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::Well, it should be added. Sheer force mentions moves none of the users can use, but are still affected. And what of super fang, etc? [[User:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] ([[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|talk]]) 15:39, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | ::Well, it should be added. Sheer force mentions moves none of the users can use, but are still affected. And what of super fang, etc? [[User:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] ([[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|talk]]) 15:39, 23 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::I don't know if there actually is a way of confirming Super Fang, since it does a fixed amount of damage, though it could be something similar to Heal Pulse with Mega Launcher (75% of the HP in one bite? Sounds overpowered, but ok). [[User:ShadowLugiaEx|ShadowLugiaEx]] ([[User talk:ShadowLugiaEx|talk]]) 01:12, 8 April 2014 (UTC) | :::I don't know if there actually is a way of confirming Super Fang, since it does a fixed amount of damage, though it could be something similar to Heal Pulse with Mega Launcher (75% of the HP in one bite? Sounds overpowered, but ok). [[User:ShadowLugiaEx|ShadowLugiaEx]] ([[User talk:ShadowLugiaEx|talk]]) 01:12, 8 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
== I have a way of proving Strong Jaw would work on Hyper Fang/Bug Bite. == | |||
Okay, there are more than a few ways of proving that Strong Jaw works on Bug Bite/Hyper Fang. I exclude {{m|Super Fang}} since it will merely cut an opponent's HP in half ([[Ghost-type]]s excluded unless {{a|Scrappy}} is present). I will point at least three of these to you. | |||
The OR/AS Method: | |||
1. Capture/Trade over a {{p|Smeargle}} from X/Y onto Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, and make sure it knows the following: {{m|Skill Swap}}, {{m|Bug Bite}} and/or {{m|Hyper Fang}}. | |||
*That, of course, means you're going to need 3 Sketches, and you'd also need to find 3 Pokémon that can learn these moves. | |||
2. Make sure you have a {{p|Tyrunt}}, {{p|Tyrantrum}}, or (in ORAS's case only), Mega {{p|Sharpedo}} out during a Double Battle, as all of these Pokémon have Strong Jaw. | |||
*However, Tyrunt/Tyrantrum can only be traded over from X/Y after reviving a Jaw Fossil; Sharpedo can be obtained through raising a {{p|Carvanha}} to Lv. 30 or can be caught at [[Hoenn Route 118|Route 118]] and [[Hoenn Route 119|Route 119]] by fishing with the [[Super Rod]]. | |||
3. Have the Smeargle use Skill Swap on the Tyrunt, Tyrantrum, or Mega Sharpedo. Smeargle should now have Strong Jaw. | |||
*Before that, however, first use Bug Bite/Hyper Fang on an opponent to use as the "Before" effect. | |||
4. When Smeargle's turn has arrived, have it use Bug Bite and/or Hyper Fang. | |||
*Now, compare it to before Strong Jaw had been traded with Smeargle's {{a|Technician}}, {{a|Own Tempo}}, or {{a|Moody}}. Has Hyper Fang and/or Bug Bite done more damage than before? If so, Strong Jaw does indeed apply to Bug Bite. | |||
The X/Y Method: | |||
1. Like in the first step of the OR/AS Method, you're going to have capture/trade and then train Smeargle to learn 3 Sketches, and find 3 Pokémon with Skill Swap, Bug Bite and/or Hyper Fang. | |||
2. After doing this, you'll need to have a Tyrunt or Tyrantrum with Strong Jaw. | |||
*Obviously, Mega Sharpedo does not yet exist in X/Y. | |||
3. Have Smeargle Skill Swap its' ability with Tyrunt's/Trantrum's Strong Jaw. | |||
*Before that, once again have Smeargle use Bug Bite first for the "before" effect. | |||
4. Once Smeargle has acquired the Strong Jaw ability through Skill Swap, use Bug Bite/Hyper Fang. | |||
*Now, compare the damage to before Smeargle using Skill Swap. | |||
{{p|Venomoth}}/Bug Bite only Method (It's a lot faster in OR/AS, however): | |||
1. Capture/Trade over a Venomoth; it can learn both Skill Swap and Bug Bite. | |||
*For X/Y, Venomoth is found on the Bug-type Friend Safari. | |||
*For OR/AS, Venomoth are found on certain [[Mirage Island]]s, which can be found by Soaring with Mega Latias/Latios. | |||
**However, it can only learn Bug Bite and Skill Swap through breeding Female Venomoth with a male in its' Egg Group that knows both moves in X/Y; for OR/AS, you simply have to tutor Venomoth Bug Bite for 4 BP and Skill Swap for 8 BP, equaling 12 BPs altogether, at the [[Battle Resort]]. | |||
2. Go into a Double Battle, have one of the three Pokémon (Tyrunt, Tyrantrum, or Mega Sharpedo.) right beside Venomoth before starting the Double Battle. | |||
3. After going into Battle, have Venomoth use Bug Bite on the first turn. | |||
*See Step 3's footnotes of the last two methods for why. | |||
4. Then, on the second turn, have Venomoth use Skill Swap on the Pokémon with Strong Jaw. | |||
*On the third turn, assuming it's strong enough to survive, use Bug Bite once more, and see if there is any notable difference in damage. | |||
There you have it.[[User:IM-T-MAN2|IM-T-MAN2]] ([[User talk:IM-T-MAN2|talk]]) 14:21, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | |||