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==Name==
Bulbanews says it's Chiramii, with one 'a'.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 12:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
==Physiology for the admins to implement==
Chiramii is a furry, white-colored rodent-like Pokémon, sporting scruffs of fur on its head, ear insides, and neck. Chiramii’s large ears, located to the sides of its head, have red insides partly covered by the aforementioned tufts of fur there. Its eyes are large and brown, with a small, dot-like nose. Its limbs are somewhat rounded and small, and its tail is long and particularly furry. (I hope that this description is phrased well, I felt that it was more repetitive than the others....) [[User:Steph|Steph]] 16:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done, thanks for writing these. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 20:59, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::I think the description should include that it is actually a light grey, and only has white on the tips of its ears and tail... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 19:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== National Dex Number ==

Since Chiramii is number 78 in the isshu dex, that means it's number 571 in the national dex. You guys (the admins) think you could add that to the stuff n such? -[[User:Carrottime]]
:It doesn't always work like that. The Isshu dex may have Pokémon that are already known, like how Magikarp and Gyarados are found in the Sinnoh dex. Since they're already in the National dex, the Sinnoh dex doesn't match up exactly with the National dex. The same probably goes for Isshu, so we'll just have to wait until we know exactly what it is. '''<span style="font-family: Verdana;">~ [[User:Sol|<span style="color:#0080ff;">sol</span>]][[User talk:Sol|<span style="color:#4090ff;">ar</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|<span style="color:#a8d3ff;">is</span>]]</span>''' 19:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
::This is old, but since it's confirmed that there are only Isshu Pokémon in the Pokédex, and because Minezumi was assumed to be 504 because its Dex number is 10, shouldn't this be assumed as 571? [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 00:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:::If it's IDex number is 010, then it should be #503 in the NatDex... &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 00:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry about that. That was a typo. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 01:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Looks like we've got a new Bulbagarden mascot then... &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:02, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Romanization==
Shouldn't we use a better romanized name, like we did back in [[Generation IV]]? It can be replaced when the trademarked romaji comes out. Since we all know its name comes from ''chinchilla'', it would be more correct to use Chillamii, Chillami, Chillamie or Chillamy. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 06:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:We're not supposed to until trademarked Romaji comes out. But there is no reason for this page to be at an incorrect Hepburn Romanization.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Name origin.It might be a mixture of chinchilla and "チラ見(chirami)".  ==

チラ見(chirami) is a lovely gesture that the child does. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 15:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:You may want to explain a little more about the gesture. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 15:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

::Chirami is a gesture of the line of vision. If the child does chirami, it becomes a very lovely gesture. If the adult does chirami, it becomes an unpleasant act. (lol . [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 15:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I still don't get it....--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 16:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I think he means, like...averting your eyes and looking up occasionally? ("chirachira" is intermittently, "mi" is look) When a kid does it it seems cute and bashful, but an adult doing it is never positive (he doesn't have the balls to look me in the eye or he's just disrespecting me, etc.).—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It can literally be translated as "glancing look."  Pretty much what Uru said... except that I think what Sawamular was saying is that if an adult does it, it's generally in a sexual/seductive manner. XD <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 19:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::And I think it is just coincidence that Chiramii has that in its name, it doesn't seem to be a Pokémon that would glance at people. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 19:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::: Mr. Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ perfectly represented what I had wanted to say. Thank you for supplementing my explanation. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 05:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::: If "チラ見(chirami)" is in fact the insperation for the name it could be a refrence to it having a cute and childlike appeal. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 12:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Questionable Grammer ==
May I please do something about some of the grammer in the physiology descriptions of some of the pokémon. "Ear insides" come on guys, it should be "the inside of its ears". In the futur I would hope to see beter grammer, as it makes the articles sound more professional.[[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 10:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think you should also improve your grammar as well. But I somewhat agree... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 04:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Sorry but my gramer gets sloppy if I have no reason to correct it (this is not the actual article). Thanks for backing me up though. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 11:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I think it best be left to an admin.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 04:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Given that the grammar is questionable, {{tt|as opposed to bad|i.e. it's not perfect, but it is easily understandable}}, we have bigger things to worry about at the moment. But if you want to rewrite it or fix stuff, post it here and we can put it in the article. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 04:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Realy it is mostly the "ear insides" thing that bothers me. I have seen this in pages from Venusaur to Chiramii (there is a possible 68 pages were this errer might be), with permission I would like to go back and change this... over the next 23 days. (stupid editing limit!) [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 8:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::I think "ear insides" sounds pretty stupid too... though it doesn't help that I'm not a fan of the physiology sections in the first place. Anyways, I edited it out of {{p|Venusaur}}, and if you see any more, please feel free to edit it yourself or post a note on the talk page. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 16:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::This idea was a bust. I just got a message saying the edits are not helping the articles and that I should stop. There are simply to many edits. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 1:46 20 July 2010

