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==In need of a trainer who lives in the US and can get me the upcoming Arceus event==
Hi, I live in the States, but am on vacation outside of the states and will be missing the upcoming arceus event that is on november 7-15. I need someone to get me one at the event with nature adamant (soft reset) date November 7 and above all legit. I will offer any event I have and would be very very grateful to finally hav my own arceus. Thanks. If interested write on my talk page.

Plat. FC: 5327-8285-9714 (Cayman)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=370 i'm pretty sure there's somewhere on the forums where you could do this].--'''[[Water (type)|<font color="#6890F0">Liquid</font>]]''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="#6890F0">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 00:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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== Your so-called "God pokemon" ==

Are NOT alowed here. Please stop. <sup>Birthday!</sup> ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 02:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Shut up, no one likes Cubone - its an ugly mole with a bone it found. {{unsigned|LugiaRocks}}
:You REALLY deserved that block. ''Loser'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 01:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Dude, the second I joined and made my first edit you reverted the changes and said that I basically didn't belong here and btw you too have quite the history - you and MAGNEDETH really don't get along... soo you shouldn't be talking . {{unsigned|LugiaRocks}}
:Yes it is true I have quite the past, and I'm not proud of it. Unless you're infiblocked of go away forever, you'll probably say you have quite the past too. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 01:30, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Once you're back ==

Please do not create multiple accounts. This one will serve you fine. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I never did... {{unsigned|LugiaRocks}}

== Preview Button ==

please use it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 00:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Removing talk page comments, including the initial welcome template, is prohibited per Bulbapedia's {{bp|talk page|talk page policy}}. Please do not remove any comments in the future. If you wish to clean old comments away, you should archive your talk page instead. Thank you! --''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 01:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Relax dude ==

dont get into arguments with users, and furthermore, dont insult other users, and finally, dont remove comments from your talk page. if you intend to stick around the site, youre going to need a serious attitude adjustment, because im not going to take it, and neither will any other admin. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:38, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Please==
Please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) so that everyone knows who put the comment there. Thanks! ----'''<font color="purple">Toxic</font>''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="purple">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 03:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Also, please don't re-sign comments, as it usually gives the wrong timestamp and is not allowed.--'''<font color="purple">Toxic</font>''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="purple">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 03:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::Don't rapid edit... it got me in a million edit conflicts just to get back to you... ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 03:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::sry - also how do you put tags on your userspace? like this users birthday is... ? [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaRocks]] 03:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::::<nowiki>{{TEMPLATE NAME|CUSTOMIZATION (if any)}}</nowiki> ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 03:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::thanks [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaRocks]] 03:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just copy-paste from other user's pages, but make sure to change whatever you have to and not edit their page by accident. Oh, and try editing the mainspace, you're coming dangerously close to a talk warning...--'''<font color="purple">Toxic</font>''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="purple">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 03:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's <nowiki>{{User Birthday|September 25}}</nowiki> ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 04:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Mainspace? sry kinda a noob here :( [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaRocks]] 04:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Mainspace is any page that doesn't start with User:, Shipping:, Bulbapedia:, or a talk page. So basically a regular article in Bulbapedia [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::For example, {{p|Cubone|This}} is mainspace, {{u|CuboneKing|this}} and [[Shipping:PearlShipping|this]] isn't. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 04:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaRocks]] 04:05, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Seeing that you are having some trouble with user tags, you can see a complete list at [[Bulbapedia:Usertags]]. Their title is what you put on the page!--<span style="border: 2px solid #00CCCC">[[User:GreenGyarados|<span style="color:#00FF00">♫Green</span>]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#0BDA51">♫ギャラドス♫</span>]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|<span style="color:#00CCCC">Talk♫</span>]]</span> 04:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
==Hi==
I noticed you have been editing the <code>User:</code> namespace a lot recently. You may not be aware of this, but Bulbapedia has a {{bp|Userspace policy}} that asks users to try and minimize the number of userspace edits they make in a short period of time. Instead of making multiple edits, why not use the Preview button (Alt + Shift + P) located right next to the edit button to look at your page and see how it is coming? That way, your page can look great while staying within the required amount of edits. Instead of editing the userspace, as a wiki, we encourage users to edit the mainspace. So, if you edit the mainspace more often, you will be allowed to edit the userspace more. Thanks! ----'''<font color="purple">Toxic</font>''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="purple">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 04:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
==Please...==
You've been making too many edits to the <code>User talk:</code> namespace lately. Please take your conversations to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/ the forums], a chatroom, e-mail, an IM service, or something similar, as that many edits will slow down the server. ----'''<font color="purple">Toxic</font>''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="purple">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 04:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, this is customary :/--'''<font color="purple">Toxic</font>''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="purple">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 04:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Hold on!==
If you did not read your last warning, then please read it now. You have edited the <code>User:</code> namespace too much. Please do not edit your page any more for now. Thank you. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#00AF33;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#F8D030;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d8;">'''ピカチュウ!'''</span>]] 04:27, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Stop.==
Do not edit the <code>User:</code> namespace any more. In the past, we were not allowed to edit our pages ''at all'' because of users over-editing their pages. If you edit your page any more without making some edits to the mainspace, then the privilege for you to edit the userspace will be removed. --- [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 23:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry my bad... kinda went psycho. sorry. won't happen again. [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaRocks]] 23:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
::It happened again. You can have these privileges back once you show us that you deserve them. For now, you've lost them. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:20, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

