:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yeah, hang on, Sawk and Throh are version exclusive. However, this article does not state this and nor do their respective articles. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::I've made the necessary changes to the three articles. I am 100% sure they are version exclusive as I have never found a wild Throh in my Black and each Route article and location article lists them as version exclusive. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Dammit, sorry guys, I missed the parts about them being found in rustling grass and have undone my edits. >_> ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::::You know, we should have a section for Pokémon with differing encounter rates in each version, like Nageki and Dakegi have. Or give it its own page. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 21:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
== Scyther and Pinsir ==
This page says that Scyther and Pinsir are both available in Blue Version, but both of their pages say they are unavailable in the Japanese Blue. Which is correct? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 06:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:Just noticed the same is true for Magmar. The page for Blue reflects Scyther and Pinsir being available in Blue, but Magmar being unobtainable [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 06:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
::English Blue version exclusives are the same as Japan's Green Version. Scyther, Pinsir and Magmar are all available in the Japanes Blue Version--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 07:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Are you completely sure about that? Both Magmar's page and the Blue Version page say that Magmar is not available. I just want to be sure there isn't any misinformation on here. [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 08:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well in that case... *fixes error*--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 08:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
== Latios/Latias in RS ==
I'm wondering if some note should be made about those two? Technically you can obtain both in one version, however, this requires the use of an outside event. The same goes for HGSS, actually. It doesn't have to be added to the table, per se, I just thought it might be worth noting. But maybe people feel otherwise? [[User:Tina|platinatina]] ([[User talk:Tina|talk]]) 00:19, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
== Seedot, Lotad and Surskit vs. Regice and Registeel. ==
So how it goes? Both require interaction with another game, and I just realized it's a {{tt|mess for these|The availability lists them normally, with (S)warm and E(volve)}}, because in the first two' articles they're version exclusive (Surskit is Emerald's swarm, so it's a different tale), but for the last two, it doesn't say that. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
== Move to "Game-Exclusive Pokémon" ==
I don't necessarily agree with this specific name as this will make it sound like you can only obtain that Pokémon in that specific game and none of the others. But it changes from generation to generation. That was just my initial thought on the matter. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 15:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:I agree that "game-exclusive Pokémon" is misleading. It may be more cumbersome, but I'd suggest some variation on "Pokémon that do not appear in all games in a group" (since, for example, it's not just generations; we also separate RSE from FRLG, DPPt from HGSS, and BW from B2W2). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:27, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::I suggested the move because it appears to be [http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon_101/game_exclusive/ the official name]. I'd rather keep it at this unofficial name than try and create some weird conjecture from "Pokémon that do not appear in all games in a group". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 19:37, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Ah! Didn't see that there was an official name. Well then, yes, I can't conceive of a legitimate argument against moving it eventually. It's just a matter of how long we want to wait to observe the official usage to ensure that it's not just a slapdash term on that page that is replaced by something else on another page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Can anyone find a second source that uses this phrase? If so then I would be in favor of the move since the word "Version" is already outdated by now (no Gen VI game uses the term anymore). [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 22:43, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
==Friend Safari==
Should it be noted that in X and Y, version exclusives can be found in the opposite version in the correct type Friend Safari sometimes?[[User:BraviaryGirl23|BraviaryGirl23]] ([[User talk:BraviaryGirl23|talk]]) 00:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
== There's a typo ==
In the Generation II section, it says that "Ekans and Sandslash can be obtained in Silver and Gold respectively as prizes from Goldenrod Game Corner". The prize in Gold is Sandshrew, not Sandslash.
[[User:AllAreEqual|AllAreEqual]] ([[User talk:AllAreEqual|talk]]) 19:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
:Fixed. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
== Kakuna can only be found in Wild for X, and Metapod can only be found for Y ==
Save for Friend Safari, of course, but that only counts for Kakuna. This should be listed here, alongside the version exclusives in Friend Safari. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 18:26, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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