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Note that Ash doesn't ask which has a ''type'' advantage...<br> | Note that Ash doesn't ask which has a ''type'' advantage...<br> | ||
'''AG132''', ''Arcanine vs Kirlia: Who has the advantage?''<br> | '''AG132''', '''''Arcanine''' vs Kirlia: Who has the advantage?''<br> | ||
"Neither choice is correct based on type match-ups because Fire-type Pokémon and Psychic-type Pokémon have a neutral effect on each other. | "Neither choice is correct based on type match-ups because Fire-type Pokémon and Psychic-type Pokémon have a neutral effect on each other. | ||
Also, this is the first and only Trainer's Choice that has two choices instead of three."<br> | Also, this is the first and only Trainer's Choice that has two choices instead of three."<br> | ||
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Kirlia has rather unremarkable stats, with low HP, Spd, both Atk and Sp.Atk, and both Def and Sp.Def. Arcanine, on the other hand, has notably higher stats in each. While neither has type advantage over the other, Arcanine is clearly correct in that it could deal more damage, resist more damage, and take more damage until being knocked out, as well as attacking first with higher speed. Also to note, Kirlia learns no offensive moves with type advantage over Arcanine (only Rain Dance, a status move); Arcanine learns Bite, a dark move Kirlia is weak to.<br> | Kirlia has rather unremarkable stats, with low HP, Spd, both Atk and Sp.Atk, and both Def and Sp.Def. Arcanine, on the other hand, has notably higher stats in each. While neither has type advantage over the other, Arcanine is clearly correct in that it could deal more damage, resist more damage, and take more damage until being knocked out, as well as attacking first with higher speed. Also to note, Kirlia learns no offensive moves with type advantage over Arcanine (only Rain Dance, a status move); Arcanine learns Bite, a dark move Kirlia is weak to.<br> | ||
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'''AG053''', ''Best to fight Kirlia: Togetic, Combusken, Graveler?''<br> | '''AG053''', ''Best to fight Kirlia: Togetic, '''Combusken''', Graveler?''<br> | ||
"This is incorrect due to the part Fighting-type Combusken's weakness to the Psychic-type Kirlia. None of the choices has an advantage over Kirlia."<br> | "This is incorrect due to the part Fighting-type Combusken's weakness to the Psychic-type Kirlia. None of the choices has an advantage over Kirlia."<br> | ||
A tough call, I can only really say Graveler is best choice between Togetic and Graveler to battle Kirlia, here. Kirlia's psychic attacks are all special, with only 5 TM physical moves - Combusken is weak by type; Graveler has incredibly low Sp.Def. with a base stat of 45; Togetic has a Sp.Def. base stat of 105, meaning it would take the least amount of damage from Kirlia's attacks. However, Kirlia has incredibly low Sp.Atk. with a base of 35, so while Togetic would be able to absorb more hits, Togetic and Graveler have the same HP with a base of 55. Togetic takes until about lvl 50 to start learning offensive moves, and only a handful of TMs are worth having, including Hyper Beam, Return, and Giga Impact. It also has a base Atk of 40, compared to Kirlia's base Def of 35, which is enough for a stat advantage. Graveler, on the other hand, has a base Atk of 95 with great ground/rock moves like Earthquake or Stone Edge, which could double Togetic's damage easily.<br> | A tough call, I can only really say Graveler is best choice between Togetic and Graveler to battle Kirlia, here. Kirlia's psychic attacks are all special, with only 5 TM physical moves - Combusken is weak by type; Graveler has incredibly low Sp.Def. with a base stat of 45; Togetic has a Sp.Def. base stat of 105, meaning it would take the least amount of damage from Kirlia's attacks. However, Kirlia has incredibly low Sp.Atk. with a base of 35, so while Togetic would be able to absorb more hits, Togetic and Graveler have the same HP with a base of 55. Togetic takes until about lvl 50 to start learning offensive moves, and only a handful of TMs are worth having, including Hyper Beam, Return, and Giga Impact. It also has a base Atk of 40, compared to Kirlia's base Def of 35, which is enough for a stat advantage. Graveler, on the other hand, has a base Atk of 95 with great ground/rock moves like Earthquake or Stone Edge, which could double Togetic's damage easily.<br> | ||
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Kinda makes me want to review other ones marked as "incorrect" (except seviper/arbok... really 4kids?) and see if the pokemon they chose really had an unnoticed advantage. --[[User:Kiomadoushi|Kiomadoushi]] ([[User talk:Kiomadoushi|talk]]) 01:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | Kinda makes me want to review other ones marked as "incorrect" (except seviper/arbok... really 4kids?) and see if the pokemon they chose really had an unnoticed advantage. --[[User:Kiomadoushi|Kiomadoushi]] ([[User talk:Kiomadoushi|talk]]) 01:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
<small>Addendum</small><br> | |||
'''AG052''', ''Best to fight Shiftry: Swampert, Taillow, '''Torkoal'''?''<br> | |||
''Taillow, a part Flying-type, would also be a good choice against Shiftry, who is part Grass.''<br> | |||
Taillow has abysmal stats, and likely wouldn't survive the first round. Low defenses (30 each) combined with low attacks (55 and 30) means it's suicide against Shiftry, with high Atk and Sp.Atk. (100 and 90). Razor Leaf for 100% dmg before Taillow could attack. If Taillow attacks first, 30% special with Air Slash, 40% physical with Aerial Ace... Then weak Razor Leaf to knock it out. Once again, it didn't ask for what has type advantage, but which is best to fight it.<br> | |||
I knew looking for more was a good idea... --[[User:Kiomadoushi|Kiomadoushi]] ([[User talk:Kiomadoushi|talk]]) 01:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||