==Redirect links==
What I'm working on involves changing redirect links so they link to the actual page. On the English VA page, Lugia was linked to <nowiki>{{OBP|Lugia|movie 2}}</nowiki> ([[Lugia (movie 2)]]) because that is the actual title. Now, if on the page is showed "Lugia (movie 2)", I would have put this: <nowiki>{{OBP|Lugia|movie 2|Lugia (The Power of One)}}</nowiki> ({{OBP|Lugia|movie 2|Lugia (The Power of One)}}) so it would have stayed the same in appearance. --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 19:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

== Pokedex ==

It's best not to get into an edit war with an admin. Respect my decision. "It folds like a DS" is not good enough to say it looks like a DSi. By that logic, the Sinnoh dex also looks like a DSi (actually, it looks more like a DSi then the Johto one). The Johto dex is slim and the DSi had the same shape as the DS Lite. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 02:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:I can have an opinion, can I not? Plus you are kind of abusing your power (I'm likely to be banned for a week for this, but I just feel that its unfair). Whatever - you win. [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 02:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yes you can. But if someone else disagrees then you should respect theirs. If you think that it looks like a DSi, fine. But others don't. I believe [[Harley]] is gay and that's not allowed on Bulbapedia either. I believe [[Hermione]] looks like Edna Mode but I'm not allowed to put that down either. Deal with it. Your not the only one who isn't allowed to post opinions. Now stop whining about this being an abuse of power because it isn't. I'm frankly sick of people telling me I'm abusing my power when I'm just trying to make an article better. Besides, another admin undid your last edit. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 02:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm sorry you feel that way. 'But if someone else disagrees then you should respect theirs.' Really? [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 02:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::*their opinion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 02:46, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Looks like you didn't respect mine... because you are a higher authority admin - am i correct? [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 02:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::It looks like you're not really getting what Kenji-girl is trying to say.  This is an '''encyclopedia'''.  '''Facts''' belong in encyclopedias.  '''Opinions''' do not.  And removing an opinion from this encyclopedia is not an "abuse of power." <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 02:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well, I along with others could count it in as a fact. I wasn't the one who put that they look like the current handheld system, that proves that others consider it a fact. Whatever - you're right. Kenji-girl wasn't abusing her power, I was abusing the policy of editing a page. [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 03:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Lots of people sincerely believe that the world will end in 2012.  They consider it to be fact.  That doesn't mean that it ''is''.  It's still an opinion, even if it's wide-spread.  Now, saying that the Johto Pokedex shares some similarities with the DSi in that it features a dual-screen interface with a touch screen and something round and shiny on the lid, ''that'' can be considered factual.  Whether it's worth noting is debatable, though. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 03:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I believe I just apologized don't be a smart aleck. I realize that I was wrong...[[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 03:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Okay, this is for the comment Lugia after my latest one.. You are wrong. You can believe it looks like the DSi. But if someone else doesn't, then it shouldn't be in the article. And even if I wasn't an admin, I would have removed it anyway. See the funny thing about admins... you kinda have to listen to them. They run this place. You wouldn't go against the order of your coach or teacher, now would you. Opinions are not allowed in the main articles. End of discussion. A lot of my opinions aren't allowed here either. And others agree with them, just like the agree with the Johto dex looking like the DSi. That doesn't mean that they are anymore allowable. The point is, there are people out there who don't believe it. If you were allowed to keep it in the article, then wouldn't be just as unfair to me, someone who doesn't think it looks like the DSi? <strike>I really don't want to ban you but you are on the verge of insubordination by being disrespectful to me with your snide remarks and sarcasm. Please don't point the finger at Umeko when you are don't the same thing.