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 :"After watching your [Ash's] battle, I just couldn't stay still a second longer! And so, I left the [Cerulean] Gym with my sisters in charge, and started a journey!"
 :And while it's true that it doesn't use the exact word "quit" in there, it's pretty clear that's what's being implied especially when past episodes have made it clear that you can't engage in a Pokemon Journey while you're a Gym Leader (in fact, such a restraint was made explicit as early as [[EP005|Showdown at Pewter City]] from both Flint AND Brock, and I think Candace and Zoey both alluded to this restraint in that episode of Diamond and Pearl.). Besides, no one talks like that about a position they simply were on temporary leave from (I sure don't). That sounds more like the kind of talk a guy gives when he's about to quit his job for a better one. A good contrast would be her reappearance in Alola (second one) where she explicitly stated that a major part of why she went to Alola besides visiting Ash was to take a break from the swarms of Gym Challengers that were arriving. Either way, she definitely never mentioned the gym at all in JN147, much less resuming gym duties (the most we got was Brock eagerly telling Misty to say hi to her sisters for him before Croagunk toxic stabbed him), and considering most instances she either explicitly mentions she has to resume gym duties when she departs (Mirage Kingdom Arc, the Kanto, Alola arc) or otherwise its made very clear she had to resume Gym Duties (beginning of Battle Frontier where Daisy basically called Misty and threatened to hand badges out again if she didn't return, Mastermind as well since it's made explicit she was only there due to being invited alongside Oak and was most likely going to return to the Gym afterward), the fact that she makes absolutely NO mention of gym duties at all means she most likely wasn't going back to being a Gym Leader that time. Let's not forget, Brock also returned to Pewter City in the same episode, and he's repeatedly stated to no longer be a Gym Leader and thus obviously wasn't going to be resuming gym duties. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 12:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
+::Most of what you've outlined is your own headcanon with no real proof that she quit being a Gym Leader, which you also just admitted to.
+::''"I watched both Japanese with Subs and the English dub with Closed Captioning, and this is what she says when the topic is brought up:''
+::''"When I saw you [Satoshi] battling, I just couldn’t sit still! So I left Hanada Gym to my sisters and set off on a journey."''
+::''"After watching your [Ash's] battle, I just couldn't stay still a second longer! And so, I left the [Cerulean] Gym with my sisters in charge, and started a journey!"''
+::Yes, I also watched both. Again, there's no mention of her quitting.
+::"''And while it's true that it doesn't use the exact word "quit" in there, it's pretty clear that's what's being implied especially when past episodes have made it clear that you can't engage in a Pokemon Journey while you're a Gym Leader (in fact, such a restraint was made explicit as early as [[EP005|Showdown at Pewter City]] from both Flint AND Brock, and I think Candace and Zoey both alluded to this restraint in that episode of Diamond and Pearl.).''"
+::I'm pretty sure that you just can't leave a Gym '''unattended''' without another Gym Leader looking after it. Brock was able to leave on a journey after leaving Pewter Gym in Flint's care (and Lt. Surge also left Vermilion Gym in Visquez's care while he went on his own journey). Both Flint and Brock were considered official Gym Leaders even as late as DPS02.
+::"''Besides, no one talks like that about a position they simply were on temporary leave from (I sure don't). That sounds more like the kind of talk a guy gives when he's about to quit his job for a better one. A good contrast would be her reappearance in Alola (second one) where she explicitly stated that a major part of why she went to Alola besides visiting Ash was to take a break from the swarms of Gym Challengers that were arriving.''"
+::Firstly, you can't claim that "no one talks like that about a position they simply were on temporary leave from" when plenty of people watched that episode without ever getting the impression that she "quit". Secondly, this is speculation.
+::"''Either way, she definitely never mentioned the gym at all in JN147, much less resuming gym duties (the most we got was Brock eagerly telling Misty to say hi to her sisters for him before Croagunk toxic stabbed him), and considering most instances she either explicitly mentions she has to resume gym duties when she departs (Mirage Kingdom Arc, the Kanto, Alola arc) or otherwise its made very clear she had to resume Gym Duties (beginning of Battle Frontier where Daisy basically called Misty and threatened to hand badges out again if she didn't return, Mastermind as well since it's made explicit she was only there due to being invited alongside Oak and was most likely going to return to the Gym afterward), the fact that she makes absolutely NO mention of gym duties at all means she most likely wasn't going back to being a Gym Leader that time. Let's not forget, Brock also returned to Pewter City in the same episode, and he's repeatedly stated to no longer be a Gym Leader and thus obviously wasn't going to be resuming gym duties.''"
+::Most of this is speculation (outside of her not mentioning resuming Gym Leader duties). However, my reworded edit didn't say that she resumed her duties, just that her sisters look after the Gym when she's away.
+::I also maintain that you should not have reverted me twice before going to the talk page. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 13:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)