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(Pertaining to Berry Juice...)
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-I suppose in regards to this little thing, I must wonder if we should keep the Berry Juice for the later gens up anymore, as it seems no one seems to know how you get it.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Tsum}} ([[User talk:Tsum|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tsum|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small>
-I suppose in regards to this little thing, I must wonder if we should keep the Berry Juice for the later gens up anymore, as it seems no one seems to know how you get it.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Tsum}} ([[User talk:Tsum|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tsum|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small>


:I've been attempting to get Shuckle to convert Oran Berry into Berry Juice in Fire Red, but so far no luck. I never heard about it turning into a Rare Candy before today, but in Gen III that's not too important with the introduction of the Pick-up ability. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 03:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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A little aside: I hope so. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
A little aside: I hope so. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]]([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 23:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:I haven't thoroughly tested this, but I suspect Berry Juice creation (at least) is measured similarly to egg cycles.
:Given that:
:*Eggs are the most visible game mechanic that use a different measure of time than the RTC.
:*Eggs and Pokemon use the same general data structure, with the happiness byte being used to count down cycles on unhatched eggs.
:*The number of steps required to increase a Pokemon's happiness stat in Gen II is 512.
:*Since I can't seem to find a number of steps for 1 egg cycle in Gen II, I'm working under the assumption that since the number of steps required for a happiness boost in Gen III is the same as the length of an egg cycle in Gen III, this correlation is likely present in Gen II as well, meaning an egg cycle would also be 512 steps.
:It seems that a Berry is probably converted into Berry Juice whenever Shuckle's happiness stat is increased.
:--[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 03:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


Has anyone actually managed to use a Shuckle to produce Rare Candy? I have tried for a long time with different Shuckle (traded, high leveled, low leveled, high happiness), and all I get is Berry Juice. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 03:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Has anyone actually managed to use a Shuckle to produce Rare Candy? I have tried for a long time with different Shuckle (traded, high leveled, low leveled, high happiness), and all I get is Berry Juice. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 03:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
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I changed the moveset page for gen II, as I noticed that Bide and Wrap were switched for some reason. I have a Shuckle on my team in a Gold version file that I've been working on currently, and it definitely learned Bide at level 28 and knew Wrap when I caught it at level 15. However, it's possible that it may have been switched for Crystal? I don't know. It wasn't noted as such on the page. [[User:Silverlucario|Frezgle]] 03:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I changed the moveset page for gen II, as I noticed that Bide and Wrap were switched for some reason. I have a Shuckle on my team in a Gold version file that I've been working on currently, and it definitely learned Bide at level 28 and knew Wrap when I caught it at level 15. However, it's possible that it may have been switched for Crystal? I don't know. It wasn't noted as such on the page. [[User:Silverlucario|Frezgle]] 03:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, it's the same in Crystal. It might even be a start level move, though I could be wrong on that. It's been quite a while since my bred Shuckle hatched. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 03:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


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