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:::Well, I pretty much broke my unspoken rule about never participating in talk page discussions, but I feel I'm enough of a Star Wars geek to merit that. I'd like to point out several things. First of all, the sentence comparing Ash with Luke Skywalker is misleading and inaccurate. Luke was NOT the only one in the original trilogy who could use the Force. (Darth Vader, anyone? Not to mention Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Yoda, and <s>Leia.</s>) Now if it turned out that Cyrus could control aura and then he revealed himself as Ash's father...then yeah, the comparison between the two would gain much more credibility. Furthermore, to me it seems like aura is more related to ki/chakra in both form and function than to the Force. Also, note the background of the people who created the aura concept. While I'm not saying that they've never heard of Star Wars, given the creators' propensity for references to Eastern culture, it's definitely not a stretch at all to say they based aura off of the Eastern idea of ki, while it is somewhat further of a stretch to assume that they at least initially based it off of the Force. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Inspiration section of the article seems like it was written on the assumption that the creators/writers got their main inspiration from a movie and then as a secondary source used a traditional concept from their culture of origin. (In fact, I'm pretty sure Lucas himself based aspects of the Force off of ki.) I feel like it should be re-written with heavier emphasis on ki and a small blurb at the end about the Force (because in light of things such as the Aura Guardians and "the aura is with me", it's entirely possible that they did at least have some influence from SW). Also, is "the aura is with me" a dub phrase, or is it directly translated from the original? If it's not the original phrasing, I suggest someone do some digging and find the original Japanese, because it's entirely possible that the dub writers decided to consciously use a phrase similar to the classic SW phrase, as it would definitely not be the first time they've work in popular culture references. I'm sorry this was so long; free cookies for whoever read this far. If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and change it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC) | :::Well, I pretty much broke my unspoken rule about never participating in talk page discussions, but I feel I'm enough of a Star Wars geek to merit that. I'd like to point out several things. First of all, the sentence comparing Ash with Luke Skywalker is misleading and inaccurate. Luke was NOT the only one in the original trilogy who could use the Force. (Darth Vader, anyone? Not to mention Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Yoda, and <s>Leia.</s>) Now if it turned out that Cyrus could control aura and then he revealed himself as Ash's father...then yeah, the comparison between the two would gain much more credibility. Furthermore, to me it seems like aura is more related to ki/chakra in both form and function than to the Force. Also, note the background of the people who created the aura concept. While I'm not saying that they've never heard of Star Wars, given the creators' propensity for references to Eastern culture, it's definitely not a stretch at all to say they based aura off of the Eastern idea of ki, while it is somewhat further of a stretch to assume that they at least initially based it off of the Force. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Inspiration section of the article seems like it was written on the assumption that the creators/writers got their main inspiration from a movie and then as a secondary source used a traditional concept from their culture of origin. (In fact, I'm pretty sure Lucas himself based aspects of the Force off of ki.) I feel like it should be re-written with heavier emphasis on ki and a small blurb at the end about the Force (because in light of things such as the Aura Guardians and "the aura is with me", it's entirely possible that they did at least have some influence from SW). Also, is "the aura is with me" a dub phrase, or is it directly translated from the original? If it's not the original phrasing, I suggest someone do some digging and find the original Japanese, because it's entirely possible that the dub writers decided to consciously use a phrase similar to the classic SW phrase, as it would definitely not be the first time they've work in popular culture references. I'm sorry this was so long; free cookies for whoever read this far. If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and change it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, Lucas didn't invent the force himself, and that there might be the possibility that Lucas and Pokemon based their idea of a similar concept coincidentally off of a shared idea? For reference, Lucas admitted to basing his concept of "the Force" off of this short film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-87 . With that in mind, I really don't see how hard it is for someone to dig into 21-87's history and figure out where the original concept here was based off of, especially considering that "the force" is referred to as God or a god in the film. [[User:Crenel|Crenel]] 06:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
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