Talk:Present (move): Difference between revisions

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Someone needs to add that [[Togekiss]] knows this move from Dream World. [[User:Mastergiygas11|Master<span style="color:#AB0100;">Giygas</span>]] 21:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Someone needs to add that [[Togekiss]] knows this move from Dream World. [[User:Mastergiygas11|Master<span style="color:#AB0100;">Giygas</span>]] 21:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
== I don't understand this bit, sorry if I'm being dense... ==
For the generation III description of Present, the information given on this page is as follows:
"Present uses the standard damage formula. Present heals the foe by 1/4 of its max HP, instead of only 80. Move will fail if it would heal Pokémon with full HP."
I understand the bit about the HP, but what I was wanting to find out is how much damage (or power) it will do when it hits the foe, and how often it will do damage compared to how often it will heal. Similar to the information about generation II I guess. But all it says for gen III is "Present uses the standard damage formula." I looked all over the page for a "standard damage formula" but couldn't find one. I tried typing it into the search box but just got directed back to this page. I tried clicking the link "damage formula" in the gen II section but that wasn't helpful either. Am I completely missing something?? Is this supposedly common knowledge?
Anyway I think that to improve this page, either someone should explain what the "standard damage formula" is on the page somewhere or provide a helpful link to it, or just simply explain the information for gen III clearly in a table like the gen II section. Or if it's the same, then it should say that the damage calculation is the same as gen II, but with the following changes: ...
All I wanted to know was whether to teach Present as an egg move for something I was breeding anyway, but I won't bother with the hassle if it's rubbish. "A gift in the form of a bomb. May restore HP." isn't good enough for me to make a decision, I mean if the power varies from 80 to 100 maybe it would be worth it, whereas if the power varies between 40 and 60, then it wouldn't be worth it. I hope someone can explain this for me. Cheers, Emmy
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