</strike> I hope you understand now and that we can finally end this. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::I retract the insubordination comment. Sorry. But the rest stands firm. I'll leave you alone now. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, I'm sorry. [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 03:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, um, just for the record, I wasn't trying to be a smart aleck in my last comment; I'm sorry if it came across that way, I was just trying to explain why many people believing something didn't make it fact, since it seemed like that's what ''you'' were trying to insist upon (I sincerely apologize if that was a misinterpretation on my part!).  And I recognized that you realized you were wrong, which is why I said nothing on that subject.  I just kind of thought an analogy was in order, to clear things up.  Sorry if I came across as a troublemaker. :P <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks. I'm sorry too. Let's end this :] [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 03:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Sounds good~ <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 03:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Safari ==

I can't give you a 100% answer on this, because I've not explicitly ATTEMPTED it; however, in all the times I visited there before I got the dex they didn't appear. That's in no way conclusive, of course- I may just have missed them- but I did not see them. I'd say test it yourself, if you have the time- I'd not trust me xD But no, I didn't see them in any of my attempts.<br>
~ '''[[User:Ginkumo|<span style="color:silver">ぎんくも</span>]]''' | '''[[User talk:Ginkumo|<span style="color:goldenrod">♫ </span>]]''' 05:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, thanks. I'll try it on HG [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 16:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== Instead of edit sections at different times ==

Try editing the whole page at once so you don't keep saving over and over again. Thanks. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 02:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
: Sorry, haha. I didn't mean to just keep changing and changing. But, I would edit and then notice something else to edit. My bad, I'll try reading the whole thing for corrections/errors before hand. Thanks for the heads up. :) [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 02:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Yo dude ==

Better slow down the userpage editing... [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 05:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:k - that was my last userspace edit for a while. sorry :p [[User:LugiaRocks|&#39;&#39;&#39;LugiaRox&#39;&#39;&#39;]] 05:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::It's alright :) [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 05:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 05:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

seriously, stop. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 18:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:sorry. :( [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 06:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 20:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Also, no images are allowed in your signature per the {{bp|signature policy}}. Please update this. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry, will do. But, no images whatsoever? Do I have to get rid of my Lugia gallery? [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 06:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Wait -nvrmind. I thought you were talking about my userpage. Phew. [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 06:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== Welcome back to abuse ==

yes, you did a pretty decent job when you were in abuse of showing us you know how to edit productively, but as soon as we let you out it was the same 'ol abuse as before. so, if keeping you in abuse is the only way to get you to edit productively then i guess thats what its going to take. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 00:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)