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 I've moved forward with an old secondary project, a Warrior template, at [[User:Drake Clawfang/Sandbox|my sandbox]] (implemented [[User:Drake Clawfang/Sandbox2|here]]). Currently, other than addressing general design concerns from staff members that may come in, the main thing I want to adjust on it is the Links section; ideally, I'd like that clicking on the artwork redirects to the Pokemon's page, and to adjust the evolutionary charts under the artwork to accommodate stand-alone, two-stage, and three-stage evolutionary lines, as well as initial links that are perhaps stage one or stage two, instead of just basic. I'd also like to make all the boxes of uniform height, or at least spaced/stretched to the edges so it looks nicer. However, I've no idea how to do any of that. Would you be willing to take a look? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 17:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
+:Well, lemme start off with a few tips for future reference. '''One''': taking a cue from a lot of other templates on the wiki, the type parameters should really be "type1/2" (or "type/type2") instead of "primary/secondary type". '''Two''': you should usually give parameters some default value, in particular, like <nowiki>{{{type1|unknown}}}</nowiki>; this'll make your "unused" template more readable and understandable (even when you just preview the template), and depending on what you use for those default values it can also make it easy for people to notice if they've forgotten something. '''Three''': if there's some template(s) you want to use inside of yours (like MSP or roundies), you should ''probably'' just copy that template's code instead of actually calling the template (the main exception is colors, particularly when controlled by type parameters); this is because calling one template from inside another is...well, it's just kind of problematic (I'm not actually totally sure how, it's kinda techincal and complicated, but if it happens too much/in too many templates on a page, it can cause problems). '''Bonus''': I'd suggest sticking to the stat colors used in {{template|warlord}} (the main ones at least: Power/Wisdom/Charisma/Total).
+:The image linking is easy. You can just look at {{template|MSP}} which you're already using too (or, even better: [[User:Tiddlywinks/CSP]]).
+:As far as evolutions, looking at a warlord's info like [[Motonari]], it looks like those aren't concerned at all about evolution. I wonder if you should just do something like:
+{|
+|-
+| [[File:123CFS.png]] [[Scyther (Pokémon)|Scyther]]<br>
+[[File:212CFS.png]] [[Scizor (Pokémon)|Scizor]]<br>
+|}
+:instead of prioritizing one for a big picture. (Also, I definitely don't know enough about Conquest to know this myself, but if any of those non-Warlords can have different default Pokemon in different stories (what you're calling "Initial Link", I'm assuming?) like Motonari or [[Muneshige]], then you'll probably have to think up something different than you currently have there too.)
+:The boxes look pretty well laid out to me on the Munenori example. In other words, I don't understand what you want to improve with the heights, so I don't know how to help you there.
+:As a bonus tip, when you first want to make a template, you may not ''actually'' want to try to make a "template" from the start. If you're not real sure what you want (if you have any inkling you might be making lots of adjustments/edits/fixes =P ), then you may just want to start by making an actual, "working" example (like, make that Munenori table), without using any template stuff like parameters; just make a "hard-coded" table (or whatever you may be doing). That way, you can just keep previewing everything and keep trying to make it look good, without ever actually ''having'' to save anything. (You could save if you need to take a break, or you could also just copy it into a text file.) This can also make it real easy to just play around with different parts of your layout. When you're finally pretty sure it's good (maybe test it by changing up your example, like from Munenori to Akizane), ''then'' you can change what you've got so it can work as a template. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)