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→‎Reunite this with Pokémon UNITE: new post, disagreeing with how this split was done and what should be a part of it.

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 :I see you requested this information to be merged back from "Unite Battle" into "Pokémon UNITE" and the information to be on both pages. So maybe we can do it like this if you agree: I am doing what you said, I already reverted my edit and merged the Unite Battle information back into "Pokémon UNITE". However, I also created a request to eventually remove some of the Unite Battle information from "Pokémon UNITE" when possible, as I don't think that all the Unite Battle game mechanics and details should really be completely repeated on both the "Unite Battle" and "Pokémon UNITE" pages.
 :You mentioned [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], [[PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure]], and [[PokéPark 2: Wonders Beyond]]. They have a small list of locations, but they don't have in-depth information about those locations, which is instead found on [[Colosseum (Pokétopia)]], [[PokéPark (game)]], and the specific location pages. They have some information about battle mechanics, but not nearly so much as the detailed content about Unite Battles currently on the [[Pokémon UNITE]] article. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
+::I respectfully disagree. Put simply, the ways Unite Battles work are irrevocably tied to UNITE's gameplay, such that it really does have to be on UNITE's page. The Quick Chat system  The "Unite Battle" page should be largely system agnostic.
+::Let's think about how people wind up on "Unite Battle". Presumably it's either from "Pokémon battle", "Aeos Island", "Challenge the World", the non-existent "Unite Battle Committee", the non-existent "Aeos energy", from a character page ("Eribe", "Phorus", "Zirco"), or from many of the manga pages. I do not think people coming from any of these pages need to know how UNITE's matchmaking in Ranked works, but that's what on the page. Ranked matchmaking is very definitely a set of game mechanics. (matchmaking in general, really.) Similarly, what does CPU Match and Random Match mean without the context of this being a game? In my opinion, very little, which is why it should only be on "UNITE"'s page. I also don't think Quick Chat's messages are all that relevant on "Unite Battle" but are to "Pokémon UNITE"
+::Unite Battles are core to Pokémon Unite's gameplay loop. Trying to describe other parts of the game, such as why you want to get Aeos energy rewards and Aeos coins and Aeos tickets is difficult when it can't get worked back into, "and those things go back into the battle sequence you just read about"
+::I think trying to shortcut creating a "Unite Battle" page by hacking off critical game information from the page about the game is the wrong way to approach this. On top of moving information that has to be on the game page, it results in a wonky article which doesn't have the context for the game mechanics. (The person who wrote Battle Modes clearly thought the Gameplay section would be above it. Its rather unhelpful to read it without Gameplay also being on the page)  I think it should be backward filled from the template of the "Pokémon battle" page, except with UNITE mechanics instead of core series mechanics. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 17:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)