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 ::::Yes, it is inherently superior in all situations on Bulbapedia. If we can use a non-canon term when a canon one exists, we can just name any page anything we want. Anarchy! This is a professional-level wiki, not just any old fansite. We have standards. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 :::::I should point out that this is the first time that they've been referred to in more than just passing on an item description as base stats and, from the sounds of things, this will be the first time that the games themselves go into detail about them. It's something that Game Freak clearly want to start making more available to a wider audience, meaning that this is really the first time that the term has been all that relevant. The fact that there was already a fan meaning for base stats is likely a reason that people didn't make the change before now, though given that the term is clearly going to be used more often from official sources and within the fanbase (newer players), it seems odd to me to not make the change now. Besides, all links to EVs will still redirect to the page, so it shouldn't be nearly as confusing as you're making it out to be. This isn't about being better, it's about being correct. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 01:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
+Hold on. What if they're not referring to EVs? What if they're just referring to base stats and how they can be increased (just like what the descriptions for the Vitamins etc say)? Here's how I see it:
+From the "Understanding Stats" page:
+:"''The rate at which these stats will grow depends on an underlying set of stats called base stats. Each of the six main stats has its own base stat.''"
+That's not talking about EVs, that's talking about base stats. The Super Training page mentions how a Pokemon can increase its base stats (not its stats, but the actual underlying base stats) with Super Training. It does not say something like "with Super Training, a Pokemon can gain certain points called base stats that increase its stats". It simply says that their base stats can be raised, not exactly ''what'' raises them (again, just like the Vitamin descriptions etc).
+From the Effort-o-Meter section on the "Super Training" page:
+:"''Each Pokémon has some stats that will grow more easily than others and some stats that will take more work to raise. The inside (green) part of the Effort-o-Meter graph shows the stat levels relevant to each Pokémon species. The outside (yellow) part of the graph shows the base stat increases that your Pokémon has achieved through Super Training.''"
+The green part is a Pokemon's base stat, and the yellow part is the base stat increases. That is, the yellow part shows how many effort values the Pokemon has gained, it's just not mentioned by name. To sum it up, I think Nintendo is just not using a name for what we know as "Effort Values", they just use the term "base stat increases", '''with "increases" ''being'' the "effort values"'''. I therefore think the term "effort values" should stay and Base Stat not moved. Or, if anything, have Effort Values moved to something like "Base Stat increases". [[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] ([[User talk:Angela-Samshi|talk]]) 01:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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