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:::If you have a better fix, by all means, please! --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] ([[User talk:LaprasBoi|talk]]) 04:10, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | :::If you have a better fix, by all means, please! --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] ([[User talk:LaprasBoi|talk]]) 04:10, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
::::And [http://imgur.com/rJs9eET this] is what I see. The "Original" is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Gender&oldid=2010329#Trainers this revision], without the breaks, while the "Altered" is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Gender&oldid=2010317#Trainers this revision], with them. (I'm in Firefox 20.0 .) I'd honestly consider a solution that just sets the heights to be better...but I really wish I knew what was going on in the gulf between our browsers. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::Indeed. I still think my altered version is better than how Chrome displays the original version, but ideally we want it to look, in all browsers, the way the original looked in Firefox. Fixed heights could do it, but they would have to be readjusted if the sprites get swapped out for artwork soon. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] ([[User talk:LaprasBoi|talk]]) 05:05, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::::I think the best "solution" is to submit it as a bug to Chrome and let them fix it... I downloaded Chromium and looked for ways to fix it, but I can't find anything dynamic, that you wouldn't have to readjust if the images ever changed. And it's [[Giant Chasm#Layout|not only a problem]] here on the Gender page. Rather than trying to "fix" it everywhere where it might be a problem (and again, it'd be a custom solution for each case and would have to change if the thing it was calibrated for ever changed), I'd really rather just leave things as they are/were and tell Chrome to fix it once, on their end, instead. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:49, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== On the naming of the "Other single-gendered Pokemon" section == | |||
I think "Other single-gendered Pokemon" is a bad name for the section, because "Other" implies an original, a "Single-gendered Pokemon" section, or else "[SomeKindOf] single-gendered Pokemon" which has a separate set of single-gendered Pokemon. But there is no such section (not explicitly). In that whole "Pokemon" section, there's subheadings of "Gender Differences", "Related Species", and "Gender-based evolution". "Other single-gendered Pokemon" (the "Other" in particular) doesn't make sense among that company. | |||
What the section really is is, as I had it, "Single-gendered Pokemon families". The [[List of Pokémon by evolution family]] has absolutely no problem with "families" with only one Pokemon, so that shouldn't be a problem here either. "Single-gendered Pokemon families" is the most accurate/descriptive name for the section. Can we please just go with that? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
:"Other" as opposed to each of the former sections (aside from the gender differences, which really shouldn't be grouped with the rest) which each describe certain specific types of single-gendered Pokemon. I object to "Single-gendered Pokemon families" on two grounds: (1) because Pokemon that do not evolve are not part of an evolutionary family, and that list is wrong about this as well and I object to it on the same grounds; and (2) because we must '''either''' include something in the title to indicate that it is only talking about Pokemon not previously mentioned in earlier sections '''or''' repeat those Pokemon in this section. In the interest of avoiding redundancy, I prefer the former. | |||
:Would you be less uncomfortable with my preferred title if we instead had two sections titled "Gender differences" and "Single-gendered Pokemon," the latter having further subheads titled "Related species," "Gender-based evolution" and the section we're contesting? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Since you've gone and edited it already, I'll say sure. But I made a couple of adjustments to satisfy my qualms with it. Mainly, that the "Gender-based evolution" section wasn't actually talking about single-gendered Pokemon in particular; it was more about a basic mechanic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Non-aesthetic differences between player character genders == | |||
Aside from aesthetic differences like character sprite, bag, Pokégear/C-Gear/etc., what in-game events, Pokémon, or items are affected by the gender the player chose at the beginning of the game? The only ones I can think of at the moment are the [[Nimbasa_City#Rondez-View_Ferris_Wheel|Ferris Wheel trainers]] and [[Nimbasa_City#Pok.C3.A9mon|Yancy/Curtis]] in B/W/B2/W2. The latter is a pretty big consideration since those in-game trades are the only way to get the hidden abilities of Meowth, Shieldon, Mawile, and Teddiursa (male player character) or Mankey, Cranidos, Sableye, and Phanpy (female player character) other than the Dream World (which will soon be shut down) or trading with other players (not everyone has a reliable internet connection). I haven't played X/Y yet, so is there even more gender-exclusive stuff in those games? ~ [[User:Katrinuh|Katrinuh]] ([[User talk:Katrinuh|talk]]) 13:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== "Gender unknown" over "genderless" == | |||
This is what [[Pokédex 3D Pro]] (and maybe [[Pokédex 3D]], haven't verified) and the X and Y Postgame Guide/Pokédex calls Pokémon with no gender listed: "Gender unknown". Not "genderless", but "gender unknown". Thus, it may be incorrect to refer to such Pokémon as "genderless" if official sources say that their gender is unknown, and not simply having a lack of gender. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:#87CEEB">Pikachu Bros.</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]])</small> 17:49, 4 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== typing players == | |||
can't we do the players in typing adventure? --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 23:45, 15 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Mystery Dungeon genders == | |||
The genders are determined by the floor number of a dungeon. If the floor number is odd, or 1, 3, and so on, the Pokémon are male, if applicable. If the floor is even—2, 4, etc., the Pokémon are female. --[[User:Lillihaxo|Lillihaxo]] ([[User talk:Lillihaxo|talk]]) 03:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Interesting... I will try it, and if it works, I will (or you can) add it to the Trivia section. Thank you for giving an interesting Trivia! --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since]][[Special:Contributions/Pokéfan95|1995]]~~-- 08:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Your right. If the player is in an odd number floor, the wild Pokémon gender will be male, while if the player is in an even number floor, the wild Pokémon gender will be female. I will not add it in the Trivia section of this article, but I will add it somewhere. I will also try if it will work in Red Rescue Team (because I tried it in Explorers of Time.) Thank you! --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since]][[Special:Contributions/Pokéfan95|1995]]~~-- 02:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC) EDIT: I didn't find a good section to add this information, so I will add it to the Trivia section. Edit by: --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since]][[Special:Contributions/Pokéfan95|1995]]~~-- 03:04, 16 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::There were no genders in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Red and Blue Rescue Team. --[[User:Lillihaxo|Lillihaxo]] ([[User talk:Lillihaxo|talk]]) 03:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::Huh? But there were genders in the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games. Then why it is released in Gen III? Maybe what you are saying is it doesn't work there. --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since]][[Special:Contributions/Pokéfan95|1995]]~~-- 11:41, 16 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::In gameplay, there's no gender symbol displayed anywhere. This theoretically made Attract work on any Pokémon. --[[User:Lillihaxo|Lillihaxo]] ([[User talk:Lillihaxo|talk]]) 03:07, 18 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
<small>Resetting indent</small> Apparently, genders [https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1432451287024.jpg have influence.] [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 07:10, 24 May 2015 (UTC) | |||