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Is it just me or is the Croagunk Evolution family giving us the bird? (Look at the red part of it's hand! am i the first to notice this?) --[[User:Fakachu|Fakachu]] 01:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC) | Is it just me or is the Croagunk Evolution family giving us the bird? (Look at the red part of it's hand! am i the first to notice this?) --[[User:Fakachu|Fakachu]] 01:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
Why aren't the different sprites of Toxicroak seen in the page? Shouldn't it be there? | Why aren't the different sprites of Toxicroak seen in the page? Shouldn't it be there? {{ani|448}}[[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]]{{ani|447}}[[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]]{{ani|448}} 13:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:I think we didn't upload them yet (don't ask me to!) {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:02 7 Mar 2008}}}''' | :I think we didn't upload them yet (don't ask me to!) {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:02 7 Mar 2008}}}''' | ||
::I saw one of the sprites on [[Saturn]]'s page. | ::I saw one of the sprites on [[Saturn]]'s page. {{ani|448}}[[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]]{{ani|447}}[[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]]{{ani|448}} 13:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::That was the basic shiny sprite...not the ones that added the 'm' and 'f'...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:15 7 Mar 2008}}}''' | :::That was the basic shiny sprite...not the ones that added the 'm' and 'f'...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:15 7 Mar 2008}}}''' | ||
::::But don't we add the shiny sprites to the article as well? | ::::But don't we add the shiny sprites to the article as well? {{ani|448}}[[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]]{{ani|447}}[[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]]{{ani|448}} 13:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Is Saturn's shiny or not I mean it looks shiny but ppl say it isn't and I'm confused! | Is Saturn's shiny or not I mean it looks shiny but ppl say it isn't and I'm confused! | ||
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:Wait, I'll settle the sprite prob first... | :Wait, I'll settle the sprite prob first... | ||
{{png| | {{png|454 s}} and {{png|Spr 4d 454 m s}} or {{png|454 s f}}. See? {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:37 7 Mar 2008}}}''' | ||
Does the Pokédex [entry] look absolutely exactly like the Toxicroak? Strange.. my Pokédex, despite a shiny Flygon being the first Flygon I had, it doesn't list it as shiny. <small>I know about the anime =/= games thing, but STILL!</small> Also, look at Croagunk, and compare it to the regular sprite. Orange and blue. Typical. Now compare Toxicroak to the POKÉDEX image and the sprite. Damn different. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]</sup>{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 16:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | Does the Pokédex [entry] look absolutely exactly like the Toxicroak? Strange.. my Pokédex, despite a shiny Flygon being the first Flygon I had, it doesn't list it as shiny. <small>I know about the anime =/= games thing, but STILL!</small> Also, look at Croagunk, and compare it to the regular sprite. Orange and blue. Typical. Now compare Toxicroak to the POKÉDEX image and the sprite. Damn different. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]</sup>{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 16:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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** If '''yes''', Toxicroak is shiny. | ** If '''yes''', Toxicroak is shiny. | ||
** If '''no''', Toxicroak is ''not'' shiny. | ** If '''no''', Toxicroak is ''not'' shiny. | ||
Can't get simpler than that. Personally I blame GameFreak for not being creative with their shiny colours (tch, light blue!). (P.S. I haven't seen the episode so I can't answer the question.) [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup> | Can't get simpler than that. Personally I blame GameFreak for not being creative with their shiny colours (tch, light blue!). (P.S. I haven't seen the episode so I can't answer the question.) [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup>{{ani|486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]]</sup> 18:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
I saw the episode and their wasn´t a sparkle. there was a effect which some people might think is the shiny effect, but it was just for show of and was shown like this several time before that on non-shiny pokemon. My Pokédex argument still stands. | I saw the episode and their wasn´t a sparkle. there was a effect which some people might think is the shiny effect, but it was just for show of and was shown like this several time before that on non-shiny pokemon. My Pokédex argument still stands. | ||
DocDoak, 18:19 7 March, 2008 | DocDoak, 18:19 7 March, 2008 | ||
All right, this debate on whether that Toxicroak is shiny or not is really getting out of hand. If the Toxicroak was really shiny, wouldn't someone mention something about it being shiny (I'm talking about in the show). But no one said anything about it. It was like with anything else. They see a Pokémon, scan it and the episode goes on. I am not saying the Toxicroak is not shiny but wouldn't it be better to wait for another Toxicroak to appear and note whether they have same color or not. If they do, it's definitely not shiny but if the other one is blue instead, we can agree this one is shiny. | All right, this debate on whether that Toxicroak is shiny or not is really getting out of hand. If the Toxicroak was really shiny, wouldn't someone mention something about it being shiny (I'm talking about in the show). But no one said anything about it. It was like with anything else. They see a Pokémon, scan it and the episode goes on. I am not saying the Toxicroak is not shiny but wouldn't it be better to wait for another Toxicroak to appear and note whether they have same color or not. If they do, it's definitely not shiny but if the other one is blue instead, we can agree this one is shiny. {{ani|448}}[[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]]{{ani|447}}[[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]]{{ani|448}} 18:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Yeah, I agree. That is the reason why I edited "speculated to be shiny" in the article inthe last few days, but for some reason, people edited it away. I still think that the toys, the episode and the pokedex pretty much confirm that it isn´t shiny,but I can agree on a "unsure if shiny or not"-compromise. | Yeah, I agree. That is the reason why I edited "speculated to be shiny" in the article inthe last few days, but for some reason, people edited it away. I still think that the toys, the episode and the pokedex pretty much confirm that it isn´t shiny,but I can agree on a "unsure if shiny or not"-compromise. | ||
