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 :::::::I thought Winking Granbull and Winking Snubbull might be related, too, but noticed upon review that they're way back in Pedra Valley (Granbull is 184), and I know I have that area 100% save maybe the odd S rank. So that's not it.
 :::::::I'll give a review of all of the new data added. I'm curious how I got to 15 missing. I know Minior, Kommo-o, Hakamo-o, Jangmo-o, Bewear (not Stufful yet), Toxapex (not Mareanie, out next week), Shiinotic (Safari), Morelull (Safari), Ribombee, Cutiefly (another Safari), Necrozma (hated this stage), Palossand, and Sandygast (Safari again!) add up to 13. I agree that Hoppip and Skiploom, as winkers, would make 15 for me, but Jumpluff makes it 16. I do recall data being added leaving numbers skipped at points, so the question is where this rollback went to. I didn't think of checking my Dex before checking in to 1.5.1 myself, so I can only make an educated guess myself. Based on my count, however, it's possible Dhelmise was there already (October 24) and Palossand, being the oldest on my list of 16 (October 31) was also there, bringing us to October 31 version being where 1.5.0 rolled back to. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7bcu79/manectric_safari_and_typelimited_competition/?st=jcazrxo6&sh=3084ded6 November 7] at Reddit lists no Dex new content added to the game, meaning that was still based on the October 31 version. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7ctsza/weekly_update_11142017_necrozma_rayquaza_eb_and/?st=jcazu1kt&sh=33ea9962 November 14] put in Necrozma. I would suggest that's our backup point.that's our backup point from which 1.5.1 resumed to get the 12 newly added species, and you can go through [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7bcu79/manectric_safari_and_typelimited_competition/?st=jcazrxo6&sh=3084ded6 November 28] to confirm a beefy addition including 5 winkers, Shiny Gardevoir, and a number of new species in my list of 15.
-:::::::Let's complicate things now.  Empoleon was finally actually released [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7jaa28/main_stages_deoxyss_expert_stage_new_rml_mons_new/?st=jcb00ltc&sh=10cfb3c0 see here] on December 12. It doesn't affect me, since I'm not at the point where I can catch it yet (stage 660); however, it might factor into your count if you're there unless the Pokémon itself was in the gae before with placeholder data (in which case the catch might have still registered as placeholder data for those with it). Did you also include Wooper and Quagsire? They were brand new in that update, not even in the data; if you had them caught, they would have been gone in 1.5.0 possibly.
+:::::::Let's complicate things now.
-:::::::Let's add MORE complications.  [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7m7ck2/keldeoresolute_escalation_psbs_kyurem_competition/?st=jcb08tht&sh=7cb09b61 December 26] was another beefy addition, and this is where winking versions of Cherrim and Cherubi first came along. Being in the 500s, I didn't catch these before, but I've caught the new ones.
+:::::::*Empoleon was finally actually released [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7jaa28/main_stages_deoxyss_expert_stage_new_rml_mons_new/?st=jcb00ltc&sh=10cfb3c0 see here] on December 12. It doesn't affect me, since I'm not at the point where I can catch it yet (stage 660); however, it might factor into your count if you're there unless the Pokémon itself was in the gae before with placeholder data (in which case the catch might have still registered as placeholder data for those with it). Did you also include Wooper and Quagsire? They were brand new in that update, not even in the data; if you had them caught, they would have been gone in 1.5.0 possibly.
-:::::::If you've been adding these complications, you'll note the December update gave me nothing different, but the January update adds 2 winkers that might not have been in the 1.5.0 data. Joy! This means I have to assume Necrozma, the oldest of those found in my list, WAS IN THE GAME and counted by 1.5.0, leaving me 16 new species to count instead of 15. Cutiefly, next in the Dex, was in a December 5 Safari, so we have to find something in the list in November, preferably before the 28th. I could harbour a guess that Ribombee on November 28 is that last one to assume already caught. However, Celesteela was in the same update, and had a silhouette before. I'm could assume November 28 did not count.  Celesteela was, however, "added" to the game on November 28th. Does game data exist before then? The threads are not clear, and GS has held numbers for Pokémon before (look at the Sinnoh and Unova starters). If Guzzlord and Celesteela both had silhouettes, and thus RESERVED DATA, before November 28, then that removes 2 from the 16 and forces Necrozma back in. Therefore, I think the answer is that the rollback went to 1.4.30, from November 21. There's one problem. There were no new 'Mons on the 21st to test with. So it might have been 1.4.29 instead, and we'll never know, nor is there any way to figure it out. Therefore, we can say that 1.5.0 didn't count any new species added since 1.4.31 on November 28, and that 1.5.1 readded all affected catch data.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
+:::::::*[https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonShuffle/comments/7m7ck2/keldeoresolute_escalation_psbs_kyurem_competition/?st=jcb08tht&sh=7cb09b61 December 26] was another beefy addition, and this is where winking versions of Cherrim and Cherubi first came along. Being in the 500s, I didn't catch these before, but I've caught the new ones.
+:::::::If you've been adding these complications, you'll note the December update gave me nothing different, but the January update adds 2 winkers that might not have been in the 1.5.0 data. Joy! This means I have to assume Necrozma, the oldest of those found in my list, WAS IN THE GAME and counted by 1.5.0, leaving me 16 new species to count instead of 15. Cutiefly, next in the Dex, was in a December 5 Safari, so we have to find something in the list in November, preferably before the 28th. I could harbour a guess that Ribombee on November 28 is that last one to assume already caught. However, Celesteela was in the same update, and had a silhouette before. I'm could assume November 28 did not count.  Celesteela was, however, "added" to the game on November 28th. Does game data exist before then? The threads are not clear, and GS has held numbers for Pokémon before (look at the Sinnoh and Unova starters). If Guzzlord and Celesteela both had silhouettes, and thus RESERVED DATA, before November 28, then that removes 2 from the 16 and forces Necrozma back in. Therefore, I think the answer is that the rollback went to 1.4.30, from November 21. There's one problem. There were no new 'Mons on the 21st to test with. So it might have been 1.4.29 instead, and we'll never know, nor is there any way to figure it out. Therefore, we can say that 1.5.0 didn't count any new species added since 1.4.29 on November 14, and that 1.5.1 readded all affected catch data.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)