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::::Virgil is Ash's rival, his goal in the League was to even face Ash (there's even a scene of him saying that). Now why the anime writers didn't do this so I have no idea. He deserves to be in the rivals section. I even think he and Stephan are the best characters in this Unova League arc.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | ::::Virgil is Ash's rival, his goal in the League was to even face Ash (there's even a scene of him saying that). Now why the anime writers didn't do this so I have no idea. He deserves to be in the rivals section. I even think he and Stephan are the best characters in this Unova League arc.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::::Not battling Ash is strange, but I'm not trying to argue against Virgil being a rival. Does anything qualify Tobias as one? --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | :::::Not battling Ash is strange, but I'm not trying to argue against Virgil being a rival. Does anything qualify Tobias as one? --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::::@Hikaru Wazana: | |||
::::::"''Virgil is Ash's rival, his goal in the League was to even face Ash (there's even a scene of him saying that). Now why the anime writers didn't do this so I have no idea. He deserves to be in the rivals section.''" | |||
::::::Casey clearly had a competitive relationship with Ash in the Johto saga (moreso than Virgil, since Casey actually battled against Ash twice and also competed against him in the Bug-Catching Contest), with the final opening also making it seem like she would be one of Ash's rivals in the Silver Conference... and then she didn't appear during the League at all. | |||
::::::The same idea of "Why did the anime writers do this?" also applies to her as well, and it's basically the entire reason why she isn't listed as a rival at all. | |||
::::::While Virgil is not the exact same case (since he '''did''' compete in the League), the fact that he never battled Ash at all is grounds for at least contesting him being listed in the "Rivals" section. | |||
::::::"''I even think he and Stephan are the best characters in this Unova League arc.''" | |||
::::::I'm not sure what correlation that has to what I said. A supposedly well-written character isn't necessarily a "rival". | |||
::::::@Rahl: | |||
::::::"''Not battling Ash is strange, but I'm not trying to argue against Virgil being a rival. Does anything qualify Tobias as one?''" | |||
::::::I'm the one arguing against Virgil being a rival, hence why I brought him up. Tobias at least battled against Ash (and he and his Darkrai did still appear a few times prior to his battle with Ash, unlike Katie). | |||
::::::I don't mind whether Tobias is removed or not, but I think Virgil should be considered as well if it does happen. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 14:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
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