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== Why Damion? ==

The fact that Damion is based on Diamond doesn't auromatically mean that it's his default English name. So, why is he identified as Damion in this article? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:Because he was referred as "Damion" in the game synopsis in D&P pre-release. - [[User:Mitsumasa|Mitsumasa]] 14:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
::Where is that synopsis? Is that OFFICIAL synopsis? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Sure it is, good man. Screenshots of the game show "Damion" as one of the listed names for him (the others are Barry, Tyson and Markus). - [[User:Mitsumasa|Mitsumasa]] 15:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
::::But Barry is on the top, Damion is not. So, Barry has higher "value". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::No, it doesn't. It's just "another" name. The order doesn't matter. Damion was used by Nintendo. - [[User:Mitsumasa|Mitsumasa]] 21:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Where was Damion used? Because you said on the name list, but Barry's there also. So, where is it used, besides in the game itself? Did Nintendo refer to him as Damion during an interview, and can you link me to it? Do they refer to him as Barry also? - [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 7:06 PM, April 17, 2007

:Could someone post the article where Nintendo uses Damion, and the video where it shows the list of names for the rival?--[[User:DSDark|DSDark]] 16:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

::We have Damion's optional Pearl names. Is he still Damion? - [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 2:26 PM April 22, 2007

(I have a topic about this on the BMGf, but I think I should also adress it here.) I think the in-game data should be taken at more value than even Nintnedo's word, or guides (which they apparently have used "Gary" for Blue.) That said, I also don't think we've ever deviated from using a name if the game dosen't randomize it when we enter a blank name in-game.

With Diamond being the 'primary' version, if you enter his name in blank, it comes up as "Pearl". If I'm not mistaken this is exactly how we get Blue's name in the original versions.

I'd still like to see some of Nintnedo's use of the name, regardless.
--[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 05:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The guide is up on BT.  Anyone have the pages which refer to him as Damion? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
:He's simply called "[your] rival".--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Then I agree this should be moved to "Pearl (game)". Any objections? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 23:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I object. BTW, I thought that Blue got his name from GSC? - [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] May 4th

Yes, I found out that I was wrong about the Blue thing. My mistake. I still think it's a working argument when compared to characters like Gold, Kris, and Silver (I'm told Crystal version gives you the name Silver by default.)
--[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 10:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me but after I got my Luxray to Lv. 100 I battled Pearl but his pokémon had reached levels above 70, should that be added?[[User:Nobody|TheRampardosMaster]] 18:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:Make a note of the new levels next time you battle him and post them here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Staraptor Lv 68, Floatzel Lv 69, Rapidash Lv 69, Snorlax Lv 70, Torterra  Lv 74, Heracross Lv 70
[[User:Nobody|TheRampardosMaster]] 05:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:He's not lying. I checked in-game Trainer list and there is a data for such battle. Yeah. I just have a question. Where did you battle him with such team? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, after I beat him at the Battle Zone the first time I decided to go to the pokémon league so I could train my lv 75 Luxray to lv 100, 2 weeks later my Luxray reached 100 and so I decided to look for Cresselia and Giratina the only 2 non-event legendaries I didnt own and when I caught them I went back to the Battle Zone to challenge him and my lv 100 Luxray was the first one in my party and when the battle started all his pokémon were stronger than before and thats all I recall doing, but if anyone is interested in seeing the match I plan on posting the battle on youtube later this week, so if anyone wants to see it contact my user page and I'll direct you to my user page on youtube, I hope this helps. [[User:Nobody|TheRampardosMaster]] 05:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure your rival's level goes up because you beat the Elite Four 20 times. Or something like that. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

His levels increase by ten after you become a 20-time champion (i.e. beat the crap of of Cynthia 20 times) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 12:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:In theory, this makes him the strongest NPC trainer ever! Even stronger than [[Red (game)|Red]]! --[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's because he trains and Red doesn't ^^; [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 11:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:First of all, in case you are under the impression that his team reaches level 100, that is false. The game data puts his ''final'' team in the 68-74 range, with his starter at level 74. This means that Pearl's team is below that of Green (Blue's Japanese name and English name in the context of FireRed and LeafGreen), whose starter manages to reach level 75 post-Sevii Islands (the minimum level on his updated team is 72). Next in line is Steven, whose Metagross makes it to level 78 in Emerald (the minimum level is 75). Last but not least (and the first chronologically) is Red, whose Pikachu remains the highest-leveled Pokémon at 81, surpassing even wild Arceus. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 11:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh...so that means I can still beat the crap out of him after maxing out my team's level...<span style="background:#000000">'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<font color=blue>Ph34r4ever</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|<font color=navy>Talk page]][[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|<span class="buttonlink" title="GeminiSpark!">♊</span></font>]]</sup></sc></span>{{{1|10:05 9 Feb 2008}}}
''' 10:05, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

