User talk:Pumpkinking0192/Archive 4: Difference between revisions

(Please don't be rude, and here's why it's relevant to a pulbic discussion and dangerous to Bulbapedia to use stuff like this.)
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:::...? This is clearly not "stealing". These sources are publicly crowdsourcing publicly available game data, the same way Bulbapedia gets data for ''all'' Pokemon games that we can't directly mine out of the game cartridge. Please don't butt into discussions that you don't understand and weren't involved in. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:33, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
:::...? This is clearly not "stealing". These sources are publicly crowdsourcing publicly available game data, the same way Bulbapedia gets data for ''all'' Pokemon games that we can't directly mine out of the game cartridge. Please don't butt into discussions that you don't understand and weren't involved in. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:33, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
::::There's multiple DMCA-style laws and Bulbapedia policy and/or precedent to consider. Reddit isn't reliable and TheSilphRoad themselves haven't given permission to US for use of their materials. Serebii is unreliable, does not condone stealing and is anon-permissible source. Eurogamer's material is copyrighted under EU law. Check official Bulbapedia source policies before saying I don't understand. This user is trying to get away with copyright infringement and plagiarism, which are forbidden. It doesn't matter where he got them. W/O  explicit permission from said content owners, Bulbapedia does NOT take nor source fan material, unlike Wikia and WIkipedia(which aren't reliable sources either). Since anyone can edit Reddit, it isn't reliable, and Eurogamer is a magazine, so its material is protected under EU copyright law.  Also, its forums are fan-edited, so, according to OFFICAL Bulbapedia policies and precedents, if anyone can edit it, it's not reliable. And anyone can enter and exit a discussion if they have something to add. Unless you can quote written(non- single-usertalk page)policy that explicitly states otherwise(and is on Bulbapedia ONLY(Namely, that isn't a Wikipedia policy on its way to being purged according to a long-delayed staff initiative in favor of a Bulbapedia-centric system)), I'll move on according to(and will follow)policy and go talk to a staff member about this. And don't be dismissive and snide when someone has something to add to a discussion that contrasts with you personal views and/or possible misconceptions. Try to stay "open-minded" like the above user thought you were being, and remember:A talk page isn't meant to be an echo chamber. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 05:15, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
::::There's multiple DMCA-style laws and Bulbapedia policy and/or precedent to consider. Reddit isn't reliable and TheSilphRoad themselves haven't given permission to US for use of their materials. Serebii is unreliable, does not condone stealing and is anon-permissible source. Eurogamer's material is copyrighted under EU law. Check official Bulbapedia source policies before saying I don't understand. This user is trying to get away with copyright infringement and plagiarism, which are forbidden. It doesn't matter where he got them. W/O  explicit permission from said content owners, Bulbapedia does NOT take nor source fan material, unlike Wikia and WIkipedia(which aren't reliable sources either). Since anyone can edit Reddit, it isn't reliable, and Eurogamer is a magazine, so its material is protected under EU copyright law.  Also, its forums are fan-edited, so, according to OFFICAL Bulbapedia policies and precedents, if anyone can edit it, it's not reliable. And anyone can enter and exit a discussion if they have something to add. Unless you can quote written(non- single-usertalk page)policy that explicitly states otherwise(and is on Bulbapedia ONLY(Namely, that isn't a Wikipedia policy on its way to being purged according to a long-delayed staff initiative in favor of a Bulbapedia-centric system)), I'll move on according to(and will follow)policy and go talk to a staff member about this. And don't be dismissive and snide when someone has something to add to a discussion that contrasts with you personal views and/or possible misconceptions. Try to stay "open-minded" like the above user thought you were being, and remember:A talk page isn't meant to be an echo chamber. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 05:15, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::If you want to take it to a staff member, be my guest. I'm not interested in trying to show you why you're wrong. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:19, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
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