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 ::A more logical theory however is that they were unevolved Eevees. There's even some information backing up this:
 ::-Eevees evolve into Eeveelutions of the element they are exposed too (limited to the beasts types) and Ho-oh gave them an "overdose" of those elements by embodying them with these from the events (they are even statwise comparable).
-::-Along with this is the fact that Ecruteak City, the city in which the Brass Tower is located, has ties with the Eeveelutions. Even the Kimono sisters each possess an Eeveelution. This could indicate that the city either already had an abundance of Eevees at the time of the Trio's creation, which would explain why the three Eevees would have wandered into the tower, or it's ties with Eevees came from the destruction of the Brass Tower itself. Meaning that because the Legendary Beasts were created from Eevees, the city folk came to commonly raise Eevees in honor of the beasts. [[User:Roobaby9154|Roobaby9154]] 22:30, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 ::-the other thing is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8t8Ly0hfXY
 ::There are 3 Sages, the protectors of the Tin Tower, in Crystal and they use 1 of just those 3 Eeveelutions in battle. One could assume there have been eeveetrainers, protectors of the Brass Tower once, whose the Eevees that died could have been. --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 09:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 == Dogs or Cats ==
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 ::::I personally only see feline features in Raikou, Suicune is pretty obviously a wolf and Entei a big dog to me. But, that's exactly the reason they're the legendary beasts, because the fandom can't decide on cats or dogs.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
-The beasts, from my perspective at least, are based off of the big cats for various reasons, and could not possibly be dogs for others. To start, Raikou is obviously feline with it's long, sabre-tooth fangs, tiger stripes, claws, whiskers (the blue spikes on his face), almond-shaped cat-like eyes, and muscular tiger body. Some say it resembles a bulldog because of it's jouls, or "cheeks", though this actually makes it resemble a cat even more as many cats have such chubby cheeks, too. Along with this, bulldog's tails are traditionally cropped, which is something not present on Raikou as it possesses a long, lightening bolt tail. It roars, as well as Entei (see the third Pokemon movie) which is a feature unknown to dogs, and Entei's roar in movie is identical to none other than. . . a lion's.
-Entei, while sharing some qualities of a Mastiff (a large dog), is unmistakably a lion. Mastiffs and lions themselves share many features which could be why it causes such confusion. I own a bull mastiff dog, and we named him Leo because of that same fact- he resembles a lion. Continuing along with Entei, it has whiskers, muscular lion build, lion-like fangs, and retractable claws as seen in the anime. No type of dog is able to retract their claws. In Japan, the words bark and roar are the same word, which is why when translated into the Gold Pokedex, is says 'bark' rather than 'roar', another area in which confusion arose from. And no matter how many dog qualities Entei may or may not have, it has a mane, which cancels out any other possibility of being based off of anything but a lion.
-Moving onto Suicune, who seems to raise the most controversy. Most pin Suicune as a wolf because of it's long snout and blue and purple coloring, which is close to gray, a typical wolf coloring. However, a yellow Suicine might highlight the more cheetah/leopard aspects of it, but because it is of the water type, cool colors such as blue, as opposed to warm colors fit in slightly better. Snow leopards have also been proposed as a possible cat for Suicune, which could be very likely. Wolves are unknown to have spots like the diamonds on the side of the beast's body, or such a agile body frame as Suicune. The silhouette of Suicune, as mentioned above me, brings out the lithe shape of a cheetah. Wolves also have a very shaggy, thick coat, (not to be confused with it's purple cape, for that is meant to portray the Aurora Borealis) which isn't present on Suicune. Despite what stats in the game, Suicune is the fastest of the trio, running all over Earth to purify water. Running has always been associated with cheetahs because of their speed. Suicune also is associated with the North Wind, reflecting a popular phrase, "run like the wind." Cheetahs are also cats not known to roar, explaining why it doesn't unlike the other members of the trio.
-Pokemon are often based off of Asian folklore as well (ex. Ninetales/Vulpix and the Kitsune). Suicune has been confirmed to be loosely based off of Fūjin, the god of wind who wears a leopard skin. Fūjin is often associated with Raijin, the god of thunder (whom Raikou is based off of). Raijin's companion, Raijū, was supposedly a legendary creature of Japanese mythology who was composed of lightening and often took the form of a cat and had a roar which sounded like crashing thunder. Meaning that Raijū could be likely the inspiration rather than Raijin himself. And lastly, Entei, who is based off of the Chinese guardian lions.
-Adding to the evidence of the trio stemming from big cats, if the theory of the trio coming from the Eeveelutions is true, it would only make sense that they are based off of cats. The Eeveelutions, while having fox-like qualities, are definitely based off of cats, too. Espeon is unmistakably a cat, along with Leafeon,Vaporeon, and Flareon. While Jolteon, Umbreon, Glaceon, and Eevee are still cats but with more fox-like qualities.
-One more reason to believe they are cats is the fact that all other trios in the game are of the same type of species. The Kanto bird trio, are all. . . well, birds (Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos). The Johto trio, cats (Suicune, Entei, Raikou). The Hoenn trio, golems (Regirock, Registeel, Regiice). And the Sinnoh trio, fairies/pixies (Uxie, Mespirit, Azelf). Why would two be cats, and one be a dog? If you can easily identify one as a certain species, the others must be as well, collectively speaking.
-Another thing often said is the trio can't be cats because cats are too small, which is completely idiotic. "Cat" is used to refer to household cats as well as the big, wild cats, which could easily be a part of the trio. And a lion, tiger, and (snow) leopard (or cheetah) are far mightier and majestic than a stumpy, short bulldog, mastiff, and wolf. Even bulldogs and mastiffs don't quite seem to fit in with a wolf.
-All in all, they are Pokemon. Attributes from both felines and canines could have been used, however it is more safe to say "Legendary Beasts" as some fail to see the logic behind the true basis of the Legendary Trio of Johto. [[User:Roobaby9154|Roobaby9154]] 23:48, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 == Trivia point ==