About the name again... isn't it a little strange call him "Pearl" when there is no "Diamond" in the games?... I still think we should call him "Barry"... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 17:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:That's for the forums, not here. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 01:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Resemblance? ==

Has anyone noted that Pearl seems inspired in design from [[wp:List_of_Mother_3_characters#Lucas|Lucas]] of Mother 3? Or has it already been placed on this page and removed?

== Time of appearance ==

Well, it's currently Saturday right now, yet Pearl doesn't seem to show up where he's supposed to in the Fight Area. It's night though, which might mean he only shows up on weekends during daytime. Anyone able to confirm this? It might be worth mentioning it in the article if this is the case. --[[User:Thembi|Thembi]] 22:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
:He shows up at night. There must be something wrong with the date of your game. '''<span style="background:#4B0082">[[User:Pachirisulover12|<span style="color:#FFD700">PL</span>]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|<span style="color:#FFA500">12</span>]]</span>''' 22:34, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
::He shows up at 12:00 AM in your game on Saturday morning... provided you didn't save it in the Fight Area Friday night before turning it off or arrived in the Fight Area one minute before it hit 12. Enter and then leave and there he is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Unfortunately, no. I just noticed he doesn't show up for me during daytime either, however, and yeah, I've tried exiting and reentering in a number of ways, still no Pearl. I'm starting to think it might be necessary to fill some criteria in order to make him appear; any thoughts? (Also, in case you're wondering, I gained access to the Fight Area without using cheats of any kind, so it's not that)--[[User:Thembi|Thembi]] 08:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Odd... he's always been there for me... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah... he doesn't seem to show up around Stark Mountain either. --[[User:Thembi|Thembi]] 08:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::You sure your game isn't just glitched up...? I don't think you have too do anything/fill in some criteria for him to appear there...I might be wrong though...[[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]]|<span style="color:#F4C2C2"> サソデイ = 愛</span> 09:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It could be, but naturally, I'd like to at least try and find an explanation for the problem... He still doesn't appear (checked last weekend). I'm starting to wonder if this could have something to do with my first venture into Stark Mountain; I got Buck to join, but then pretty much ditched him and got out of there (resulting in him not appearing when I go back, haven't checked if I'm still able to get Heatran). Might be a bit far fetched, but it's one of the only explanations I can come up with. I also realize I've had Emerald in the DS every time I've checked for him, I'll remove it next time and see if it has anything to do with it, though I don't really see how... --[[User:Thembi|Thembi]] 18:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Ummmm, Im getting the same problem, I dont see Pearl at all in the Fight Area, and its daytime right now, 12:44pm. I havent gone to Stark Mountain at all in reply to Thembi...[[User:Zolt991|Zolt991]] 19:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Disambiguation page? ==
This really needs a disambiguation for [[Jun (Ihara)|Jun]]. I'd make one myself, but I don't know how to yet. --[[User:Jennyrogue|JennyRogue]]

== Platinum characters ==

Shouldn't Pearl be included in the Platinum characters category? Platinum artwork of him confirms he appears in the game.

== His Pokémon? ==
Should they be left as pure text, or converted to team boxes to look tidier?
Edits earlier made the whole article look a mess. [[User:Gywall|<span style="color:#FF8800">'''Gyw</span><span style="color:#FFAE00">all'''</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])</sup> 10:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

== Weavile ==

I heard that in a new trailer for Platinum, there was a double battle between the player and rival and Flint and Volkner. I also heard that in the trailer, he owned a Weavile. Should this be noted? [[User:Garrison12795|<span style="color:##03C03C">Garr</span>]][[Ludicolo (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#03C03C">ison</span>]][[User talk:Garrison12795|<span style="color:#03C03C">12795</span>]] 06:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Data ==

This section's REALLY confusing... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== New Name? ==

Since I was under the impression that Silver was Silver because both Gold and Crystal had listed that as the default name, would we call Pearl one of the ingame names if a name used in Platinum is the same default in either Diamond and Pearl? Example: They use Barry in Diamond as the first default, and use Barry again in Platinum, could that be enough to make it the "unofficial" offical name? Or whatever name it comes up with (Diamond/Pearl) if we enter the name in blank since two out of the three versions agree.

Actually since people have JP Diamond, can they confirm what his default name is again if you enter it blank?--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 02:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:I suggest you look at the discussion at the top of this page. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 03:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

::I did. He's called Pearl because that's Diamond's default name. We got Blue's name from GSC, and Silver's name from G/C and Kris because Crystal is the only game she appeared in leaving Gold as the only unclaimed name. However, what I am asking is what happens if Platinum's default name does not agree with Diamond but agrees with Pearl's (which I assume is Diamond). If two out of three versions would claim it as his name, that seems official enough. So I'm just wondering what Platinum's default name is. Though we consider DIamond to be the "primary" game, Pearl shares more characteristics with older primary games with its red-themed colour and Palkia being later in the dex, and Platinum's preference to Palkia's statue in Eterna city. I'm just wondering what its default name is, and that if it isn't Pearl but Diamond, would it be enough to change the article name? I guess I could check around on the forums for its default name and let the issue die if it is Pearl.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 03:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I think the bigger question, if the rival's name in Pt is Diamond, would be if it's supposed to be Pokémon Pearl and Diamond, rather than Diamond and Pearl. I mean, all stuff's used D/P, but... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh also, the Eterna statue is kinda the same thing as Kyogre being in the Seafloor Cavern and Aqua's hideout being in Lilycove's cove. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I Think his Japanese name is Jun because The Name "Jun" Is a Random name In the Japanese Versions Of D/P [[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 04:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Having just got Platinum, I can say for sure that if you don't specify a name for Pearl, the game will randomly pick either Diamond or Pearl. [[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 23:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Shouldnt We Mention...==
That he is Going to Appear in the Anime Soon?{{Unsigned|Envidia}}
:Unconfirmed.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|<font color="green">K</font>]][[Gary's Blastoise|<font color="green">kl</font>]][[Blastoise (TCG)|<font color="black">l</font>]][[User:Kkllnn|<font color="pink">nn</font>]] <small>[[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]]</small> 23:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::Not only unconfirmed, but that would be like making part of {{ga|Blue}}'s page dedicated to [[Gary]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Unprotect ==

Shouldn't this article be unprotected? It's already proven Jun ''is'' Pearl. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 14:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think so. For all we saw in the preview, Jun is for an article. Something like [[Jun (anime)]], and not for "In the anime" in this article. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <small>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </small> 16:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::Jun should go in the anime section similar to [[Brendan]], [[Misty]] and [[Brock]]. [[DP100]] can at least be unprotected. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 19:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh...this is the page for the character Pearl?  Oh, I thought it was talking about Pearl as in Diamond and Pearl...no wonder why your comments did not make sense...but this just proves that the name should be changed.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 04:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pt Arwork ==

I don't mean to start edit war with Matt, but he insists to replace the current image with pic 2.
<gallery>
File:Jun Platinum.png|1
File:Junplatinum.jpg|2
</gallery>
Decide for which you think is better. I say pic 1. '''<span style="color:#E3E3E3">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:yes, I must agree that the first picture is better. Its larger and better quality.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh, Clarky, in terms of size, the second is bigger. =.= '''<span style="color:#E3E3E3">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Hehe, why so it is. But the first doesn't have such a giant white section around it, if that's clear enough O.o--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::::I think the first pic is better. It has no white space and the second one, at that size, seems to have some odd artifacts or whatever. At least on my screen. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 14:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::I can clear it up for ya, if needed. I have the editing tools.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|<span style="color:#FE2E9A">''Mew''</span>]] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 12:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Do that then.--'''[[User:Prongs|<span style="font-family:Comic Sands MS; color:gold;">Prongs</span>]] <sub>'''([[User Talk:Prongs|<span style="color:black;">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|<span style="color:black;">Contributions</span>]])'''</sub> 12:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Great!!!! We need the best pictures to be the best Pokémon pedia.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 12:22, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::::And consult {{u|Sketch}} or TTE before replacing the image, please. '''<span style="color:#E3E3E3">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 12:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)