Purpose
I am sorry, but is there a reason this article exists? Usually these articles serve a purpose of some sort? felinoel 11:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- It lists all the type specialists. I mean, why do we need a list of clothing in the anime? I think this is more useful than that. --ケンジのガール 17:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
- Why indeed? o.O felinoel 17:38, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
"The Johto Elite Four"
Let's get one thing straight cause I'm sick of having to fix it. THERE IS NO ELITE FOUR IN JOHTO. There never was and there never will be. Will, Koga, and Karen all work in the Indigo Plateau. The Indigo Plateau is in KANTO. Not Johto. They are all part of the Kanto Elite Four. Their even listed in the article. Got it? I don't want to have to fix it again. --ケンジのガール 04:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, I was trying to make Koga and Karen's entries consistent with Will's. I'm also not entirely sure there is a consensus here, as the pages on Will, Koga, Karen and Bruno all refer to them being in the "Johto Elite Four", and the page on Elite Four uses only the neutral term "Kanto/Johto Elite Four". Personally, I prefer the latter term, as they are the Elite Four of the Indigo League, which spans both Kanto and Johto, despite the location of the Indigo Plateau. Smithers888 15:45, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Table of Gym Leaders and Elite Fours
| Type | Kanto Gyms | Indigo League Elite Four | Johto Gyms | Hoenn Gyms | Hoenn Elite Four | Sinnoh Gyms | Sinnoh Elite Four | Isshu Gyms | Isshu Elite Four | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RGBYFRLG | GSCHGSS | RGBYFRLG | GSCHGSS | GSCHGSS | RS | E | RS | E | DPPt | DPPt | B | W | BW | |
| Normal | Whitney | Norman | Aloe | |||||||||||
| Fighting | Bruno | Chuck | Brawly | Maylene | Renbu | |||||||||
| Flying | Falkner | Winona | Fuuro | |||||||||||
| Poison | Koga | Janine | Koga | |||||||||||
| Ground | Giovanni | Bertha | Yacon | |||||||||||
| Rock | Brock | Roxanne | Roark | |||||||||||
| Bug | Bugsy | Aaron | Arti | |||||||||||
| Ghost | Agatha | Morty | Phoebe | Fantina | Shikimi | |||||||||
| Steel | Jasmine | Steven Stone | Byron | |||||||||||
| Fire | Blaine | Flannery | Flint | Pod* | ||||||||||
| Water | Misty | Wallace | Juan | Wallace | Crasher Wake | Corn* | ||||||||
| Grass | Erika | Gardenia | Dent* | |||||||||||
| Electric | Lt. Surge | Wattson | Volkner | Kamitsure | ||||||||||
| Psychic | Sabrina | Will | Tate and Liza | Lucian | Caitlin | |||||||||
| Ice | Lorelei | Pryce | Glacia | Candice | Hachiku | |||||||||
| Dragon | Lance | Clair | Drake | Shaga | Iris | |||||||||
| Dark | Karen | Sidney | Giima | |||||||||||
| Various | Blue | Blue | Cynthia | Alder | ||||||||||
Trivia:
- Emerald was the only game where an Elite Four member used the same Type as a Gym Leader, other than the Johto-based games which had 21 Gym Leaders and Elite Four combined.
- Only in Generations II and III does the Champion have a specialist Type.
- Not counting remakes, Poison has not appeared for the longest time; it has not appeared since the Generation II introduced Johto, whereas all other Types have appeared at least twice since.
Does anyone else find this interesting? Could it be included on this page or somewhere else? Smithers888 16:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, yes, it is interesting... but it's also huge! I don't know where we could work a template of this size into. Besides, it's also not the most attractive—not to disparage your work, but lots of white space does not an attractive template make. I'd say it's easier to just go without. --AndyPKMN 18:00, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Move
Since I suggested it, I agree with the move as "type specialist" is not really used anywhere while "type expert" is the name of a PWT tournament. --Abcboy (talk) 05:16, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Who qualifies?
First, I feel the definition of a "Type Specialist" should be better defined. Who should we consider a type specialist? For instance, Aqua Admin Shelly is considered a Water-type specialist, but in the games, she only has two Pokémon, with only one being a Water-type. In fact, she has more Dark-types in her party than Water types. Shouldn't she be considered a Dark-type trainer instead?
Second, should a game character be listed if their type preference only appears in anime canon? (i.e. Greta and Anabel) - Chosen of Mana 16:10, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Monotype
Hi, I was wondering, can we make a redirect to this page using the word "monotype"? I think a sizeable amount of the fandom refers to a "type specialist" as a "monotype specialist". Malenfant (talk) 22:33, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Should rest of the PBR classes and trainers, and other GBA TCG games characters be here?
