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Notability requirements This notability policy was created after a flooding of the Anime Pokémon section of Bulbapedia with many articles that failed to meet notability standards. After many discussions among Bulbapedia users on talk pages, the forums and meetings, these rules were written down to finally determine which articles should be redirected and which should be kept.

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7- Pokémon that belong to characters of the day are never notable for their own article. However, in rare instances, an exception may be made if the Pokémon itself was a character of the day. - unsigned comment from Hikaru Wazana (talkcontribs)

Pikachu was more of the character of the day in that episode than Kangaskhan, after all, that's who the episode was about. Secondly, the title is not official.--ForceFire 05:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
What is the best title for this page? And my thinking is that this page is about two characters that are in an important part of Pikachu's past, they have a plot with the character. And well, if it were human characters they would get a page right away. Even if it's not the biological mother, I know a saying that "the mother is the one who cares" or something like this.
What does this page need to have to go to the main space? I mean, supposing these characters never appear in the anime again.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 12:21, 08 December 2019 (UTC)
If the Kangaskhan reappear in a future episode, that might lead to it being mainspaced.--BigDocFan (talk) 15:25, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
I don't think they're notable enough to get an article of their own unless they reappear at some point in the future, as BigDocFan said. Even then, we're going to have to evaluate whether they should have an article of their own or simply stay at the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime article. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:47, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Err ... I'm sorry, Grammar(especially if I didn't get it right). How exactly are these characters not notable? Bulbapedia maintains pages of Pokémon that had no fundamental point in the anime's canon (like, Orville, I mean, what does this Pokémon represent for anime today?). I agree (and wish) that they would have more appearances going forward. But I don't see any difference from these characters for who knows, Nanny Nanny and PopPop, Delia Ketchum or Johanna(In fact, we have more information about these Pokémon than some of Brock's brothers).
Its the family of a character that appeared during the thousand and one hundred episodes of the anime, had their unique characteristics and personalities shown and had a role within the plot. Even, the message and the way it was passed was one of the most touching moments in the anime.I found it strange that no one had done this page before. I will leave the decision to all of you on the staff, but I believe I have already left my opinion about it.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 03:21, 09 December 2019 (UTC)
First off, I believe Orville should be deleted, considering it's just a one-time Pokémon character. Second off, the difference between the Kangaskhan and all the human characters you just mentioned is that the Kangaskhan have appeared only once (so far) in the anime, while the humans have appeared and were mentioned at least twice. Third off, your rationale for the creation of such an article is opinionated; according to your aforementioned rationales, we should have also made a whole bunch of articles for all the major wild Pokémon Ash befriended in his travels, such as Butterfree, Vivillon, and Litleo. I see no difference between the Kangaskhan and any of those examples if that is the case. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 04:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
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