Talk:Effort values: Difference between revisions

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:::::No need to worry about scanning that page anymore, just look at [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/vg_xy_strategy_base_stats-2013-11-20/ this Pokémon.com article]. Most significant quote: "Base stats are not the six Pokémon stats you often see, such as HP, Attack, and Speed—base stats are actually the rate at which those defining stats will increase." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:37, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::No need to worry about scanning that page anymore, just look at [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/vg_xy_strategy_base_stats-2013-11-20/ this Pokémon.com article]. Most significant quote: "Base stats are not the six Pokémon stats you often see, such as HP, Attack, and Speed—base stats are actually the rate at which those defining stats will increase." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:37, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::So... now a Pokémon's base stats are its... base base stats plus its other base stats from Super Training? Meaning that both EVs and base stats have the official name of base stats? They REALLY don't want to make this simple for us. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 14:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::So... now a Pokémon's base stats are its... base base stats plus its other base stats from Super Training? Meaning that both EVs and base stats have the official name of base stats? They REALLY don't want to make this simple for us. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 14:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, I see what you're saying, you're talking about the "Investigate" section. It looks like whoever wrote this Pokémon.com article didn't properly understand the guidebook (since it appears to basically be an attempt to transfer that info). There is one blatant error there to begin with: "In Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Guidebook, base stats are represented by green boxes by each of the six stats." That is simply not the case; the guidebook uses those two boxes only once, and that's to demonstrate what "The strengths of the Pokémon's species" are. It's also why they're labelled "Stat Growth Rates" and not "Base Stats". It's not actually explained what the red is supposed to indicate though (I'd just assumed the red was supposed to show base stats adding to "the strengths of the Pokémon's species"). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)


== Have Effort Ribbon, used stat-reducing berry ==
== Have Effort Ribbon, used stat-reducing berry ==