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::::::Additionally, I don't see how him being called an Elite Four member is somehow a "reference" to Let's Go as you two are claiming. His outfit introduced in JN012 is his HGSS outfit and his dialogue is based off of his Champion dialogue from HGSS! These are very clear and objective references, unlike simply saying "he's an Elite Four member". [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 17:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC) | ::::::Additionally, I don't see how him being called an Elite Four member is somehow a "reference" to Let's Go as you two are claiming. His outfit introduced in JN012 is his HGSS outfit and his dialogue is based off of his Champion dialogue from HGSS! These are very clear and objective references, unlike simply saying "he's an Elite Four member". [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 17:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
:PokemonMasterJamal3, I think your argument makes sense if this was happening in the original series when the rules were still loose and being defined. But by now I think the anime knows what it is doing and, if they said he is E4, they likely mean only E4. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:41, 5 May 2022 (UTC) | :PokemonMasterJamal3, I think your argument makes sense if this was happening in the original series when the rules were still loose and being defined. But by now I think the anime knows what it is doing and, if they said he is E4, they likely mean only E4. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:41, 5 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
::I'm still extremely doubtful on that. The whole thing with Kanto/Johto is still extremely murky even decades later, since it's the only League to be shared across two regions in the games, as well as the only League already established that did not have a proper Champion at the beginning of its first game. Even if Lance was established as Champion in his first appearance, the Elite Four in the anime was clearly based off the Kanto games (and Agatha appearing in Advanced Generation further highlights this). As I already stated, Lance's outfit and dialogue are also both based off of HGSS (a game that he was Champion in). There's nothing that explicitly references Let's Go. | |||
::In my edits, I'm still keeping that he's referred to as an Elite Four member and I'm not trying to assert in them that he's still definitely the Champion. I just view anything after that as speculation. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 17:59, 5 May 2022 (UTC) | |||