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==Scoring?==
How do we know for sure that shinyness and other factors don't affect the scores?  I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Unless shininess affects the stats (which, I've found, it doesn't) then it won't affect the score. The score is determined by the overall stats and the amount of health remaining. For further details, look a couple topics down. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Crystal Catchability ==

According to the [[National Park]] page, [[Paras]] cannot be obtained outside the bug catching contest. If this is true, not only does this page contain false information, it leaves [[Venonat]] as the only Pokémon catchable outside the contest leading me to want this

:"Except for Caterpie and Metapod in Gold, and Weedle and Kakuna in Silver, none of the above Pokémon are seen in the National Park outside the Bug-Catching Contest. In Pokémon Crystal, however, only Butterfree, Beedrill, Scyther, and Pinsir are not available in the wild outside of the contest." 

change to this

:"Except for Caterpie and Metapod in Gold, and Weedle and Kakuna in Silver, none of the above Pokémon are seen in the National Park outside the Bug-Catching Contest. In Pokémon Crystal, however, Venonat is also available in the wild outside the contest."

or something similar. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Point System ==

Does anyone understand the point system? How does it work? Also, there are specific trainer names that reoccur. Check on it. I'll write it down as well. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Cooltrainer Nick usually always wins with a Butterfree. --[[User:PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''Psychic'''</sup>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#000000;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''<small>''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''☮'''</sup>]]''</small> 00:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I spent a lot of time studying the numbers and this appears to be how the score is determined: it is the combined stats (attack + defense + special attack + special defense + speed) times a multiplier (which I've found ranged from about 1.8 to 3.0. The multiplier's primarily affected by the health of the pokemon when it's caught. If you catch one without weakening it at all, you get the highest possible multiplier. Whether or not this is affected by a change in the pokemon's status condition, I'm not sure. Plus I think number of rounds taken to capture and/or number of pokeballs used in the attempt might affect the multiplier. But this appears to be the primary conditions: stats and remaining hp. I've caught a level 15 Pinsir and not even registered in the rankings because I caught it with about 4 hp remaining, but have won using a level 13 Venonat which still had all of its hp. Rarity and level affect the stats... sort of. The rarer pokemon on the field tend to have higher stats, and of course level affects stats. But if you can catch something without damaging it, you have a pretty good chance at winning. This last time, I got first place on the first try and that didn't happen hardly ever before I discovered this. (Btw, this was discovered using SoulSilver(Jpn).) --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:05, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I may have been premature on this. After continued study, it looks as though the length of time taken to capture or number of failed attempts may have a more significant impact on the score. I caught a level 14 Pinsir and won, but the point multiplier was barely above 2.0 (stats totaled 157, winning score was 336... I was expecting something about 100 points higher.) It took several rounds to capture this one... so... I'll continue to study this and report any further findings. I won't be satisfied until I know the mathematical formula of exactly how the score is determined. It's a question which has haunted me since G/S/C first came out. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 18:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== HG/SS Bug Catching Levels ==

From my experiences, the levels of the Wild Pokémon found  are the exact same as they were from Gen II. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! [[User:Shoy|Shoy]] 08:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:At the very least I doubt you can catch Weedle at level 35... [[User:Derian|&#91;&#91;Derian&#93;&#93;]] 15:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and the rarity appears to be the same as well. However, after obtaining the National Pokedex, more bug-types become available. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Prizes ==
According to serebii.net, it's possible to win other stones besides the [[Sun Stone]] if you win first place, in HG/SS. http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/nationalpark.shtml So far, I've only won Sun Stones for getting first place, however. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:You probably have to get the National Dex first. Otherwise, you could get Pokes not in the Johto Dex like Mismagius and Honchkrow. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Is there someway that we could categorize the prizes as Post-national Dex as the Sun Stone is the only item that you can get for placing in first place without the National Dex. Thanks.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|<span style="color:#000">Master</span>]][[User:MasterKenobi|<span style="color:#0000CC">Kenobi</span>]]''' 20:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Really? i need a Water Stone, but you say that a Water Stone is obtainable when get the National Dex, right, for now the only 1st prize is a Sun Stone always, right?

== Umm... ==

I caught a level 31 Weedle last Tuesday in the contest. I also saw a level 31 Caterpie as well. But I wouldn't wanna go and change it without permission.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:Gold color light;">''ポケモン恋人''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:Silver color light;">''(チャット)''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|<span style="color:Crystal color light;">''(貢献)''</span>]] 23:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Permission granted. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 00:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== A Winner Is You Trivia, Incorrect. ==

I can confirm (with a screenshot if needed) that the trainer Don, when spoken to after you win the Bug-Catching Contest, does -not- say "A winner is you?!" He says, "You won? The winner is you?!" Which could very easily just be an exclamation, and not a reference to a meme at all. {{unsigned|Erikhogue}}

== GS/SS Levels ==

Are we sure that those levels given are ALWAYS present, and they don't increase after a point in the game? Makes a lot more sense than the current set-up which seems to imply the bugs go up to Level 30 at any point in the game. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)