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 ::::Eg  psychic arceus's default type is psychic and bug silvally's bug. If you're saying about not default because it's holding an item or something then surely eg Zacian and Zamazenta's alternate forms shouldn't be included either [[User:Monkey2371|Monkey2371]] ([[User talk:Monkey2371|talk]]) 05:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 :::::Zacian and Zamazenta are pure types in their normal forms but dual types in their hero form, so it counts as it is still their typing by default. Arceus's type by default (with no plate) is normal, as is Silvally's.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#44BAE5">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#85D2EE">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DA7D99">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#E7ABBD">ire</span>]] 02:18, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
+::::::Your distinction is completely arbitrary though. You haven't at all explained what counts as "default" and/or why forms that aren't default (only for Arceus and Silvally) should be excluded from the list. Based on [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Arceus]], [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Silvally]], [[Arceus (Pokémon)#Forms]] and [[Silvally (Pokémon)#Forms]], their other types are inarguably completely separate and full forms of their own, and as the article says "For the purposes of this list, each form with a different type than another of the same Pokémon's forms counts as a different Pokémon", and thus those forms should be included. Those forms themselves have their default type which matches what the form is: Water-form Arceus's default type is Water; Grass-form Silvally's default type is Grass, etc. There is no reason for them to be excluded, and the list is incomplete without them. Per your "Arceus's type by default (with no plate) is normal", why does having no plate matter? As I said before Zacian also requires an item to change its form just as Arceus does, yet its other form counts just as it should. If Arceus and Silvally's normal form is somehow more default than all their other forms and they should be excluded for that reason, then I'd say for certain that Castform's normal form is absolutely more default than its other forms, yet Castform's other forms are also included just as they should be. There is no consistency in excluding Arceus and Silvally. Under the last table, it says these two are excluded "For convenience". Whose convenience? I'd argue not the reader as they aren't getting the complete picture. [[User:Monkey2371|Monkey2371]] ([[User talk:Monkey2371|talk]]) 00:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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