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::Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying either of those alternatives ''is'' true, I'm not saying that either one of them ''would'' be worthy of being treated as absolute fact where this isn't, and I'm not trying to ''dis''prove your fan theory. What I AM saying is that ''none of them'' are absolute fact. What you seem to think is the only explanation is actually a complete assumption, backed up by no more evidence than either of the alternatives I've raised, which means it's ''not confirmed.'' You can keep subscribing to the theory that it dies if its tail goes out if you want, but that you subscribe to a theory does not make it canon. It hasn't been proven ''nearly'' well enough that it deserves to be brought up not only ''in spite'' but ''because'' of a scene in the movie that contradicts it. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 19:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC) | ::Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying either of those alternatives ''is'' true, I'm not saying that either one of them ''would'' be worthy of being treated as absolute fact where this isn't, and I'm not trying to ''dis''prove your fan theory. What I AM saying is that ''none of them'' are absolute fact. What you seem to think is the only explanation is actually a complete assumption, backed up by no more evidence than either of the alternatives I've raised, which means it's ''not confirmed.'' You can keep subscribing to the theory that it dies if its tail goes out if you want, but that you subscribe to a theory does not make it canon. It hasn't been proven ''nearly'' well enough that it deserves to be brought up not only ''in spite'' but ''because'' of a scene in the movie that contradicts it. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 19:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
:::Regardless of it not being explicitly stated, the episode clearly put heavy focus on its tail and how it is related to its well being. Sure it wasn't confirmed that it would have died, but it was at least hinted that it was important to keep the flame lit.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC) | :::Regardless of it not being explicitly stated, the episode clearly put heavy focus on its tail and how it is related to its well being. Sure it wasn't confirmed that it would have died, but it was at least hinted that it was important to keep the flame lit.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
::::So say "despite hints that it is important to keep Charizard's flame lit," not "despite numerous mentions that Charizard and its pre-evolved forms will die if the flame on their tail goes out." | |||
::::Or, again, don't include it at all, because it's just ridiculous to take "it was at least hinted that it was important" to be worthy of pitting against ''explicit'' demonstration that it ''does not'' die as though there's a contradiction. There are, as I said, other ways of interpreting the significance of the tail - speculation based on being "at least hinted that it was important" would absolutely not fly on any other page, and it ''especially'' wouldn't merit being pointed out ''because'' it's a direct contradiction with a scene ''dis''proving it, so why are you acting like it's good enough here? | |||
::::Your evidence is ''undeniably flimsy'' and does nothing to justify the trivia point you're trying to add. I would be hesitant enough to make a claim like that at all with so many other interpretations of the "evidence," but going out of your way to include it ''as an internal inconsistency'' and not even just as something that had yet to be disproven demands more than for it to have been "at least hinted that it was important." [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 22:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC) | |||