==Evolution==
Okay I know we don't have any info on the evolutions of Chiramii but couldn't we say something like "It Is Unknown Wether This Pokemon Can Evolve Or Not" not something like giving it only one stage and saying its "Unevolved". The first time I saw it I was like "WHAAATTTTTT???!!!!!!" It could cause confusion to other people who don't know and Pokemon besides freakin' Pikachu. And remeber peoples, CHIRAMII IS SPELLED WITH ONE A, NOT TWO, ONE. ONE A. NOT TWO, ONE. ONNNNNEEEEEEE. [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 12:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, that template is there to show that is has no confirmed evolutions or pre-evolutions. I don't really like having it there, but I do see why it should be there. I don't know why it would be so confusing to people who don't know Pokémon besides Pikachu. Finally, it is not spelled anywhere on the article with two 'A's, so I don't see why you are making a point of this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'm just saying if a person stumbled upon this site somehow and saw that at first glance that Chiramii was not evolved because of our limited info they might think that Chiramii was a one-evolution pokemon he/she might go out and tell his/her friends and bam you've got a group of people with the wrong info. The way that its presented it just confusing, that's all. So I was wondering if we could make it ''less'' confusing. And also if you type in "Chiraamii" or "Chiramii" in the search bar it leads to the same page, there's a similar problem with "Zoroa"/"Zorua". However for that case we have an evolution so I think it should be "Zoroa" to go along with "Zoroa"rk(Zoroark). I know that this will all be fixed when the english comes out but for now I'm just trying to make everything less confusing. [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 13:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It's called redirects.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 06:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Exactally just do that, but even then its the wrong spelling and is giving you something else. But still, what else can a person mean if they type in "Chiraamii"? XD [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 15:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::If someone searches for "Chiraamii", they will be redirected to "Chiramii". This is so that someone who has romanised the name differently can still locate the page with the correct spelling.
:::::As for the presentation of the information, I don't believe it's misleading. We just don't know, so it's better to show it as a singular, unevolved Pokémon until we know otherwise. {{p|Munna}}'s page said "unevolved" before we knew it evolved into {{p|Musharna}} because... we didn't know. I know that pages such as {{p|Tauros}} have the line "It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon", though I think with the pages for new Pokémon nobody's bothered because new information is revealed every 5 minutes. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 15:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Also, think back to [[Generation II]]. When {{p|Togepi}} was revealed, did people assume it was an evolved Pokémon or that it would evolve? No, we had no idea, so pretty much every source (like [[The Official Pokémon Handbook]]) just presented it as a single Pokémon. We're doing the same thing. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 15:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Scyther. Tangela. Wobbuffet. Present it as a single-stage Pokémon until we get more information. For Scyther that took until Gen II, Tangela, Gen IV, Wobbuffet, Gen III. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sweep Binta ==
[http://www.filb.de/1353 Filb.de] has video of Chiramii using a move called スイープビンタ　''Sweep Binta'' on Munna. ''Binta'' translates as "slap in the face". So my guess is this will likely be translated as "Sweep Slap", and it appears to be a multi-hit move.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 08:20, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Chillarmy ==
From Serebii

