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::::Not really. But your argument does boil down to {{wp|Wikipedia:cherrypicking}}. (I can be just as snarky as you :) ) --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 17:09, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ::::Not really. But your argument does boil down to {{wp|Wikipedia:cherrypicking}}. (I can be just as snarky as you :) ) --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 17:09, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::Basically, you are reading into the official use of the term what doesn't exist, and your self-assured examples last night proved this. "PLA says a Shiny Ponyta is blue" does not say, for example, "PLA says a green Ponyta is not Shiny." Likewise, while an official source will say "Shiny Butterfree is purple with green eyes," you cannot read into it that it says "A pink Butterfree is not Shiny." These are things we go through in elementary school. ''(e.g. "All people named Sally are girls," does not mean "all girls are named Sally.")'' You can cite all these fallacies and this and that and the other that you want, but it's not going to change the fact that you're failing at a basic logic problem. The fandom definition of "Shiny" is unnecessarily more stringent than the official definition of "Shiny", which has never said what you are claiming it says. --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 17:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ::::Basically, you are reading into the official use of the term what doesn't exist, and your self-assured examples last night proved this. "PLA says a Shiny Ponyta is blue" does not say, for example, "PLA says a green Ponyta is not Shiny." Likewise, while an official source will say "Shiny Butterfree is purple with green eyes," you cannot read into it that it says "A pink Butterfree is not Shiny." These are things we go through in elementary school. ''(e.g. "All people named Sally are girls," does not mean "all girls are named Sally.")'' You can cite all these fallacies and this and that and the other that you want, but it's not going to change the fact that you're failing at a basic logic problem. The fandom definition of "Shiny" is unnecessarily more stringent than the official definition of "Shiny", which has never said what you are claiming it says. --[[User:INTERNETFRIEND|INTERNETFRIEND]] ([[User talk:INTERNETFRIEND|talk]]) 17:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::Going by the English games (because we are an English wiki), the only thing you can say about Shinies is that all Pokemon called Shiny have matched the have colorations. Can you show me where a Pokemon of different colors was called Shiny? | :::::Going by the English games (because we are an English wiki), the only thing you can say about Shinies is that all Pokemon called Shiny have matched the <s>have</s> game colorations. Can you show me where a Pokemon of different colors was called Shiny? | ||
:::::It's all well and good to say that they never said Shinies ''can't'' have other colors, or that Japanese or other terms are broader. But as far as ''English'' goes, you need to show a concrete example that "Shiny" is intended to be broader. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | :::::It's all well and good to say that they never said Shinies ''can't'' have other colors, or that Japanese or other terms are broader. But as far as ''English'' goes, you need to show a concrete example that "Shiny" is intended to be broader. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC) | ||