DocDoak, 18:29, 7 March 2008 | DocDoak, 18:29, 7 March 2008 | ||
:If an admin leaves it shiny for now, then leave it. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup> | :If an admin leaves it shiny for now, then leave it. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup>{{ani|486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]]</sup> 18:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
I will, WHEN an admin will do it. And , seriously, why can´t you answer on my points about it being not a shiny pokemon? Just stopping the discussion won´t get you any further.. | I will, WHEN an admin will do it. And , seriously, why can´t you answer on my points about it being not a shiny pokemon? Just stopping the discussion won´t get you any further.. | ||
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::At this point, I think we should do more research on that green-eyed {{p|Jigglypuff}} in [[AG138]]...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ::At this point, I think we should do more research on that green-eyed {{p|Jigglypuff}} in [[AG138]]...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:I've seen the sticker with anime's version of Toxicroak certain time ago and it was colored just like in this episode. This means it's just anime coloration and Toxicroak wasn't shiny. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | :I've seen the sticker with anime's version of Toxicroak certain time ago and it was colored just like in this episode. This means it's just anime coloration and Toxicroak wasn't shiny. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::I agree. I don't think it was shiny as much as I think it's the anime's way of coloring it. I mean look at [[Ash's Gligar]]. It's pink for crying out loud. -- | ::I agree. I don't think it was shiny as much as I think it's the anime's way of coloring it. I mean look at [[Ash's Gligar]]. It's pink for crying out loud. --{{ani|048}}'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''{{ani|183}}'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''{{ani|123}} 03:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Yes but the difference is that Gligar's Shiny form is Blue not pink --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | Yes but the difference is that Gligar's Shiny form is Blue not pink --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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I'd say take this as you will. I for one believe the Toxicroak in question is shiny because the 'light' it comes from promptly turns into smaller star shaped lights before disappearing...--[[User:Tsum|Tsum]] [http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/Umuru/Toxicroak.jpg] | I'd say take this as you will. I for one believe the Toxicroak in question is shiny because the 'light' it comes from promptly turns into smaller star shaped lights before disappearing...--[[User:Tsum|Tsum]] [http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/Umuru/Toxicroak.jpg] | ||
:To Dman dustin, I brought up Gligar as an example of how the anime changes the color of Pokémon. Besides, Toxicroak in the anime had differences from the shiny form. It has a much more tourquoise tone and the sack under its chin was red, not pink. It also did not sparkle when it emerged from its Poké Ball. It's just an anime recolor that just happened to look like the shiny form. -- | :To Dman dustin, I brought up Gligar as an example of how the anime changes the color of Pokémon. Besides, Toxicroak in the anime had differences from the shiny form. It has a much more tourquoise tone and the sack under its chin was red, not pink. It also did not sparkle when it emerged from its Poké Ball. It's just an anime recolor that just happened to look like the shiny form. --{{ani|048}}'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''{{ani|183}}'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''{{ani|123}} 05:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
The bright part (not covered in shadows, but not the brightest part) is actually dark pink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink as shown in that link. When something is covered in darkness it's color is often indistinguishable, like dark blue and people confuse it with black. Judge the color that's not covered in shadows, as that gives the best detail And it was dark the whole time Toxicroak was out so it's colors seem darker. But I bet when the sun is out. Toxicroak would look like its shiny form 100%. Whether that's to say it is a shiny in regards to the anime is still up for debate. And I also realize the point in bringing up Gligar, but again, its not the same case with Toxicroak, which is why I said Gligar's shiny form is blue. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 06:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | The bright part (not covered in shadows, but not the brightest part) is actually dark pink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink as shown in that link. When something is covered in darkness it's color is often indistinguishable, like dark blue and people confuse it with black. Judge the color that's not covered in shadows, as that gives the best detail And it was dark the whole time Toxicroak was out so it's colors seem darker. But I bet when the sun is out. Toxicroak would look like its shiny form 100%. Whether that's to say it is a shiny in regards to the anime is still up for debate. And I also realize the point in bringing up Gligar, but again, its not the same case with Toxicroak, which is why I said Gligar's shiny form is blue. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 06:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:All right, I said this before and I will say it again. Don't you think if it was shiny, someone would mention it. But no one said anything about it, not a damn thing. They just treated it as another new Pokémon that they see. Also the anime doesn't always follow the games exactly in every detail. | :All right, I said this before and I will say it again. Don't you think if it was shiny, someone would mention it. But no one said anything about it, not a damn thing. They just treated it as another new Pokémon that they see. Also the anime doesn't always follow the games exactly in every detail. {{ani|448}}[[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]]{{ani|447}}[[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]]{{ani|448}} 08:09, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::In other words: SAY IT IS SPECULATED TO BE SHINY!!! IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SHINY U ASSES!!! {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|11:51 8 Mar 2008}}}''' | ::In other words: SAY IT IS SPECULATED TO BE SHINY!!! IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SHINY U ASSES!!! {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|11:51 8 Mar 2008}}}''' | ||