<blockquote>The Japanese Trademark database has been updated with a few new trademarks for the Japanese names of the Pokémon. As always, most recently seen with Victini this weekend, the Pokémon get their Japanese names as well as an official romanisation, being the Japanese name stated in English. Usually, we just include the literal translation of the names until we get the romanisation. Well, today we have received the official romanisation for the Pokémon Chiramii (チラーミィ). It's official romanisation is Chillarmy, derived from Chinchilla and army.</blockquote>

--[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 13:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:Application No. 2010-046299. チラーミィ＼ＣＨＩＬＬＡＲＭＹ--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 14:36, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::...well as long as it's sourced. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

==Habitat==
Hey, can an admin add to the habitat section that they are known to live in forests? A trailer showed the player walking in a forest, then encountering a wild Chillarmy. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 19:28, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Army ==

It's just as based on "army" as Himanuts is based on "nuts", Dirteng is based on "dirt" and Dogohmb is based on... nevermind. Don't trust trademarked Romaji. It's just a pile of stupid Engrish. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

:This, sorta. I honestly doubt it is a combination of chinchilla and army. I mean, how exactly does army come into place? According to its translated Pokédex entry, it has nothing in common with troops or anything. I seriously doubt it's 'army'. I think it's possibly a corruption or a shorter form of a different word. And for the record, how do we pronounce its name again? [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 20:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::CHEE RA MEE. Dirteng's definitely a combination of dirt and tengu, though. Its feet and nose indicate that much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Not so much, it's way more likely based on "dark" than "dirt". And also, that -u from "tengu" is gone for no reason, which also obscures the meaning. So still, it doesn't change my point at all. Trademarked Romaji aren't really the "correct" Romaji. They're just used on merch, that's all. They are often made of Engrish and fail to convey the intended meaning (like "Prasle" for Plusle). I don't really see how would Chillarmy be related to army. It doesn't wear a uniform or anything. -army is just an Anglicized phonetic spelling of -aamyi, which probably has some Japanese etymology (or is just some kind of sound effect). "Army" doesn't make any kind of sense. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I took it to come from the faux word "Charmy" or something. Or just "Charm" with a -y. Makes sense when you consider it has Cute Charm. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]<sup>[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]</sup> 22:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Was this an official romanization? If not, I think it should be moved back. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 22:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, it's official. '''<span style="font-family: Verdana;">~ [[User:Sol|<span style="color:#0080ff;">sol</span>]][[User talk:Sol|<span style="color:#4090ff;">ar</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|<span style="color:#a8d3ff;">is</span>]]</span>''' 22:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Kay. But I agree with the above statement. It sounds like a combination of chinchilla and charmy/charm. Not army. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 22:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'm convinced on charm, as it fits it unlike army. Could an admin edit the Name Origin then? [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 23:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Why can't we put something like "The name is likely based on chinchilla and charmy.  It is also possible that it is derived from army", or something like that.  It's been done in some other name origins, since charmy doesnt sound right, and army doesn't fit with Chillarmy. [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 15:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::It should be described that it is one of the possibilities if there is no source.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:25, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to interrupt, but it shows '(Japanese: チラーミィ Chillarmy) is a Normal-type Pokémon introduced in Generation V.' which states Chillarmy's Japanese name is the latter, when it is actually: Chiramii is the Japanese Name, whereas Chillarmy is the Romanization, a.k.a English name. -Naruruler12
:Please sign your talk page comments with four tildes, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Also, Chillarmy doesn't yet have an official English name; that is the trademarked romanization that has been trademarked by Game Freak in the Japanese Patent Office. Basically, it's Gamefreak telling us how the Japanese name is ''meant to be'' pronounced, rather than how the katakana would literally be pronounced. Every Pokémon in Generations I through IV is the same way. You can see all of the trademarked romanizations on the [[List of Japanese Pokémon names]]. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 14:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Gender Ratio ==
I have a question about Chillarmy's and its evo's gender ratio as to whether it is actually 75% female and 25% male. Has this actually been proven to be true as it seemed that they were a 50-50% ratio when I was playing white (numerous males appeared). I also feel to bring this up as it seems that Chillarmy and its evo doesn't look that feminine as much as well in my opinion. Therefore, I was just wondering if it is actually confirmed that this is the ratio? -Cadet Furret 21:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)