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It seems there's some conflicting information concerning STAB in each Generation. The Gen IV passage states "Beat Up skips the randomization factor, but does apply same-type attack bonus for Dark-type Pokémon.", while the learn by level up list says "No STAB prior to Gen V". Furthermore, the Gen V passage says "Beat Up now receives STAB from Dark-type users and no longer deals typeless damage." There really seems to be a mix up somewhere in here, and may need some fixing. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 01:04, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems there's some conflicting information concerning STAB in each Generation. The Gen IV passage states "Beat Up skips the randomization factor, but does apply same-type attack bonus for Dark-type Pokémon.", while the learn by level up list says "No STAB prior to Gen V". Furthermore, the Gen V passage says "Beat Up now receives STAB from Dark-type users and no longer deals typeless damage." There really seems to be a mix up somewhere in here, and may need some fixing. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 01:04, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
== "Beat Up ignores changes to stat levels such as Swords Dance" ==
I originally wasn't going to use Beat Up because of this, but I kept it on my Weavile because it's a devastating combo with Razor Fang. Anyway, this is simply not true. When I use Beat Up on Shauntal's Jellicent with my Lv80+ Weavile, it takes about 3-4 hits to KO it with Beat Up, giving each hit a chance to trigger Cursed Body. If I soft reset the game and try it again, with the same Pokemon lineup in my party, but I Swords Dance first, it KOs the Jellicent in 1-2 hits. I even noticed, after using Swords Dance, it double the damage on her Cofagrigus and cut the number of hits needed to KO it in half, as opposed to just opening up with Beat Up.