== Protection request... == | == Protection request... == | ||
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DocDoak, 19:45, 7 March 2008 | DocDoak, 19:45, 7 March 2008 | ||
Way too much protection on Bulbapedia, methinks. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] | Way too much protection on Bulbapedia, methinks. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]]{{ani|202MS.gif|32px]] 04:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Ya got that right Glinn. Btw, TOXICROAK AIN'T SHINY. WATCH THE EPISODE AND LOOK[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 04:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | Ya got that right Glinn. Btw, TOXICROAK AIN'T SHINY. WATCH THE EPISODE AND LOOK[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 04:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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I'm always right. :P | I'm always right. :P | ||
Amazing, you managed to turn this section into part of the debate as well! Oh well. No matter. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] | Amazing, you managed to turn this section into part of the debate as well! Oh well. No matter. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]]{{ani|202MS.gif|32px]] 06:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Blah...[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 13:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | Blah...[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 13:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Besides, since it's a known fact that Croagunk doesn't change its colors when it evolves, it's pretty much certain that the anime considers either Saturn's Toxicroak or Brock's Croagunk to be alternate coloration. And I'm certain fans would revolt if it's revealed the former is considered the normal color...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | Besides, since it's a known fact that Croagunk doesn't change its colors when it evolves, it's pretty much certain that the anime considers either Saturn's Toxicroak or Brock's Croagunk to be alternate coloration. And I'm certain fans would revolt if it's revealed the former is considered the normal color...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Probably, or it could just be the anime coloring. Then again, it probably is an alternate color[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 17:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | :Probably, or it could just be the anime coloring. Then again, it probably is an alternate color[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 17:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Why can't we say that it is speculated to be shiny rather than saying for sure it's shiny or not? What if one of them turns out to be wrong? | ::Why can't we say that it is speculated to be shiny rather than saying for sure it's shiny or not? What if one of them turns out to be wrong? {{ani|448}}[[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]]{{ani|447}}[[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]]{{ani|448}} 18:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Exactly, that's what I want. But Theryguy512 keeps insisting that it is a shiny[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 18:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | :::Exactly, that's what I want. But Theryguy512 keeps insisting that it is a shiny[[User:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF0000>Po</font><font color=#FFFF00>ke</font>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<font color=#00FF00>Ma</font><font color=#00FFFF>ni</font><font color=#0000FF>ac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<font color=#FF00FF>102</font>]] 18:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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I find it funny that people assume Saturn's Toxicroak is just a brightened version of it's game coloring when in fact it isn't. Had Toxicroak been Sky Blue (like the TCG Toxicroak) we wouldn't be debating this. The only way Toxicroak could look like the one shown in anime is to add another color and I mean green/yellow. Sky blue would just be a different tint of Toxicroak's normal coloring. -sigh- Sometimes I wish Toxicroak had been all red, or black in the anime. And for know I like what it says on the Toxicroak page (assuming no one edits it while I'm writing this). And I hope it stays until we have absolutely know what Saturn's Toxicroak is in relation to the anime (shiny or normal coloration). --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 01:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC) | I find it funny that people assume Saturn's Toxicroak is just a brightened version of it's game coloring when in fact it isn't. Had Toxicroak been Sky Blue (like the TCG Toxicroak) we wouldn't be debating this. The only way Toxicroak could look like the one shown in anime is to add another color and I mean green/yellow. Sky blue would just be a different tint of Toxicroak's normal coloring. -sigh- Sometimes I wish Toxicroak had been all red, or black in the anime. And for know I like what it says on the Toxicroak page (assuming no one edits it while I'm writing this). And I hope it stays until we have absolutely know what Saturn's Toxicroak is in relation to the anime (shiny or normal coloration). --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 01:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Does everyone remember Purple Kecleon? :) [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] | Does everyone remember Purple Kecleon? :) [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]]{{ani|202MS.gif|32px]] 03:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
Aug. Don't even start. It is the same color as the shiny sprite so it speculated to be shiny. | Aug. Don't even start. It is the same color as the shiny sprite so it speculated to be shiny. | ||
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WE SAY IT IS SPECULATED TO BE SHINY AND THAT'S FINAL! -grrr- {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|07:44 12 Mar 2008}}}''' | WE SAY IT IS SPECULATED TO BE SHINY AND THAT'S FINAL! -grrr- {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|07:44 12 Mar 2008}}}''' | ||
No-one had said anything for 3 days... The article is fine how it is. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] | No-one had said anything for 3 days... The article is fine how it is. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]]{{ani|202MS.gif|32px]] 09:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Good, and let's keep it that way. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|10:19 12 Mar 2008}}}''' | :Good, and let's keep it that way. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|10:19 12 Mar 2008}}}''' | ||