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==November 2007: Beckett rumour==
==November 2007: Beckett rumour==
Here's my source: [http://www.pokebeach.com/#28197]. [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">S</span><span style="color: #550E01">h</span><span style="color: #880901">i</span><span style="color: #CC0500">n</span><span style="color: #FF0000">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">?</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #FF0000">!</span>]]</sup> 21:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's my source: [http://www.pokebeach.com/#28197]. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">S</span><span style="color: #550E01">h</span><span style="color: #880901">i</span><span style="color: #CC0500">n</span><span style="color: #FF0000">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #221202">?</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #FF0000">!</span>]]</sup> 21:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


:''but right now we can consider it a "rumor" until Nintendo or another source reveals new information''.  That's what your source says about this.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:''but right now we can consider it a "rumor" until Nintendo or another source reveals new information''.  That's what your source says about this.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm really wary of this. If there is a so-called Platinum, it wouldn't be a GS remake; did the RB remake come as one game? No, it was two. It wouldn't make sense, either, as DPv3, due to its name. I also tried to visit [www.pokemonplatinum.com Pokemonplatinum.com], no site. [www.pokemonamethyst.com Pokemonamethyst.com], however... that redirects to Nintendo...
::I'm really wary of this. If there is a so-called Platinum, it wouldn't be a GS remake; did the RB remake come as one game? No, it was two. It wouldn't make sense, either, as DPv3, due to its name. I also tried to visit [www.pokemonplatinum.com Pokemonplatinum.com], no site. [www.pokemonamethyst.com Pokemonamethyst.com], however... that redirects to Nintendo...


::Best possible course of action: someone contacts Beckett and asks where the hell they got the information. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::Best possible course of action: someone contacts Beckett and asks where the hell they got the information. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


:::That's wierd that it redirects to Nintendo site! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 15:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::That's wierd that it redirects to Nintendo site! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 15:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


::::It's not unusual.  Nintendo often reserve possible game names, many of which are not used.  If they haven't done so for Platinum, that would be more telling. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 15:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::::It's not unusual.  Nintendo often reserve possible game names, many of which are not used.  If they haven't done so for Platinum, that would be more telling. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 15:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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:::Sounds like a job for {{wp|Gamespot}}'s Rumor Control...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Sounds like a job for {{wp|Gamespot}}'s Rumor Control...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


::::Interesting.......But a new Ranger DS! That's cool! But that is good proof for Platinum Version....--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 15:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Interesting.......But a new Ranger DS! That's cool! But that is good proof for Platinum Version....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 15:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


:::::Deleted for now: While a third game to DP is inevitable, "Platinum" is still only in rumour territory right now.  As WPM pointed out, Beckett aren't that reliable for new game news. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 15:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Deleted for now: While a third game to DP is inevitable, "Platinum" is still only in rumour territory right now.  As WPM pointed out, Beckett aren't that reliable for new game news. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 15:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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No, Emerald too. But I ''think'' it has to be a non-Hoenn 'Dex Pokemon.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 14:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
No, Emerald too. But I ''think'' it has to be a non-Hoenn 'Dex Pokemon.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 14:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::nopes, after you get the national dex in emerald, any trade you do with R/S will give you the national dex in that game. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 23:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::nopes, after you get the national dex in emerald, any trade you do with R/S will give you the national dex in that game. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 23:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
No ,your forgeting that Giratina only changes into origin forme when its in the [[Torn World]] and since theres no Torn World in DP Giratina will only be in another forme.
From [[user:ultamatecharizard]].
:The new Platinum Orb can keep it in Origin Forme outside the Torn World.  Connecting the game to WiFi or to D/P, etc. disables the Orb and reverts Giratina back to its Another Forme.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 18:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


== and another thing ==
== and another thing ==
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:Well, certain areas or not, it's a new outfit. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 19:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, certain areas or not, it's a new outfit. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 19:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::We're still jumping to far too many conclusions here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::We're still jumping to far too many conclusions here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::This is just my guess but I think [[Lucas]]'s(If he gets a bew look) new look is going to be something like this [[Image:Koki_in_Platinum.PNG]] to comparison to this [[Image:Koki.png]]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:::This is just my guess but I think [[Lucas]]'s(If he gets a bew look) new look is going to be something like this to comparison to this --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


== A word of notice ==
== A word of notice ==
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== New Designs  ==
== New Designs  ==


I found this.Is this how they are going to look like?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC) [[Image:Personajesplatino11jun08.jpg|250px|From a Scan]]
I found this.Is this how they are going to look like?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)  
:Yes.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yes.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I was going to remove this; but then I realized this does have merit to the article. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 03:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I was going to remove this; but then I realized this does have merit to the article. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 03:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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I screenprinted these from some of the trailers and commercials. These are only a few of them and I'm too lazy to find them all. :P
I screenprinted these from some of the trailers and commercials. These are only a few of them and I'm too lazy to find them all. :P
[[Image:New_platinum_sprites.PNG]]
 
I like the Leafeon and Lucario sprites the most. The Pachirisu looks a bit funny though xD
I like the Leafeon and Lucario sprites the most. The Pachirisu looks a bit funny though xD
[[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 02:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
[[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 02:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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:::Same guys behind it last time... Zhen and a few of those over at PokéWiki. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Same guys behind it last time... Zhen and a few of those over at PokéWiki. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::::So we are just plain getting rid of the older DP standard sprites? That doesn't seem right. [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 14:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::::So we are just plain getting rid of the older DP standard sprites? That doesn't seem right. [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 14:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not rid of. We're replacing ###.png as we did when DP came out. The DP sprites will stay at Spr 4d ###.png, however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


== Mysterys pokémon = Rotom's new forms ==
== Mysterys pokémon = Rotom's new forms ==
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:O RLY? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:O RLY? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, and not only that, but the game was released today instead of September 13th as originally stated, as Serebii and some people on TV.com are stating the changes and adding to the websites. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, and not only that, but the game was released today instead of September 13th as originally stated, as Serebii and some people on TV.com are stating the changes and adding to the websites. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Well shit. There goes ''my'' plans for Friday. Now I gotta rushjob the updates... Quick, someone finish the moves! '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


== Released today ==
== Released today ==
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As you can see, this is the Platinum intro, and it's from a DS, and it was just posted today. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] <small>([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])</small> 22:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
As you can see, this is the Platinum intro, and it's from a DS, and it was just posted today. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] <small>([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])</small> 22:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:I bet it's an advance copy. Nintendo often sends games out to popular internet people for them to review and whatever. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:I bet it's an advance copy. Nintendo often sends games out to popular internet people for them to review and whatever. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Umm, Pikachu135111 and SPDShadowRanger got it as well, and while Pikachu maybe a popular internet reviewer, he isn't even in the same league as other critics. Besides which, SPDShadowRanger isn't really a well-known reviewer (he's more like an informant than an ACTUAL reviewer [By informant, I mean posting recent news, leaked or not on forums for everyone to see, not the "Squealer" kind of informant.].) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::That's called a "leak". Baby G and others, quit treating today as the release date. Nintendo said the 13th and so will this page.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
In no way are Pikachu135111 and myself reviewers. All we do it post the information for the TV.com community. Also I don't know what you classify as "well Known", but I doubt Pikachu is of that class. Also, we DO NOT have the game.
--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC) (AKA SPDShadowRanger)
Oh... you... weren't. My mistake. I thought that you did have it since you were commenting on it's changes as if you DID own the game, and as if it DID come out.
It's not a "leak". It's from a DS. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] <small>([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])</small> 20:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ever heard of an R4? Playing ROMs on actual DSes is possible and ''common''.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
::And even if it's an actual copy of the game, it's entirely possible some import site or Amazon Japan [etc., etc.] simply broke street date...which happened when DP was released in America.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:::There was a ROM leak. It's a small subject of discussion on 2ch right now.<br>However, most players with legality of ROMs in mind have obtained their Platinums today. --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 10:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
==Question==
I noticed many pokemon that are now in the sinnoh dex that werent before (such as gligar elekid houndour and snorunt) not having an in-game location for platinum. is this because they actually dont or cuz that information is not yet known? [[User:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF7070">Happi</span>]][[User talk:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF8000">zel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|<span style="color:#660099">pom</span>]] 01:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
is this
:You think we get all this data at once? It was a couple weeks, if not a couple months, before we had it all up from DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
so what ur saying is that you dont know yet? [[User:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF7070">Happi</span>]][[User talk:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF8000">zel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|<span style="color:#660099">pom</span>]] 05:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC) also im sorry for asking......
== Dialga and Palkia ==
Sorry if this has already been asked but are bot Dialga and Palkia catchable or do you have to trade them from D/P [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:Spear Pillar, both of them. Dialga before Palkia. [[User: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#0000ff;">tc</span>''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''<span style="color:#2929fb;">2</span>''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''<span style="color:#4b4bf8;">6</span>''']] 10:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
both of them are met at level 70, heatran at 50, the legendaary birds at 60, turnback cave's giratina chamber in Platinum now leads to a portal to the torn world in which the player can gain t he platinum orb.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Woa - so let me get this strait - you get to the top of Spear Piller - Battle and (hopefully) catch giratina - then you go finish the elite four & champ then you go back and get both of them - one strait after the other??? [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Well not really. First you get to Spear Pillar. Cyrus summons both Dialga and Palkia. Then Giratina jumps into the dimension, and opens up a portal to the Torn World. You catch Giratina in the Torn World. After you beat the E4 go back and you will see this blue energy thing, talk to it and you will battle Dialga at Lv. 70, then after that leave then come back and there will be the same thing however its pink and on the opposite side. This one is Palkia at Lv. 70. Then go to Turnback Cave and there will be a portal to the Torn World, however at a different spot. There you will find the Platinum Orb which will keep Giratina in its Origin Forme outside of the torn world. Hope that helps. [[User:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF7070">Happi</span>]][[User talk:Happizelpom|<span style="color:#FF8000">zel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|<span style="color:#660099">pom</span>]] 14:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
== Jasmine ==
Does Jasmine appear in Platinum? [[User:Kalot|K3000]] 21:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, yes she does. Same place she is in DP. --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 19:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
== Small storyline changes ==
Are small storyline changes notable? I mean the really small Gym Leader-to-Gym Leader interaction type ones, like the one with Maylene visiting Candice at Snowpoint City for a training match. --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 20:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
It depends on if it has any important part to the story. If you get to battle them though, THEN it should definitely be mentioned somewhere. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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