If they should, I or someone else need to add them in. Trainer Yusuf (talk) 13:55, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Suggestion
Could I add Team Flare Grunts to the list of Dark-type experts, because in the anime, good Arceus, almost every Pokemon of there's has at least part Dark-type. Team Plasma Grunts are also listed, but they don't really use that many Dark-types compared to Team Flare Grunts. Playerking95 (talk) 06:20, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Defining a Type Expert
I think it might be best to change "specializes in just one type" to "tends to use Pokémon of just one type". It's kind of a small difference, but a number of specialists stray from their typing-Lorlei uses a Slowbro, all three Striaton leaders use a Lillipup, Aaron uses a Drapion, Karen uses a number of Pokémon that aren't Dark-type, Lance uses a Gyarados and an Aerodactyl, Clair uses both of those and a Charizard, Volkner uses an Octillery, Bruno uses an Onix, Flint only uses two Fire-types in his Diamond and Pearl battle-the list goes on.
For trainer classes, are they listed as type experts if one of them uses Pokémon of one type, or if all of them use Pokémon of one type? If it's the latter, I think the Furisode Girls should be removed from the Fairy-type specialists list. Though five of them exclusively use Fairy-types, four of them don't use any Fairy-types at all.
TechSkylander1518 (talk) 18:16, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Dexio and Sina
Should Dexio and Sina be listed as Psychic and Ice type-experts, respectively? In Sun and Moon they both use exclusively one type, they're just as notable as Ryuki, and Dexio's page links to this one. AmoongussForLife (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Dexio should be listed here, yes. As for Sina, as you can see from looking at the hidden note on her page and the associated history and talk pages, the staff have repeatedly and emphatically deemed her not an Ice-type expert, as she only uses two Pokémon outside battle facilities, which is not enough to judge by (not to mention that she uses more non-Ice-types than Ice-types in those facilities). Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:25, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Specialists?
I don't know if it's me, or it feels like it's rather unfair to have minor, one-time appearance characters as "specialists" but the more advanced trainers like the Champion not included. Not to say that they're not type experts, but could there be like an "other" category for prominent characters like that that don't necessarily stick to one type? - unsigned comment from RexAtchen (talk • contribs)
Update this page
This page doesn't match Bulbapedia style and standards. I like this version, would there be any issue if I'd fix that? I also think about splitting notable trainers, from trainer classes and anime exclusives--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 16:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
PWT Type experts
So, I was wondering why are the Type Experts from the PWT(Bonnie, Walter, etc) not included in the lists? I know they are technically not a unique Trainer class, but they are more notable, unique characters, and I feel they deserve a mention on the list. Can anyone look into this before I add them... Thanks. Harryghost (talk) 11:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
ORAS Battle Resort Trainers
Since PWT and Wyndom Stadium expert were added shouldn't the 5 from Battle Resort also be added?:
- Carnation for Grass
- Antoin for Poison
- Josephine for Fairy
- Kelvin for Ground
- Felix for Bug
- unsigned comment from Lord Godwin (talk • contribs)
Jupiter and Saturn in BDSP
So in the Battle Tower in ORAS Jupiter team is all Dark and Saturn all Poison, shouldn't they be considered Type Experts for those.
It's a bit sad Mars didn't follow with Normao-types and Cyrus with Flying types (even though his final Battle Team is 3/4 Flying). Lord Godwin (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Suggestion
I've made a redesign of this page, if anyone likes that or would like to add something, please reply. I hope we could make a permanent change.--Rocket Grunt 23:14, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- My first instinct is I think it's an improvement, though I'd prefer the first two tables be a little less fancy (more table-/list-like, less colors).
- (Also worth noting that I believe doing an edit with the intent to undo it immediately after isn't really wise - and that showcasing ideas is/should be one of the prime use case for user pages.) Nescientist (talk) 12:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! About the undo, I don't think it should be a problem at all. There are already hundreds of edits saved in all pages' histories and making a subpage for an edit that I've done in one try seemed unnecessary besides, it's not against the rules.--Rocket Grunt 13:19, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Adding the new link here so that other people can comment: User:Team Rocket Grunt/Type expert. For what it's worth, I also agree that this is a step in the right direction. I also agree with Nescientist that the first table is a tad too colorful but otherwise, yeah it looks good. Landfish7 22:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! About the undo, I don't think it should be a problem at all. There are already hundreds of edits saved in all pages' histories and making a subpage for an edit that I've done in one try seemed unnecessary besides, it's not against the rules.--Rocket Grunt 13:19, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Ogre Clan Members?
So similar to the PWT members, Gym Challengers, Battle Resort Trainers etc should Ogre Clan members be also added? I know some are dual type (Dark/Ghost, Fire/Grass, Rock/Ice) I believe they still should be counted?:-) - unsigned comment from Lord Godwin (talk • contribs)